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1andrew1 11-09-2020 15:45
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And now the Shetland Island Council has voted to explore independence from Scotland. 2020 is getting even stranger!
https://news.sky.com/story/shetland-...tland-12068826

Pierre 11-09-2020 15:50
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36049558)
And now the Shetland Island Council has voted to explore independence from Scotland. 2020 is getting even stranger!
https://news.sky.com/story/shetland-...tland-12068826
I don't know the politics of the Shetlands or whether they are mainly unionist or not, but that looks like a very big shot across the bows of the good ship SNP, which would see the argument about about an oil rich independent Scotland sail away into the sunset.

Sephiroth 11-09-2020 17:32
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36049560)
I don't know the politics of the Shetlands or whether they are mainly unionist or not, but that looks like a very big shot across the bows of the good ship SNP, which would see the argument about about an oil rich independent Scotland sail away into the sunset.
Who taught you to spell?

Mad Max 11-09-2020 17:34
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36049591)
Who taught you to spell?
:D

Pierre 11-09-2020 19:04
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Who taught you to spell?
I’ve already been told off by Kushan for swerving the swear filter.

Sephiroth 11-09-2020 19:32
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I’ve already been told off by Kushan for swerving the swear filter.
No ship! Kush is getting busy these days.

Meanwhile, I'm totally tickled by the Shetland Islands story. Crown dependency seems reasonable. Need to look at their financial standing, though.

Mad Max 11-09-2020 19:44
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36049626)
No ship! Kush is getting busy these days.

Meanwhile, I'm totally tickled by the Shetland Islands story. Crown dependency seems reasonable. Need to look at their financial standing, though.

Very good.....:D

Kushan 11-09-2020 22:06
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I’ve already been told off by Kushan for swerving the swear filter.
Hey I'm just looking out for you! Learn from my mistakes and all that.

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1andrew1 12-09-2020 10:30
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One interesting thing on any timing for a referendum - we have a UK-wide Festival coming up in 2022. (Sometimes termed the Brexit Festival)
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As a UK-wide celebration of our creativity and innovation, the Festival will be designed in collaboration with the devolved administrations to showcase the best of our art, culture, heritage, design and technology sectors.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/2022-festival-update

OLD BOY 12-09-2020 19:03
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That’s okay the 40% of Labour voters who support independence will make up the shortfall.
With the level of SNP support at the last referendum, I don't think Labour supporters count for much in this debate. You are getting desperate now.

1andrew1 12-09-2020 19:30
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With the level of SNP support at the last referendum, I don't think Labour supporters count for much in this debate. You are getting desperate now.
However, the last poll conducted between 2nd and 7th September found 53% were in favour of independence.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...te-yes-2968832

Mad Max 12-09-2020 19:31
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36049752)
However, the last poll conducted between 2nd and 7th September found 53% were in favour of independence.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...te-yes-2968832
Of course, the polls are always correct.

Damien 12-09-2020 21:25
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I think Unionists need to move past trying to block a referendum for much longer and instead focus on when would be optimal time for us to hold it, what the question should be and what the campaign will be. It needs to be better than the last campaign.

The Nationalists would have been planning for it from the moment they lost the last one.

jfman 13-09-2020 00:02
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36049739)
With the level of SNP support at the last referendum, I don't think Labour supporters count for much in this debate. You are getting desperate now.
Quantify this point.

1andrew1 13-09-2020 00:21
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36049787)
I think Unionists need to move past trying to block a referendum for much longer and instead focus on when would be optimal time for us to hold it, what the question should be and what the campaign will be. It needs to be better than the last campaign.

The Nationalists would have been planning for it from the moment they lost the last one.
The question would surely have to be the same as the EU question. The campaign would have to be more than Project Scottish Fear. Preumably it would need to be before the next UK election.


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