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I think that the use of "semi legal" to describe something as harmless as lending somkeone a DVD - just goes to show how complex and ridiculous this all is.

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So is it 'semi-legal' to lend someone a screwdriver? a teapot? a stapler?

People seem to be talking themselves into a position the MPAA/RIAA would dearly love to see. Don't forget they are already proposing to make it illegal to sell secondhand CD's and DVD's.

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Indeed ,there is no such legal term as semi illegal ,There are only legal and illegal .What i do is illegal ,i make no bones about ,i do think the law is an ass and needs changing to bring it up to date and keep track with technology .What is the point of a law that is inefective

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I'd love to see the police arrest Myrtle, the lady who works at my local charity shop, for crimes against music copyright.

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A screwdriver does not have a licence printed on the back that says

You agreed to the licence by the simple act of buying it. Therefore you cannot transfer it to a new owner, store it on an archive system, or make a copy of it.

A screwdriver has no such clauses.

I used the term "semi-legal" because its not "Illegal" to do any of it, but it is against the licence contract, which is a civil issue.

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Where does "lending it" to someone for 3 hours come into that?

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Copyright owners sometimes affix warning notices to packaged DVDs, or display notices on screen before showing the content, which purport to list uses of the DVD that are forbidden under copyright law. Such notices do not always fairly reflect the buyer's legal rights established by the first-sale doctrine.

Source

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I can't help but note, that the link you gave was to US case law. I thought we were discussing UK law.

In any case, I agree that the law is an ass, but its still the law, and it should be changed, not broken.

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You don't see the same notices on your UK purchased DVD's? I know I do. Let's not forget when we talk about the media industry there's only one law ;)

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Another stupid analogy from you; unless those items are covered by copyright and IP rights :rolleyes:

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You have a point there, about the media industry thinking theres only one law. Sadly they have enough money and political clout to make it come true.

Doesn't change the fact that its still currently against copyright law to make copies without their permission. I stand by what I said earlier, if you can't afford it, do without.

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Can I ask - does it actually matter in practice just what the law is when it's obvious to a blind man that it isn't being enforced?

Anyone breaching copyright has more chance of being struck by lightning during the course of watching/listening to said item than they do of being dragged before the beak for downloading it.

Sunday market traders in dodgy DVDs etc. are of course a different matter and do occasionally get their collars felt by trading standards but I doubt that any of their customers ever do.

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I hope that isn't personally aimed at me. As I have pointed out I pay for monthly subscriptions to both LoveFilm (£16.33, unlimited DVDs my package is no longer available) and NetFlix (£5.99, I'm supporting it even if it is rubish) so trust me I can afford it.

At no stage during my posts have I said I download copyrighted material yet the holier-than-thou crowd, and one stupid person, automatically assume that if you know anything of what is happening in filesharing you are participating illegally. As I have already mentioned I do run a seedbox (non-copyrighted material only) and that's why I keep an eye on what's happening . I have also pointed to gigabytes of legal MP3's and movies yet again the discussion focuses on copyrighted material.

When people don't see a CD or DVD as a physical object that can be held and passed to someone else and instead try to sound clever by mentioning copyright and intelectual property rights, even after I have already pointed to links where it cagegorically states it is legal to lend a CD or DVD then the MPAA/RIAA have an even easier job than I thought.

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Uk copyright law is different to US law

http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/co..._copyright_law

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Don't worry, it wasn't aimed at anyone specific, just at the freetards in general.