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1andrew1 12-12-2016 15:19

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by The Yank (Post 35875218)
hope your source is wrong - will be seriously peeved - am already struggling to justify my £150+pm

If it's theone's source that said AMC was arriving on VM this February or that Fox News was arriving this Autmn then I'd be confident it will still be part of XL. :)
I think the BT Sport contract expires in 2018 doesn't it?

denphone 12-12-2016 15:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35875312)
The only thing about BT we know of is an rumour we got weeks ago.

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Long shot but FOX may lower the carriage fee if they take Sky over.

Somehow l doubt it MB.

1andrew1 12-12-2016 15:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35875227)
Come on this is VM i don't think any proof is needed, it has been said many times Sky offered Sky Atlantic to vm and vm wouldn't pay the asking price so Daves theory is absolute cobblers.
Not sure but i think EE tv is mostly app based content but my point to Dave was in a way EE are carrying Sky Atlantic so he can't keep harping on that Sky don't want anyone to have it as the options are there for none SKY customers to access it via nowtv ok still SKY but my point still remains, if SKY were withholding it they wouldn't include it on nowtv.

Having an app for Now TV in SD and no direct deal for wholesale of Sky's channels is somewhat different from a wholesale agreement for Sky Atlantic.

The evidence that Sky's asking price for Sky Atlantic being unviable is that no companies have signed deals with Sky. TalkTalk hasn't. Magnet and Eir in Eire hasn't. And when they were not part of Virgin Media, Smallworld and UPC Ireland hadn't either. So bags of evidence to support megaposter denphone I'm afraid. ;)

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35875317)
Somehow l doubt it MB.

Agreed. Fox will have a big loan to pay off as they are not issuing shares to buy Sky. They will want Sky to be as profitable as possible to help pay the debt off.

theone2k10 12-12-2016 16:05

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35875311)
You have simply no proof of your assertion that Virgin offered diddly squat for Sky Atlantic as l suspect that Sky's sky high carriage fee demands for Sky Atlantic are much nearer the truth.:)

No you said it was cobblers about nowtv being on eetv. Well that's what it looked like to me anyway.
You have no proof either that vm weren't offered it or SKYs carriage fee being too high, oh wait my bad VM said so so it must be true as golden sun shines out of backside VM wouldn't lie now would they?

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35875315)
If it's theone's source that said AMC was arriving on VM this February or that Fox News was arriving this Autmn then I'd be confident it will still be part of XL. :)
I think the BT Sport contract expires in 2018 doesn't it?

Couldn't give a monkies uncle if it does or doesn't stay in XL i'm simply passing on info what i get told maybe i shall not bother in future.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35875323)
Having an app for Now TV in SD and no direct deal for wholesale of Sky's channels is somewhat different from a wholesale agreement for Sky Atlantic.

The evidence that Sky's asking price for Sky Atlantic being unviable is that no companies have signed deals with Sky. TalkTalk hasn't. Magnet and Eir in Eire hasn't. And when they were not part of Virgin Media, Smallworld and UPC Ireland hadn't either. So bags of evidence to support megaposter denphone I'm afraid. ;)

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Agreed. Fox will have a big loan to pay off as they are not issuing shares to buy Sky. They will want Sky to be as profitable as possible to help pay the debt off.

Yes we must believe this as VM wouldn't lie now would they?
TT aren't even relevant i doubt they'll be around much longer the way they're allegedly losing customers.

Media Boy UK 12-12-2016 16:31

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35874851)
In fairness, and as I have said before, it hadn't been testing anywhere on Virgin Media for quite some time (it wasn't in the Network Information Table for any of the individual networks). Its entry had been left behind in the SDT along with a few other ghost entries. The penalty of relying on the SDT for information is that you will often see these ghost entries after the actual tests are removed from the network.

We was just told the name has been removed.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35875317)
Somehow l doubt it MB.

Our own view is if Fox lower the fee that will mean more viewers for the channel than that will mean Fox can ask the ads for more money.

