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When Sky Sports HD first came out it used at least 20Mbps - then codecs changed compressing HD somewhat along with a reduction in quality.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35954297)

l prefer to see real life reality OB rather then hope the fairies deliver something under the pillow by the morning.;)

The reality is in the actualities. Looknwhat this American research has shown.

https://www.rapidtvnews.com/20180716...#axzz5LQtkePGS

In what may be an inflexion point for the broadcast industry, a study from Hub Entertainment Research has found that as consumers adopt more platforms, even older viewers are abandoning live TV as their home base.

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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 35954721)

Virgin has demonstrated that it has the capacity for at least 2 broadcast UHD channels. What if demand increases and there are 10, 20 or even more UHD channels? Does Virgin have enough capacity to broadcast that many?

There are always ways of adding more capacity if necessary.

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35954755)

There are always ways of adding more capacity if necessary.

That is very reassuring and not what many people believed was the case!

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Just to repeat what I said in other threads, but this is the correct place for it.. :)

With Disney now winning the battle for Fox and Comcast looks like it has won the battle for Sky, the battle doesn't end there. It may just be beginning.

City analysts are saying that Disney wants the European pay tv rights for Disney/Fox to be taken away from Sky, so that Disney can exclusively use their own content on their own services.

Some on here have been glib about the demise of linear tv and although I think some linear channels will be around for a long time to come, especially the main broadcast channels, I do think the vast bulk of the pay tv channels market will collapse.

On another thread, Old Boy reckons that within 10 years, some of these pay tv channels may collapse, but I reckon that may happen a LOT sooner in some cases for this reason:

How can Sky run several film channels, if half of its content (Disney and Fox films) are no longer available to Sky? What if, as is the case, the likes of Amazon and Facebook win premium sports rights? Where does that leave Sky?

People can only watch so much tv. Something has to give. You cannot have 300+ channels which are financially viable alongside several major streaming services. It's too much.

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To be fair of late Sky has struggled to give away the movie channels just look at the discounts they are offering.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35954730)

In what may be an inflexion point for the broadcast industry, a study from Hub Entertainment Research has found that as consumers adopt more platforms, even older viewers are abandoning live TV as their home base.

The inflection point is Rupert Murdoch selling most of his business empire which he has spent a lifetime building, because he cannot compete with the like of Netflix, Amazon and the others.

He cannot just throw a few billion dollars to make new content, they can. It's numbers. They can simply outspend him into oblivion, which is why he is selling why he can.

What clearer signal can there be, that linear tv as we know it, is going to fade away?

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35955494)

To be fair of late Sky has struggled to give away the movie channels just look at the discounts they are offering.

Some great offers can be had with Now tv too.

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I'm struggling to understand your comments about content both Disney/Fox and Comcast have far more content than Netflix and Amazon have.

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Fully agree MM. But that is old stuff. You look at the numbers for the amount of new tv shows/episodes being produced, Netflix is making far more than Disney and Fox combined. Amazon, though, are still way, way behind for now.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35955487)

The programmes that UKTV broadcast have already been paid for by our TV Licence. Then, even though we pay to watch them again, we are being denied the opportunity. This is at the same time as some channels and much programming are made available to Freeview & Freesat viewers.

Whilst the channels are missing i'm considering cancelling my TVL and will be getting a reduction from VM, either by a better deal to reflect the missing channels or downgrading. I shall then cancel when my contract ends.

The BBC want to have their cake and eat it by selling linear content to us (again) and then the VOD rights to the likes of Netflix.

VM are as much to blame for trying to cut carriage fees. Whilst they do have legitimate arguments, if they win this will simply boost their profits and won't be passed on to us.

RC, I've copied your post into this thread as its more relevant here.

This is all related to the media mergers in defence against the streaming companies.

The BBC, ITV and Ch4 want to create a combined streaming service to compete against Netflix. They currently have a service in America called Britbox. They want to launch that service, or something similar here.

They also want to distinguish their services from Sky and Vm's paytv services and essentially make Freeview and their streaming service as the place to go for TV, with obviously the three of them in overall control.

As I said in my above post, I think the broadcast channels will survive for a long time to come and clearly so do the paytv companies as they have moved some of their services or rebranded services onto Freeview. But where does that leave pay tv? My reply to that is, it doesn't. Something has to give.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35955494)

To be fair of late Sky has struggled to give away the movie channels just look at the discounts they are offering.

Had it free for a year - watched 3 films in that time.

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35955506)

Had it free for a year - watched 3 films in that time.

Totally agree we now just use PPV and watch the odd film we want to its far more cost effective for us. There's a lot of rubbish comes out of Hollywood these days.

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If I never see a superhero film again, that will be fine with me. :)

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35955554)

If I never see a superhero film again, that will be fine with me. :)

I'm with you on that one, utter rubbish...…...:D

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35955975)

I'm with you on that one, utter rubbish...…...:D

Said it before, most films these days are utter tosh.

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35956490)

Said it before, most films these days are utter tosh.

All in the eye of the beholder l say..