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papa smurf 13-12-2024 20:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36187666)
Jesus, have a day off.

The economy was growing in July.

Their disastrous budget has killed growth. You don’t encourage growth by increasing costs to businesses.

I would have thought an “economist” such a as Rachel from Customer Services would have known that?


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https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...#liveblog-body

She “hopes” growth will return………..F’n hopes!

Yeah, we all do, I hope for lots of things, like world peace but for other things I have a plan that I have researched and have decent idea of what the outcome will be if I complete all my tasks satisfactorily.

I think it’s time Labour realise that they’re not in opposition anymore.

14yrs of just commenting on things, and making claims they don’t have to follow through with is long over.
Reading the tealeaves isn't as accurate as it used to be

Mr K 13-12-2024 20:44
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We gave the last Govt 14 years, only fair to give the this Govt the same.
The Brexiteers had their chance at running things. Turns out it was a crap idea sold to us by populists who only had themselves in mind. Who'd have thought?

papa smurf 13-12-2024 20:52
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36187672)
We gave the last Govt 14 years, only fair to give the this Govt the same.
The Brexiteers had their chance at running things. Turns out it was a crap idea sold to us by populists who only had themselves in mind. Who'd have thought?
14 years i wonder what it would be like

Train drivers on £1,000,000 pa
no farms left
no electricity gas or petroleum
interest rates 20%
8 million unemployed
a bridge across the channel to stop the boats
no car plants
no steel plants
no small business
tax at 80%
oh toto we're not in Kansas anymore look what the wicked witch has done

OLD BOY 13-12-2024 21:12
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36187672)
We gave the last Govt 14 years, only fair to give the this Govt the same.
The Brexiteers had their chance at running things. Turns out it was a crap idea sold to us by populists who only had themselves in mind. Who'd have thought?
5 years of this lot will be enough, as you will see.

jfman 14-12-2024 03:02
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Considering your penchant for being out by a decade or two Mr K will sleep easy tonight.

Pierre 14-12-2024 12:47
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36187672)
We gave the last Govt 14 years, only fair to give the this Govt the same.
That’s not how it works

Russ 14-12-2024 12:56
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Agreed. It took the previous shower of shit about 2 years to ruin the economy so that’s a more realistic timescale.

Mr K 14-12-2024 12:56
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36187689)
That’s not how it works
It sort of does work that way:-
1979 to 1997 Tories 18 years
1997 to 2010 Labour 13 years
2010 to 2024 Labour Tories 14 years

We tend to give Govts at least 3 parliaments. Not a few months.

papa smurf 14-12-2024 13:20
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
probably rename London to Starmergrad by then

jfman 14-12-2024 13:58
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36187692)
probably rename London to Starmergrad by then
‘-stan’ surely?

Pierre 14-12-2024 21:16
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36187691)
It sort of does work that way:-
1979 to 1997 Tories 18 years
1997 to 2010 Labour 13 years
2010 to 2024 Labour Tories 14 years

We tend to give Govts at least 3 parliaments. Not a few months.
It depends on how many terms Labour want.

As it stands they’re heading for just one.

Chris 14-12-2024 21:34
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36187691)
It sort of does work that way:-
1979 to 1997 Tories 18 years
1997 to 2010 Labour 13 years
2010 to 2024 Labour Tories 14 years

We tend to give Govts at least 3 parliaments. Not a few months.
The 1970s would like a word.

papa smurf 14-12-2024 21:47
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36187709)
The 1970s would like a word.
That's it, everybody out :soapbox:

Damien 14-12-2024 22:37
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Labour won't get 14 years but then if the Tories get back in they won't either. I think voters are less patient and more volatile now. You need to show progress and even then it might not be enough, after all, Biden is out and their economy grew a lot better than ours over the last five years but it didn't lead to an improvement in living standards fast enough.

6 months is not enough to judge the longer-term success of the government but they won't get another term if 5 years doesn't such enough success that voters can actually feel.

jfman 14-12-2024 23:07
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What’s the difference between the two? Volatile voters would move between opposing positions, not migrate slightly within the centrist consensus.

The 1970s were different because genuinely opposing positions would be put forward.

The voters of that age - and even up to 2008 - would find it laughable voters debating the merits of 0.1% growth vs 0.1% decline.


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