Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 

Correct.

Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 

Freesport HD is currently showing a live La Liga football game that has Watch from start available.

Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 

That is not live tv. It was played yesterday.
This is available in the Premier Sports Catchup App. So as muppetman11 pointed out, the Startover prompt in the live epg just plays it out from the Catchup content, which was and is already available.

Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 

Fair enough. The big 'live' in the bottom right of the picture shouldn't really be there then!

As for the 'Catchup', I don't think that's on the V6, and is subscription content on the 360.

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And the next football match which says it's live in the guide and on screen also has Watch from start available

Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 

OK, a second person who can’t understand STARTOVER IS DIFFERENT AND NEW, despite Ben’s excellent explanation.

Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 

In fairness, if as they're claiming it's just a one button way to access an on demand episode of the same programme (or the BBC 'watch from start') then it's not really a new feature.

If it's available on 'live' programming (no laughing at the back you lot from the linear television thread) or channels where a catch up version of the same episode isn't available then I'll accept it's a new feature.

Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 

It's both - but that depends on the content and the channel.

For live or first broadcast content on supported channels, the behaviour is new and isn't available on TiVo/V6.

Where a channel repeats content and that content is already available via other routes it behaves like a deep link - even where the 'watch from start' version may be time shifted from the specific broadcast on the channel.

But as I asked earlier, what's wrong with that? The end experience is a quick and easy way to 'rewind' the specific thing you're trying to watch without having to worry about where it's coming from.

Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 

Happy to confirm the Porto game is currently live on Freesports and has a 'watch from start' option.

Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 

Yes, it was.
But it was a shortcut taken from the live feed already playing out and available to rewind from the beginning within the Premier Sports catchup app, albeit behind a subscription.
Most if not all the Free Sports channel content, including live in real time or recorded, is available from its parent Premier Sports catchup app, both live and on-demand, behind a subscription wall for premium live content, of which the Porto v Tondell game was.
The 360 Startup is a shortcut prompt to that you straight to that content.

Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 

I honestly do not understand what the point you're trying to make there is.

Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 

My Premier Player app didn't let me return to the start I could only go back about half an hour. Happy to test again this afternoon with the Roma game.

Edit: I subscribe to Premier Sports via Sky and in app on Android I can only go back 16 minutes on all channels.

I've tried to access the Spence fight from overnight and it says it's being catalogued and cannot be watched at this time. I'm assuming (as I don't subscribe via Virgin) that this had a 'watch live' option on 360.

Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 

The fact that "STARTOVER IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND NEW" as has been alluded. Which it is not.
Yes I agree, It is a quick and useful prompt to the functionality via an app or catchup content, no argument.
But BBC iplayer have been doing this for a while now anyway on the V6, and I'm sure even Youview+ were doing it for years from their epg, obviously with lesser premium content.

Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 

I wasn't trying to claim that it was new as a concept or that other apps or TV platforms weren't doing it in some form already. I'm not aware of official Virgin Media communications doing that either:

https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...ing-experience

This thread is specifically about the 360 boxes, and Startover is new to Virgin TV itself as part of 360. It doesn't currently exist on TiVo/V6 outside of iPlayer, and the iPlayer app function isn't integrated into the TiVo EPG.

Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 

Can someone please explain the Watchlist function, specifically why not all shows are able to be added to it? Also, why one episode from one series can be added from one channel, but a different episode from a different series on another channel can not?
Whereas V6 TiVo Bookmarks searched for all available episodes of a particular show across all channels and added them to the list, easily and simple.

Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 

Startup sounds neat, but because it's something that is going to be gimped very rapidly by it missing on a lot of channels due to licensing/greed it's not a replacement for just having your boxes buffers just recording the channels passively.