Cable Forum - Brexit

The only thing a new PM could change would be to make it a softer Brexit with a Customs Union & consequently FoM. The ERG would vote Nay, but chances are Labour would support it and thus have the majority needed.

The EU have already stated the WA is not up for negotiation. A few tweaks will not materially change the backstop arrangements.

No. That is taking this in completely the wrong direction.

We will most probably land up with an Article 24 situation, described as a 'managed Brexit'. That should persuade the renegade Tories who are concerned with disruption. The DUP will like that, too, because there would be no backstop involved.

Mick	08-06-2019 19:02

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35998379)

Interesting video.

Ah yes, the Robin Tilbrook case that argues that we have already "legally" left the EU. Been aware of this case for some time. Using the same legal argument that Gina Miller made regarding "Legal Powers", that the PM did not have the power to extend Article 50, without an Act of Parliament.

A former Appeals Judge, Sir Richard Aikens has said Mrs May's Article 50 extension was “highly unsatisfactory” and “arguably illegal”.

This would put the Brexit Cat amongst the Remainer Pigeons, if his case holds weight.

It clearly has Westminster spooked, if it's hit the House of Commons Library briefing papers.

papa smurf

08-06-2019 19:20

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35998391)

I just don't see our bent system of justice coming down on the side of brexit if it's proved we have legally left the EU.

1andrew1

08-06-2019 22:19

Re: Brexit

Farage, BoJo know that Tillbrook's case is flawed. Inclusion in papers filed for the House of Commons Library is for historical completeness.
Some more information on the case. https://endthechaos.co.uk/blog/the-t...egal-argument/

ianch99

08-06-2019 22:55

Re: Brexit....update 8th June Brexit Leave Case

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35998378)

Is this post a mistake? There is no explanation on why anyone should click on this link ..

I thought the mods asked for links to be posted with comments. Good to know this request is now relaxed ..

Mick	08-06-2019 23:05

Re: Brexit....update 8th June Brexit Leave Case

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35998399)

I thought the mods asked for links to be posted with comments. Good to know this request is now relaxed ..

You misunderstand the rule, so no it isn’t relaxed. The link is to YouTube. I have told you before, if you have a site query, PM a team member. Do not post off-topic again and that includes replying to this.

1andrew1

08-06-2019 23:06

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35998393)

I just don't see our bent system of justice coming down on the side of brexit if it's proved we have legally left the EU.

Good news is that if you feel this strongly about our justice system, you still have an opportunity to exercise your freedom of movement benefits and see if the grass is greener. ;)

Mick	08-06-2019 23:09

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35998397)

You are not a legal expert, so don’t have the qualification to say if it’s flawed.

1andrew1

09-06-2019 00:46

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35998402)

You are not a legal expert, so don’t have the qualification to say if it’s flawed.

You don't need a legal qualification to sniff out the BS in this case, Mick. ;)

Mick	09-06-2019 08:10

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35998403)

You don't need a legal qualification to sniff out the BS in this case, Mick. ;)

I trust the word of a former appeals judge over your “Arm chair” expertise any day. And as for BS-There has been plenty of whiffs of it from your side since 2016. :rolleyes:

ianch99

09-06-2019 09:29

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35998406)

I trust the word of a former appeals judge over your “Arm chair” expertise any day. And as for BS-There has been plenty of whiffs of it from your side since 2016. :rolleyes:

Talk about straw clutching. This takes it to a new level.

I was researching this Robin Tilbrook character: he is the founder of a sad and slightly sinister party called the English Democrats.

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In its 2016 manifesto, the party proposed a devolved English Parliament,[5] instead of its 2014 suggestion that England should become an independent country.[6] It presents itself as an English equivalent to the Scottish National Party,[7] though the Scottish National Party is generally considered to be a centre-left party, whereas the English Democrats are on the right of the political spectrum.[8] The English Democrats have welcomed defectors from the far-right British National Party into leadership roles and former members of the party have criticised informal links with other far-right organisations, though party leader Robin Tilbrook has stated that party members are expected to pledge their opposition to racism

Just looks a nobody who want his time in the sun jumping on the the Brexit Betrayal narrative.

Angua

09-06-2019 09:37

Re: Brexit....update 8th June Brexit Leave Case

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35998378)

Is this post a mistake? There is no explanation on why anyone should click on this link ..

I will offer this one as an alternative.

Sephiroth

09-06-2019 09:38

Re: Brexit

Sadly, I believe we are. Still lawfully in the EU.