Anyway Fox may even close down that channel anyway and put the shows on other Sky or Fox channels.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35875323)
Agreed. Fox will have a big loan to pay off as they are not issuing shares to buy Sky. They will want Sky to be as profitable as possible to help pay the debt off.

Hate to tell you but Virgin/Liberty Global also have "big loan to pay off" but they are still buying things around the world.

theone2k10 12-12-2016 16:35

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35875342)
We was just told the name has been removed.

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Our own view is if Fox lower the fee that will mean more viewers for the channel than that will mean Fox can ask the ads for more money.

Anyway Fox may even close down that channel anyway and put the shows on other Sky or Fox channels.

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Hate to tell you but Virgin/Liberty Global also have "big loan to pay off" but they are still buying things around the world.

Don't bother trying to explain mate in some eyes vm can do no wrong they are perfect.

denphone 12-12-2016 17:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35875345)
Don't bother trying to explain mate in some eyes vm can do no wrong they are perfect.

No company is perfect that is for sure as sometimes we have to accept companies warts and all despite their faults as for some it is the best option and for others it ain't.

alwaysabear 12-12-2016 17:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35875349)
No company is perfect that is for sure as sometimes we have to accept companies warts and all despite their faults as for some it is the best option and for others it ain't.

For me VM is nothing but another utility Company.

Media Boy UK 12-12-2016 17:38

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Confirmed: Boxnation not coming to XL Pack next year.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/confirmed-vi...ree-boxnation/

denphone 12-12-2016 17:42

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35875360)
Confirmed: Boxnation not coming to XL Pack next year.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/confirmed-vi...ree-boxnation/

l cannot blame them for that as there are many on the XL pack who have no interest in boxing so it would be very unfair on them if they had to subsidise others on the XL pack who like boxing.

richard1960 12-12-2016 17:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35875079)
Sources are saying VM will no longer be including BT Sport in their xl pack or whatever it's called now from late 2017.
This is the first i've heard about this maybe MB knows more?



Update: Asked to comment on recent rumours that the BT Sport channels could be removed from the XL pack next year, the spokesperson added: “That’s definitely not the case. BT Sport will remain part of the pack.”


Shortcut to: http://www.seenit.co.uk/confirmed-vi...ree-boxnation/

1andrew1 12-12-2016 18:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35875342)
Our own view is if Fox lower the fee that will mean more viewers for the channel than that will mean Fox can ask the ads for more money.

Why don't they do that know then if it will get them more revenue?

OLD BOY 12-12-2016 18:27

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35875213)
All of which you can get on many other devices that many people already have, including a 30ish quid Roku stick.


How many TV channels do EE have?

It's all on their website, but I have to say that we should be concerned about the quality, not the quantity, of the channels on offer.

https://broadband.ee.co.uk/ee-tv/ee-tv-channels

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35875227)
Come on this is VM i don't think any proof is needed, it has been said many times Sky offered Sky Atlantic to vm and vm wouldn't pay the asking price so Daves theory is absolute cobblers.

I think proof is needed. If Sky's asking price was far too high, that wouldn't mean that VM was trying to get SA on the cheap. Rather, it would prove that it was making sure its customers were not going to be ripped off.

1andrew1 12-12-2016 18:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35875379)
It's all on their website, but I have to say that we should be concerned about the quality, not the quantity, of the channels on offer.

https://broadband.ee.co.uk/ee-tv/ee-tv-channels[COLOR="Silver"]

The pay-tv channels are all in SD so many people won't see these as quality channels I'm afraid.

jj20x 12-12-2016 18:52

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35875342)
We was just told the name has been removed.

Indeed but that's the point, there is no urgency to remove entries from the SDT, so the name can remain long after tests have ended. Arabic Hafla wasn't in the NIT for any of VM's networks even as far back as August.

My point is that by relying on basic TV scans, which read the SDT, the listings will show inactive services and services which have long since been removed.


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