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Jaymoss 26-11-2021 23:18

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36102800)
:tu:

As you seem to understand, the Overton Window doesn’t have a ”Right" or a "Left’"…

(the OP was just a play on words… ;))

You knew what you were doing .....

Carth 26-11-2021 23:18

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Doesn't even have a hinge either ;)

Jaymoss 26-11-2021 23:19

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36102802)
Doesn't even have a hinge either ;)

you know exactly what he meant. There is no misunderstanding here. Hugh should just come clean and admit he was say I am extreme right

Hugh 27-11-2021 00:08

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36102802)
Doesn't even have a hinge either ;)

Would that make it hingeless or unhinged?

1andrew1 27-11-2021 03:08

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36102803)
you know exactly what he meant. There is no misunderstanding here. Hugh should just come clean and admit he was say I am extreme right

The only person who has accused you of being extreme right is your goodself. You're taking offence mate when none was intended.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36102813)
Would that make it hingeless or unhinged?

Was there s Bracket? ;)

Sephiroth 27-11-2021 09:10

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

From www.mackinaw.org


Quote:

The Overton Window is a model for understanding how ideas in society change over time and influence politics. The core concept is that politicians are limited in what policy ideas they can support — they generally only pursue policies that are widely accepted throughout society as legitimate policy options. These policies lie inside the Overton Window. Other policy ideas exist, but politicians risk losing popular support if they champion these ideas. These policies lie outside the Overton Window.
The article provides examples of left/right thinking on an exemplar policy and such thinking is excluded from the Overton Window.



Carth 27-11-2021 10:07

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
It's similar (in a way) to 'thinking outside the box' . . someone comes up with an idea that is outside the recognised and accepted boundaries, everyone else laughs and considers you a nutcase :D

Sometimes it works, but it is generally safer to stay inside the box and 'fit in' with what the majority will accept and go along with.

Jaymoss 27-11-2021 10:38

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36102821)
The only person who has accused you of being extreme right is your goodself. You're taking offence mate when none was intended.

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Was there s Bracket? ;)

Offence was intended. Hugh knows exactly what he did. Do not take me for a fool because Hugh certainly is no fool and his intent was obvious.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36102828)

From www.mackinaw.org




The article provides examples of left/right thinking on an exemplar policy and such thinking is excluded from the Overton Window.



OK. The furthest to the right is labeled as Unthinkable. One step after the label Radical. We all know what radicalised means from the press and terrorism so Hugh saying I am the right hinge puts me past Radical thinking and past Unthinkable thinking so as I have said over and over his intent and insult is clear

Taf 27-11-2021 10:46

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Guess what is annoying residents of the northern coastline of France? Charities aiding migrants with food, clothing, shelter and basic medical needs. If they weren't there, the migrants would have a tougher time of it, and perhaps think twice.

Care4Calais is a UK-based and funded charity, with many UK nationals on the ground in France.

But things are going sour. "Choose Love" is pulling funding.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e-ends-funding

Paul 27-11-2021 13:11

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36102758)
I just do not think someone who should be setting an example as a member of the team should be posting stuff like that. Not a good friendly example to set at all

The Team are perfectly entitled to post their views, and its not your place to question otherwise.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36102848)
Offence was intended. Hugh knows exactly what he did. Do not take me for a fool because Hugh certainly is no fool and his intent was obvious.

Enough, move on or leave, your choice.

ianch99 27-11-2021 16:52

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36102821)
Was there s Bracket? ;)

Andrew, you're showing your age here!

papa smurf 28-11-2021 10:32

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
French authorities auction off smuggling boats almost identical to the dinghy that sank near Calais for £135


The French authorities auctioned off at least seven confiscated small boats on the very day 27 migrants drowned in the Channel.

The Mail on Sunday can reveal that the vessels, including one almost identical to the dinghy that sank near Calais, were sold online last Wednesday for as little as €160 (£135).

Critics questioned the morality of selling the longboats, which are of little use to fishermen or yachtsmen, and fear they will simply end up back in the hands of ruthless people-traffickers.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-boats.html


The online auction of 15 inflatable dinghies and 50 outboard engines recovered at sea by lifeboats, coastguards or the French Navy was approved by France’s Maritime Affairs department.

Hom3r 28-11-2021 10:46

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36102282)
It’s a difficult one, I have sympathy with the French, they’re under no obligation to prevent migrants leaving France.

But then there are photos of French police watching migrants leave and board boats to their deaths.

So no obligation, but a responsibility……….


But they are happy for them to enter illegally as long they are wanting to go to the UK

mrmistoffelees 28-11-2021 10:49

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36103268)
But they are happy for them to enter illegally as long they are wanting to go to the UK

Then why not criticise other countries for allowing them to leave their borders and enter France. I mean I know that would entail lessening the seemingly popular sport of France bashing but still

Jaymoss 28-11-2021 10:59

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36103266)
French authorities auction off smuggling boats almost identical to the dinghy that sank near Calais for £135


The French authorities auctioned off at least seven confiscated small boats on the very day 27 migrants drowned in the Channel.

The Mail on Sunday can reveal that the vessels, including one almost identical to the dinghy that sank near Calais, were sold online last Wednesday for as little as €160 (£135).

Critics questioned the morality of selling the longboats, which are of little use to fishermen or yachtsmen, and fear they will simply end up back in the hands of ruthless people-traffickers.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-boats.html


The online auction of 15 inflatable dinghies and 50 outboard engines recovered at sea by lifeboats, coastguards or the French Navy was approved by France’s Maritime Affairs department.

Just more proof showing the French lack of care on this matter

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36103270)
Then why not criticise other countries for allowing them to leave their borders and enter France. I mean I know that would entail lessening the seemingly popular sport of France bashing but still

It has no relevance to us here as they come to us from France and the French actively help them along


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