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Damien 19-02-2017 16:20
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35886564)
Trump's clearly not a skilled orator or a diplomat and maybe that's what a lot of Americans like about him. I don't think the media's obsession with his choice of words is going to register much with those who voted for him. In fact, rather as it did with UKIP, all the media attacks served to make them more popular.
It's not a 'choice of words' though. It's literally saying something so grammatically incorrect everyone thinks he means something else. We would mark down students sitting their SATs in Year 9 for that.

That 'mistake' wasn't the biggest issue in the world but to have a go at people for not getting what he meant is mad. Maybe the President of the United States should communicate better than a child.

Mick 19-02-2017 16:21
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35886558)
I know what he means because people have pointed it subsequently but otherwise any reading of that sentence would think he is referring to something in Sweden last night.
He would not be the first politician to say stuff that on the surface, gives several interpretations but I would expect people to work it out instead of opting for the version that fits an agenda and it is not hard, I did not need it pointing out, I knew where he was going with what he was saying, that the refugee/immigration issue in Europe is out of control, no-one can deny this is not the case when it so is. To see stupid headlines by stupid left leaning news media outlets, and it is just another day, with their shambolic Anti-Trump hysteria that they have against him.

Now sure it is fine to question what he said and wonder what he meant, as you said you have had it pointed out to you, the media being in the business of news and information and wanting to stay a balanced news platform, would have had got that too but they decided to play dirty because going for the headline is all that mattered and when ones does it, they all do it like lost sheep.

It's like yesterday, there was a headline about former Manchester United player Dwight Yorke, being banned from entering the US on Friday, headlines on several news outlets said 'Trump's ban stops Dwight Yorke entering US." Doh, did they forget the ban is currently halted by a 9th District Court Judge in Seattle ? The actual problem, was an issue created by the previous Obama Administration, but it was far easier to blame Trump. Pathetic.

Kursk 19-02-2017 16:39
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35886567)
It's not a 'choice of words' though. It's literally saying something so grammatically incorrect everyone thinks he means something else. We would mark down students sitting their SATs in Year 9 for that.

That 'mistake' wasn't the biggest issue in the world but to have a go at people for not getting what he meant is mad. Maybe the President of the United States should communicate better than a child.
Are you being a little harsh? For example:

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35886553)
There was a program on Fox News about Muslim immigration into Sweden. He was almost certainly referencing that although it's not clear if he knew it wasn't a news report about a specific incident. That is what is causing the confusion.
There is a difference between a 'program' and a 'programme' but we all know what you meant :)

Damien 19-02-2017 16:43
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35886571)
Are you being a little harsh? For example:



There is a difference between a 'program' and a 'programme' but we all know what you meant :)
My English isn't great but I hold the President to a higher standard. :)

Hugh 19-02-2017 16:43
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35886564)
Trump's clearly not a skilled orator or a diplomat and maybe that's what a lot of Americans like about him. I don't think the media's obsession with his choice of words is going to register much with those who voted for him. In fact, rather as it did with UKIP, all the media attacks served to make them more popular.
But what he says is important - he is the leader of the largest economy and the strongest armed forces in the world; if what he says can be misunderstood, that's a problem.

Also, there's a huge difference in not being a skilled orator and making things up (largest share of electoral vote since Reagan, been on the cover of Time a record number of times, look what happened last night in Sweden).

Mick 19-02-2017 16:45
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35886567)

That 'mistake' wasn't the biggest issue in the world but to have a go at people for not getting what he meant is mad. Maybe the President of the United States should communicate better than a child.
That could be said for a LOT of politicians around the world over and over past and present, they also need to believe in democracy and stop asking for second referendums because they were not happy with the first result.

pip08456 19-02-2017 16:50
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35886572)
My English isn't great but I hold the President to a higher standard. :)
He's American though, they can't even spell English correctly.

Damien 19-02-2017 16:52
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35886574)
That could be said for a LOT of politicians around the world over and over past and present, they also need to believe in democracy and stop asking for second referendums because they were not happy with the first result.
They can ask for it, doesn't mean they'll get it (unless a lot of people vote for it). ;)

pip08456 19-02-2017 17:01
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35886577)
They can ask for it, doesn't mean they'll get it (unless a lot of people vote for it). ;)
They can't vote for it until they get it which won't happen.

Damien 19-02-2017 17:03
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35886580)
They can't vote for it until they get it which won't happen.
I meant people vote for a party that promises it. Although that itself won't happen. My point is that politicians can chose what they want to do but voters are the ones who get to judge them on it. Bit off topic though.

pip08456 19-02-2017 17:06
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35886582)
I meant people vote for a party that promises it. Although that itself won't happen. My point is that politicians can chose what they want to do but voters are the ones who get to judge them on it. Bit off topic though.
I take it that was a "Trumpism" then? You've just proved Mick's point.

Damien 19-02-2017 17:09
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35886586)
I take it that was a "Trumpism" then? You've just proved Mick's point.
What?

pip08456 19-02-2017 17:30
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
OK I'll type this slowly so you can understand.

You said.
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35886577)
They can ask for it, doesn't mean they'll get it (unless a lot of people vote for it). ;)
I said.

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They can't vote for it until they get it which won't happen.
After which you said.

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I meant people vote for a party that promises it.
Which means you had to explain yourself as you post was not clear and did not state what you actually meant.

Something like this I think.

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It's literally saying something so grammatically incorrect everyone thinks he means something else.
Ergo "Trumpism".:D

Damien 19-02-2017 17:40
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35886589)
OK I'll type this slowly so you can understand.
Needlessly rude :dozey:

My post is clear in context of the post I was replying too.

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35886574)
That could be said for a LOT of politicians around the world over and over past and present, they also need to believe in democracy and stop asking for second referendums because they were not happy with the first result.
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35886577)
They can ask for it, doesn't mean they'll get it (unless a lot of people vote for it). ;)
'it' referring to a second referendum.

Anyway this is way off topic now.

1andrew1 19-02-2017 20:29
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35886558)
He looks stupid too. It shouldn't be too much to ask of a President making a speech to structure his sentences properly. The way he said it made it sound like he was referring to 'something' happening in Sweden 'last night' and not a program he watched on Sweden last night.

I know what he means because people have pointed it subsequently but otherwise any reading of that sentence would think he is referring to something in Sweden last night.
Another theory is that he believed the attack in Sehwan was Sweden and not the place in Pakistan. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7583986.html


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