Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35778468)

As is the premise that Gerrard played in poor teams, he played alongside some of the best strikers in the Premiership, Owen, Fowler, Suarez etc. To only manage just over 100 assists with forwards like that must say something. And the original premise was that Gerrard was the best player in the 'Premiership', in fact he saved his best moments for the FA Cup ( v West Ham ) and Champions League in Istanbul.

Apart from a few brief flourishes like last season ( and he blew that ) he can't have done that well in the league or Liverpool would have done better than they have. He is a great player but is a long way from the best ever Premiership player, IMHO of course. ;)

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35778470)

How do you judge assists Jim, final pass before a goal or the defence splitting pass that sets up the opportunity for that pass? He also played with some of the worst strikers the league has ever seen baros diouf Dundee mellor just of the top of my head, I'm sure denphone will be able to add to the list of abysmal strikers

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35778489)

If United do finish 4th (i.e Arsenal don't lose the next two games) will they be in the unseeded part of the draw? Their UEFA coefficient would have taken quite a battering from their absence last year and poor performance the year before. The play-off is difficult even for the seeded teams.

Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35778473)

Well on that point I would wager that Scholes, Fabregas and one or two more would rank higher on the defence splitting pass table.

For what it is worth Shearer would get my vote as the best outfield player in the history of the Premiership.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35778489)

If United do finish 4th (i.e Arsenal don't lose the next two games) will they be in the unseeded part of the draw? Their UEFA coefficient would have taken quite a battering from their absence last year and poor performance the year before. The play-off is difficult even for the seeded teams.

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Problem I found with Gerrard is that he attempted those defence splitting passes a lot more than Fabregas or Scholes would and had a lot of failed attempts. He always struck me as the 'hollywood' type of player going for the ambitious and dramatic when playing with more caution and patience would have been better. The end result is that he conceded the ball far more than should be expected of 'the best midfielder in the league'

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35778433)

We now need 2 points, maybe only 1, to secure automatic qualification for the Champions League. The qualifying teams have become harder recently.

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35778532)

a point will do both teams good on Wednesday ;)

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35778730)

Well make sure you shut the door properly on your way out.:redcard::walk:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32789389

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35778786)

Walcott for Sterling ?

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35778730)

Well make sure you shut the door properly on your way out.:redcard::walk:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32789389

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35778789)

Is he ever fit?.

Originally Posted by Julian (Post 35778790)

Blame his idiot agent.

He's doing the same thing with Berahino.

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35778791)

Have Liverpool got any better realistic picks of players?

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35778791)

Have Liverpool got any better realistic picks of players?