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colin25 22-06-2012 20:04

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35445233)
How do you come up with the conclusion that Virgin have lost tarnish as their is easily the better all round package and even your diehards would admit that.:)

A devalued ESPN. One selling point was getting free football with ESPN, something SKY customers had to pay for.

Now no more.

Tarnish applied :D

denphone 22-06-2012 20:07

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35445237)
A devalued ESPN. One selling point was getting free football with ESPN, something SKY customers had to pay for.

Now no more.

Tarnish applied :D

None of us will know until a years time what Virgin will do to make the XL package even more competitive but one suspects we will still get a very good value extra package compared to their rivals.:)

Emel 22-06-2012 20:23

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35445237)
A devalued ESPN. One selling point was getting free football with ESPN, something SKY customers had to pay for.

Now no more.

Tarnish applied :D

As Den says, this is a really strange argument. The XL pack has premier league football for the full length of the current contract. After that who knows, at the moment BT doesn't know who is going to produce their games for them, let alone how they are going to market them.

Until something changes the XL pack is tarnish free!

colin25 22-06-2012 20:25

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Originally Posted by Emel (Post 35445252)
As Den says, this is a really strange argument. The XL pack has premier league football for the full length of the current contract. After that who knows, at the moment BT doesn't know who is going to produce their games for them, let alone how they are going to market them.

Until something changes the XL pack is tarnish free!

True, tarnish is stored for 11 Months

denphone 22-06-2012 20:33

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35445254)
True, tarnish is stored for 11 Months

Backtracking yet again it seems Colin and perhaps a spell in detention is a fitting punishment for one of the masters greatest loyalists.:D;)

colin25 22-06-2012 20:36

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35445258)
Backtracking yet again it seems Colin and perhaps a spell in detention is a fitting punishment for one of the masters greatest loyalists.:D;)

yet again? Pray tell other incident?

And not back tracking, merely ahead of my time. :D

thenry 23-06-2012 19:37

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Jim Rosenthal as presenter for BTs prem footy ?

Media Boy UK 24-06-2012 12:56

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35445583)
Jim Rosenthal as presenter for BTs prem footy ?

Or Ortis Deley? :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L3g02nsGvw

denphone 24-06-2012 13:04

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35445728)

Who?.

Media Boy UK 24-06-2012 13:14

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35445733)
Who?.

Him who host the World Athletics Championships on Channel 4 in 2011 for the few weeks.

muppetman11 24-06-2012 13:18

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Originally Posted by Telly Bear (Post 35442729)
On Sky driver cam via the red button is in HD.:D

Whilst the race control on Sky Sports F1 HD is excellent I was correct about the driver cam , it's only SD.

denphone 24-06-2012 13:38

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35445740)
Him who host the World Athletics Championships on Channel 4 in 2011 for the few weeks.

l shall keep a eye on that and give my humble opinion accordingly.:)

Emel 25-06-2012 21:56

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Seems Chad got it right about Rangers though if they go into Div 1 rather than Div 3 as Chad suggests they could be back in the SPL when ESPN loses the Premier League.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18577192

LondonRoad 25-06-2012 22:41

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Originally Posted by Emel (Post 35446289)
Seems Chad got it right about Rangers though if they go into Div 1 rather than Div 3 as Chad suggests they could be back in the SPL when ESPN loses the Premier League.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18577192

The slight flaw with that is Rangers don't actually exist any more. The company that bought the assets don't own any football team at all which has a licence to play in any league.

..... the clock is ticking and I doubt if the team who will replace Rangers will be allowed to parachute into the the first division. Time is against them and they still haven't applied for an SFA licence.

IMHO opinion the best case scenario is the New Rangers will get into to Div 3, although that will still take a bit of rule bending (5 years audited accounts required).

I'm beginning to think that Chick Green is quite happy to have no new club ready for the coming season. No doubt Chicky Green will say his hands are tied but he's only in it to make a quick buck and if that means selling off some assets to the highest bidder whilst keeping costs down then he'll be happy.

