Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Other than the sort coming here, what groups would be allowed to freely go to another country? Only certain demographics have that freedom.


The European Court of Human Rights has ruled, one more than one occasion, that extradition and deportation matters are administrative matters, and as such there is NO RIGHT to a fair hearing. No hearing, no appeals and so on.

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

We're nothing like Poland, They're an EU country preventing asylum seekers entering (walking into) a country they were promised a warm welcome to.

The reality in 'our' situation is that asylum seekers have to cross dangerous waters to get here, and as has been discussed, we and the French can't legally stop them trying to kill themselves.

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

That assumes our legal system has a 100% success rate on valid decisions. We don't, and nor does any other country in the world.

We have many miscarriages of justice for our own citizens, and if you start removing the rights of non-citizens to appeal a legal decision, then why shouldn't other countries do the same to UK citizens abroad?

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

If being part of the EU was part of a solution, how come they did and still do, reach Calais in the first place? How many other EU countries did they pass through?

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Then I’m sorry , I’m missing the point in your reference to Poland ?

The reality in ‘our’ situation is that only a small amount of the total population of people who are attempting to get another country are coming to the U.K.

Our press are brilliant at blowing up the issue to make it seem as if we’re the worst affected. There are those in this country who will fall for that, hook line and sinker (apologies if that’s a bad turn of phrase considering recent events)

This is an issue that affects the whole of Europe and demands a coordinated response.

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

As many as they liked, as is was their right ;)

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

As the USA have found with their Mexico border, it's not a simple issue to stop people crossing one.

As for the the internal EU question, do you know many people travel from England to Scotland or England to Wales on a daily basis and vice versa?

Even with the best will in the world, land borders are not easy to seal.

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Because as I said we would have had more of an opportunity to return those arriving to France

Doesn’t matter how many EU countries they’ve been through those travelling don’t have to seek refuge in the first safe country. However, there are far far more people who have requested sanctuary in Germany, Spain & France.

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Easier than naval borders, unless your conscience allows you to leave people in the middle of the channel and hope they’re recovered by the French

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Channel migrants: France wants 'serious' talks with UK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59454135

not a very good start then :rolleyes:

oh and:

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

I will consider listening to the French when and only when they accept that they have actively helped immigrants leave by just standing by watching and escorting them into British waters and leaving there. They can point their finger and much as they want but 3 will always point back at them

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

And if we were to take that attitude then we’ll make 0% progress on the issue

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

You’re excelling yourself tonight, with and

and Dancing around what/who you mean, aren’t you?

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Yes, we can’t stop them coming. So when they get here we need to process them very quickly and return unsuccessful ones. So others get the message not to try it on chance as failure will result in you going back to square 1.

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I’m sure there’s many that do, ask Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe how her appeal’s going?

Besides, refusal of admission is not a mis-carriage of “Justice”, they’re not guilty of anything. They just haven’t proven their right to settle here.

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

It's a case of several possibles, ie group comprised of A.N.Other. No specifics needed.

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They don't have an automatic "right" in the first place. Nothing to prove or disprove.

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

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Anyway, enjoy being with your "own kind"…