Cable Forum - Coronavirus

For Pneumonia, Sir Tom will be on strong Antibiotics. So taking both the vaccine and certain Antibiotics, may clash and the patient may be at more harm. It’s classed in the medical world as Contraindications.

nomadking

01-02-2021 00:27

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Vaccines are effectively fake infections. If the immune system is being currently stressed by a real infection, you can't stress it even more with a vaccine.

RichardCoulter

01-02-2021 19:38

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Someone predicted earlier that fake vaccine documents would be created if people can't fly etc without proof of having had the vaccine.

According to this evening's BBC news, these are now available online.

Paul	01-02-2021 20:37

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Pity we dont live on the Isle of Man, they have scrapped all lockdown and distancing today.

Pierre

01-02-2021 23:10

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36069031)

Pity we dont live on the Isle of Man, they have scrapped all lockdown and distancing today.

We wouldn’t all fit.

Paul	01-02-2021 23:23

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36069039)

We wouldn’t all fit.

:D

The cases graph is looking better;

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...chmentid=28892

Pierre

01-02-2021 23:56

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I’m an eternal optimist.

We’ll be done by June, and Covid, and all it’s variants, will be wrapped up into the annual flu jab and that’ll be it.

I know over 100,000 people have died, and that is terrible

But the reality is that is 99.2%of people, in the U.K., survive this, and that with vaccines and natural immunity, this will become just part of the annual flu vaccine.

Angua

02-02-2021 07:16

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36068915)

What strikes me as odd, is that Sir Tom would appear not to have had the pneumonia vaccine. A friend had theirs not long after getting their flu jab.

Pierre

02-02-2021 08:45

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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 36069052)

What strikes me as odd, is that Sir Tom would appear not to have had the pneumonia vaccine. A friend had theirs not long after getting their flu jab.

depends what has caused the pneumonia, if it has been caused by a bacterial infection as opposed to viral infection then a vaccine wouldn't help.

Chris

02-02-2021 08:51

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A scathing summary of last week’s Euro-shenanigans, from the BBC of all places.

Sephiroth

02-02-2021 09:02

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Priceless, Chris.

jonbxx

02-02-2021 09:03

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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 36069052)

What strikes me as odd, is that Sir Tom would appear not to have had the pneumonia vaccine. A friend had theirs not long after getting their flu jab.

Pneumonia is a disease symptom rather than a disease in itself. Most cases of pneumonia are bacterial and half of those cases are caused by Streptococcus pneumoniae. It's that bacterium that the vaccine is for but even then, it's only 41% effective so you're kind of riding the odds here.

There's lots of other causes of pneumonia including virus, fungi, combinations of infectious agents and non-infectious causes. Check photos of Tom Moore, he either is or was a smoker by the look of his teeth.

1andrew1

02-02-2021 10:20

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Scientists warned only mandatory hotel quarantine for all travellers to the UK would come close to fully preventing the import of new COVID variants, it has emerged.

The government last week announced plans for UK nationals and residents returning from "red list" countries to be placed in quarantine in government-provided accommodation - such as hotels - for 10 days.

However, this action will stop short of a full closure of the UK's border, or mandatory hotel quarantine for all arrivals, as some had called for.

It has now been revealed that on 21 January, almost a week before the government announced their plans, the government's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) warned that "reactive, geographically targeted" travel bans "cannot be relied upon to stop importation of new variants".

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...rning-12206114

spiderplant

02-02-2021 10:36

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36069039)

We wouldn’t all fit.

They'd certainly have to build a bigger jail
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-eur...f-man-55758764
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-eur...f-man-54360825

tweetiepooh

02-02-2021 10:41

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It's a bit harder for us to quarantine everyone else close borders as New Zealand did (does) because we have so much freight arriving by road/ferry.
Do we have some scheme of driver handover or just bring over the trailer and hook up to UK unit this side? (Would have advantage of no left hand units here but really hard to implement.)

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