It may not be a bad thing for those fans who used to follow Rangers. It will allow Scottish Football to restructure, possible into the regularly mooted SPL1 and SPL2 allowing the new club into SPL 2.

Where does that leave ESPN? They regularly show games not featuring Glasgow Clubs and, according to them, are happy with viewing figures, I'd be surprised if they didn't put an offer on the table.

But then again this has taken so many twists and turns it may have a while to run yet. T'internet rumours have it that there's more to come:shocked:

Chad 25-06-2012 23:11

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35446310)
Where does that leave ESPN? They regularly show games not featuring Glasgow Clubs and, according to them, are happy with viewing figures, I'd be surprised if they didn't put an offer on the table.

ESPN featured Rangers in 9 of their 30 live games last season. Only Hibernian featured in more games than Rangers with 10.

Saturday 30 July, 2011
St Johnstone v Rangers - ESPN, 12 noon

Sunday 21 August, 2011
Motherwell v Rangers - ESPN, 2.15pm

Saturday 10 September, 2011
Dundee United v Rangers - ESPN, 12.30pm

Sunday 23 October, 2011
Hearts v Rangers - ESPN, 12.30pm

Saturday 29 October, 2011
Aberdeen v Rangers - ESPN, 12 noon

Saturday 10 December, 2011
Hibernian v Rangers – ESPN, 12.30pm

Saturday 14 January, 2012
St Johnstone v Rangers – ESPN, 12.30pm

Saturday 11 February, 2012
Dunfermline v Rangers - ESPN, 12 noon

Saturday 31 March, 2012
Motherwell v Rangers - ESPN, 12 noon

SKY on the other hand featured Rangers in 14 of their 30 live games.

Saturday 23 July, 2011
Rangers v Hearts - Sky Sports, 12.30pm

Saturday 13 August, 2011
Inverness CT v Rangers - Sky Sports, 12.45pm

Sunday 18 September, 2011
Rangers v Celtic - Sky Sports, 12.30pm

Saturday 24 September, 2011
Dunfermline v Rangers - Sky Sports, 12.45pm

Sunday 27 November, 2011
Kilmarnock v Rangers - Sky Sports, 12.45pm

Tuesday 13 December, 2011
St Johnstone v Rangers - Sky Sports, 7.45pm

Saturday 24 December, 2011
St Mirren v Rangers – Sky Sports, 12.45pm

Wednesday 28 December, 2011
Celtic v Rangers – Sky Sports, 7.45pm

Sunday 26 February, 2012
Inverness CT v Rangers - Sky Sports, 12.45pm

Saturday 17 March, 2012
Dundee United v Rangers - Sky Sports, 12.45pm

Sunday 25 March, 2012
Rangers v Celtic - Sky Sports, 1pm

Sunday 29 April, 2012
Celtic v Rangers - Sky Sports, 12.45pm

Wednesday 2 May, 2012
Rangers v Dundee United - Sky Sports, 7.45pm

Saturday 5 May, 2012
Rangers v Motherwell - Sky Sports, 12.45pm

So over ESPN and SKY Rangers were the most televised team last season featuring in 23 of 60 live games. If SKY and ESPN asked to renegotiate their TV deals with the SPL, now that Rangers are on their way out, who could argue with them?

As a Rangers fan I've got no objections from starting in the 3rd division. It's time to pay our dues. If it takes us a few years to get back to the SPL then so be it. I think it'll be beneficial to the Scottish game to have Rangers and their fans visiting the likes of Elgin or Stirling Albion twice a season and putting their money into the lower leagues. Rangers in the lower leagues might also bring new revenue to smaller clubs by way of sponsorship and even brief TV highlights. Rangers will also have to play in the Scottish Cup, League Cup and Challenge Cup from the 1st round which again helps spread money around the lower leagues of the game.

I can understand why fans of others clubs hate Rangers. I can also understand why fans of other clubs are disgusted by the lack of humility shown by some Rangers fans. I for one feel we need to take our punishment on the chin and move forward in a dignified manner.


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