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Joedm45 02-05-2011 11:23

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Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35227101)
The channel your watching is always the tuner that will be changed when you change channel. You need to buffer another channel by doing it on the info section of the tuners then when you have the channels buffeting that you want you can use last channel button to change. Otherwise changing channels directly erases the buffer and starts rebuffering on new channel.

Thanks Richard.

As I said, I thought my example was happening a couple of weeks back but not any more.

Looks like I was mistaken, it's not an issue but thanks again for clearing it up.

RobboEdin 02-05-2011 11:24

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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35227111)
Not always ;)

Come on, Carl. We want to understand. Tell us when this doesn't happen.

PS I see you have already updated your post.

Joedm45 02-05-2011 11:27

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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35227111)
Not always, I don't think. Quite often I have changed the channel but found that it has changed tuner as well. Still to find the logic in it :)

So I wasn't imagining it :)

carlwaring 02-05-2011 11:35

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35227113)
We want to understand.

As soon as I understand it, I promise to attempt to explain it. It might be some time :D

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The issue surrounding BBC Click as already been discussed here. However, I thought I'd mention this post over on the TCF, which explains the situation in detail.

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Originally Posted by OzSat (Post 8500100)
The BBC are not providing any advance information for this programme to show what is a new episode or a repeat - or even any details other than a generic synopsis. TiVo has to use that information.

I have gone back through the listings for BBC News for the past month and occasionally a late update for Click with episode details is released - but maybe too late for TiVo to use. But Click is not always shown in all of the time slots - so that is not even a 100% pattern.

The other important thing to remember, is that it being a news channel the programme can be dropped without any notice. But if it has correct weekly data in TiVo and TiVo records the dropped event - it will not automatically record it later,

This is the listings for Click for next week - looking at it how do you work out what the different is between any episode. Is every episode going to be a 30 minute episode (or 15 minutes), which is the NEW episode - and are all the episodes the same edition?

Also, they have programme info for the last edition - but that seems to relate to an episode weeks ago. So is it a repeat from weeks ago or is it an error? It is not flagged as a repeat so is it NEW?

If anybody can come up with a system which will not get complaints of missing episodes - then I'll ask if it can be reviewed.

BBC News

Saturday, May 7, 2011

06.00 Breakfast - The daily early morning news programme. Including Click.
11.30 Click - Guide to the latest gadgets, websites, games and computer industry news.
15.30 Click - Guide to the latest gadgets, websites, games and computer industry news. (Repeat)
20.30 Click - Guide to the latest gadgets, websites, games and computer industry news. (Repeat)
04.30 Click - Guide to the latest gadgets, websites, games and computer industry news. (Repeat)

Sunday, May 8, 2011
07.00 Breakfast - The daily early morning news programme. Including Click.
11.30 Click - Guide to the latest gadgets, websites, games and computer industry news. (Repeat)
15.30 Click - Guide to the latest gadgets, websites, games and computer industry news. (Repeat)
20.30 Click - Guide to the latest gadgets, websites, games and computer industry news. (Repeat)
24.30 Click - Guide to the latest gadgets, websites, games and computer industry news. (Repeat)

Wednesday, May 11, 2011
03.30 Click - Guide to the latest gadgets, websites, games and computer industry news. (Repeat)

Friday, May 13, 2011
01.30 Click - Click explores the future of mobile devices. Plus a new game that can only be played on the London Underground. Includs tech news and Webscape.

Of course, the same goes for any programme that only ever has generic synopses

Andy1 02-05-2011 11:37

Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 2
 
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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35227111)
Not always, I don't think. Quite often I have changed the channel but found that it has changed tuner as well. Still to find the logic in it :)

It will change a different tuner if the one you are watching is carrying out a scheduled recording of that channel

spiderplant 02-05-2011 11:45

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35226962)
As I've recently said over at DS, I agree with the HD-less Suggestion logic.

I suspect there isn't any logic as such at the moment. It is simply recording what other people with similar tastes have thumbed. So if they thumbed the SD versions, that's what you get.

I wonder what happens if you habitually thumb-up HD programmes and thumb-down the SD equivalent?

Joedm45 02-05-2011 11:52

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EPG issues strike again.

Currently on Comedy Central (& HD) my EPG says 'Mike & Molly' and 'Two & a Half Men' is on.

Now, shows not being tagged as new I can handle but the wrong show completely is a major issue

TheDon 02-05-2011 12:03

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35227134)
I suspect there isn't any logic as such at the moment. It is simply recording what other people with similar tastes have thumbed. So if they thumbed the SD versions, that's what you get.

I wonder what happens if you habitually thumb-up HD programmes and thumb-down the SD equivalent?

That's not true because the ratings are stored against the program, not the channel it was aired on.

You can't thumb up the show on an HD channel and then down on SD because once you thumb it up on the HD channel it'll also be thumbed up on the SD channel as well, because Tivo will see it's the exact same show.

carlwaring 02-05-2011 13:06

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Originally Posted by Andy1 (Post 35227129)
It will change a different tuner if the one you are watching is carrying out a scheduled recording of that channel

Of course :rolleyes: But I was meaning when no recordings are taking place.

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This is a weird one!

Even though both eps have the correct (ie not generic) episode synopses, and my SL is set to 'new only', both of this week's showings of "NCIS: LA" on Sky1 have been scheduled to record.

Even more interestingly, the given OAD is 11/05/11; even though the scheduled premier date is actually 08/05/11.

Huh? :confused:

Doz007 02-05-2011 13:15

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http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/02/d...e-dvr-lawsuit/

Hopfully they can spend that money on correct EPG data & HD menus! :D

HDFootyMan 02-05-2011 14:49

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35227144)
That's not true because the ratings are stored against the program, not the channel it was aired on.

You can't thumb up the show on an HD channel and then down on SD because once you thumb it up on the HD channel it'll also be thumbed up on the SD channel as well, because Tivo will see it's the exact same show.

Yep, I gave 2 thumbs up for NCIS on FX, yet NCIS on FX HD also has 2 thumbs up.

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Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35227218)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/02/d...e-dvr-lawsuit/

Hopfully they can spend that money on correct EPG data & HD menus! :D

Should just about be enough money left to get some student to program reminders. :p:

Digital Fanatic 02-05-2011 14:57

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Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35227218)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/02/d...e-dvr-lawsuit/

Hopfully they can spend that money on correct EPG data & HD menus! :D

Very good news for TiVo :cleader:

spiderplant 02-05-2011 15:00

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35227144)
That's not true because the ratings are stored against the program, not the channel it was aired on.

You can't thumb up the show on an HD channel and then down on SD because once you thumb it up on the HD channel it'll also be thumbed up on the SD channel as well, because Tivo will see it's the exact same show.

Yep, good point.

Doz007 02-05-2011 15:12

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35227319)
Very good news for TiVo :cleader:

Definately, I'm sure it will come as a huge relief after years of court battles. :)

What are the chances of the things mentioned in the link below making it to the VM TiVO if they get the go ahead in the US?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/14/t...-tuner-dvr-in/

Digital Fanatic 02-05-2011 15:33

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Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35227332)
Definately, I'm sure it will come as a huge relief after years of court battles. :)

What are the chances of the things mentioned in the link below making it to the VM TiVO if they get the go ahead in the US?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/14/t...-tuner-dvr-in/

I don't know, but VM have said they want the VM TiVo to be close in spec to the US Premier HD, so you never know :)


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