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Damien 09-07-2018 15:02

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Seems Boris has resigned ...

Finally

ianch99 09-07-2018 15:02

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Seems Boris has resigned ...

Boris Johnson resigns as foreign secretary

denphone 09-07-2018 15:06

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A governing party riven by civil war has just pressed their own self destruct button..

Dave42 09-07-2018 15:10

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A governing party riven by civil war has just pressed their own self destruct button..

exactly and making General Election closer by the day

ianch99 09-07-2018 15:12

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exactly and making General Election closer by the day

And what is Corbyn doing? Fixing the Bus Timetables :dozey:

denphone 09-07-2018 15:15

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And what is Corbyn doing? Fixing the Bus Timetables :dozey:

Shambolic incompetence across the government and the opposition that certainly takes some doing....:td::(

Dave42 09-07-2018 15:18

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And what is Corbyn doing? Fixing the Bus Timetables :dozey:

cant wait for the day Corbyn goes as labour leader

denphone 09-07-2018 15:19

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cant wait for the day Corbyn goes as labour leader

Which might be sooner then you think..

Chris 09-07-2018 15:25

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And what is Corbyn doing?

A spot of weeding on his allotment I’d imagine.

Damien 09-07-2018 15:28

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The Tory MPs might as well trigger their leadership election and let's get it over with. Utter disaster of a government.

Chris 09-07-2018 15:32

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I’m going to stick my neck out and predict that Boris is about to offer Gove a top job in return for his enthusiastic support in a leadership challenge. Look out for a leadership challenge from Boris within the next week or two.

denphone 09-07-2018 15:40

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The Tory MPs might as well trigger their leadership election and let's get it over with. Utter disaster of a government.

Sources are saying even more resignations are possible.

Damien 09-07-2018 15:42

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I’m going to stick my neck out and predict that Boris is about to offer Gove a top job in return for his enthusiastic support in a leadership challenge. Look out for a leadership challenge from Boris within the next week or two.

Has anything in the past couple of years given us reason to believe Gove's view of Boris' incompetence has changed? Not sure, even with Gove's support, Boris would get 153 supporters in the Tory Parliamentary Party either.

RizzyKing 09-07-2018 16:00

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Two down more to follow if May doesn't bin this surrender of an agreement it's all upto her now on how much damage this does.

OLD BOY 09-07-2018 16:07

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I think you are now being revisionist based on where it looks like we will now end up. People voted Leave with a variety of outcomes in mind. Some would welcome Mrs May's 'soft-ish" Brexit although it almost certainly will be made "softer" once it undergoes the to's & fro's of EU negotiations.

The hard Brexit you now seek was never put before the voters by the official Leave campaign:

http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/campaign.html



It is disingenuous to now claim that Leavers, en-masse, wanted a hard Brexit under WTO rules with all the economic damage that would deliver.

A lot of Leavers did not vote to be poorer and they were promised they would not be.

A vote to leave clearly meant leaving the EU and all its institutions. I am absolutely positive that this is what the Brexiteers voted for. Making our own trade deals was an important part of that, so leaving the customs union was taken as read.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35953733)
A governing party riven by civil war has just pressed their own self destruct button..

Hardly. What Theresa May should do now is to admit that the government has failed to reach an agreement on a possible deal with the EU, and consequently, the negotiations are off. We will revert to WTO rules on Brexit Day.

In the meantime, she should advise the EU that we are happy to discuss any proposals they may have to smooth the way (including frictionless borders) provided that such proposals honour the result of the referendum.

Now that would be strong leadership.


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