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Paul 12-12-2025 21:29
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Still seems an odd choice, there is little on the BBC site about Vietnam, and its mostly about the damage caused by storms etc.

Dingbat 12-12-2025 22:42
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
It appears to have been blocked since 2002.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...hip_in_Vietnam

Pierre 14-12-2025 21:20
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
H-1B applicants are foreign professionals seeking temporary U.S. work in "specialty occupations" (requiring higher education/skills like tech, medicine, law) sponsored by a U.S. employer, needing at least a U.S. Bachelor's degree or equivalent,
So not tourists, general visitors to the US, World cup fans or participants…………

As I said.

Quote:
Most likely bollocks but easily lapped up by …….those that easily lap up these things

Lap, lap, lap, lap, lap, …………

Stephen 14-12-2025 21:25
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36207812)
So not tourists, general visitors to the US, World cup fans or participants…………

As I said.




Lap, lap, lap, lap, lap, …………
But they are proposing to bring in all that was listed for tourists. It is under consideration.

Pierre 14-12-2025 21:39
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36207813)
But they are proposing to bring in all that was listed for tourists. It is under consideration.
Bollocks, unworkable. Give your head a wobble. As I said from the outset.

Tens, possibly hundreds, of Millions of tourists visit the US each year. Can’t be checked in that detail.

But you can check specific visa applicants, applying for positions of significance.

Somebody got a headline, broke the story without the the detail, and the usual suspects, lapped it up, without a critical thought in their head…….like “doesn’t sound workable to me” but Trump is evil, so it must be true….

Hugh 14-12-2025 21:42
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36207812)
So not tourists, general visitors to the US, World cup fans or participants…………

As I said.




Lap, lap, lap, lap, lap, …………
That was a separate piece of legislation about H-1B applicants being required to set Social Media to ’Public’, unrelated to the ESTA proposals

In case you missed the specifics re ESTAs, here it is again…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=2078

Quote:
The United States could begin requiring visitors from countries on the visa waiver program to provide up to five years of their social media history, according to a U.S. Customs and Border Protection proposal posted to the Federal Register to be officially published Wednesday.
https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...-form-i-94-and

Quote:
3. Mandatory Social Media:

In order to comply with the January 2025 Executive Order 14161 (Protecting the United States From Foreign Terrorists and Other National Security and Public Safety Threats), CBP is adding social media as a mandatory data element for an ESTA application. The data element will require ESTA applicants to provide their social media from the last 5 years.

4. High Value Data Elements:

To comply with the January 2025 E.O. (14161), and the April 4, 2025, Memorandum Updating All Forms to Collect Baseline Biographic Data, CBP will add several “high value data fields” to the ESTA application, when feasible. This is in addition to the information already collected in the ESTA application.

The high value data fields include:

a. Telephone numbers used in the last five years;

b. Email addresses used in the last ten years;

c. IP addresses and metadata from electronically submitted photos;

d. Family member names (parents, spouse, siblings, children);

e. Family number telephone numbers used in the last five years;

f. Family member dates of birth;

g. Family member places of birth;

h. Family member residencies;

i. Biometrics—face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris;

j. Business telephone numbers used in the last five years;

k. Business email addresses used in the last ten years.

CBP invites the public to comment on both the previously approved emergency changes and the newly proposed changes.

Type of Information Collection: Paper I-94.

Estimated Number of Respondents: 865,639.

Estimated Number of Annual Responses per Respondent 1.

Estimated Number of Total Annual Responses: 865,639.

Estimated Time per Response: 8 minutes.

Estimated Total Annual Burden Hours: 115,418.

Type of Information Collection: I-94 website.

Estimated Number of Respondents: 2,278,054.

Estimated Number of Annual Responses per Respondent: 1.

Estimated Number of Total Annual Responses: 2,278,054.

Estimated Time per Response: 4 minutes.

Estimated Total Annual Burden Hours: 151,870.

Type of Information Collection: ESTA Mobile Application.

Estimated Number of Respondents: 14,484,073.

Estimated Number of Annual Responses per Respondent: 1.

Estimated Number of Total Annual Responses: 14,484,073.

Estimated Time per Response: 22 minutes.

Estimated Total Annual Burden Hours: 5,310,827.

Type of Information Collection: CBP Home.

Estimated Number of Respondents: 600,000.

Estimated Number of Annual Responses per Respondent: 1.

Estimated Number of Total Annual Responses: 600,000.

Estimated Time per Response: 2 minutes.

Estimated Total Annual Burden Hours: 20,000.

Pierre 14-12-2025 22:01
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36207815)
That was a separate piece of legislation about H-1B applicants being required to set Social Media to ’Public’, unrelated to the ESTA proposals

In case you missed the specifics re ESTAs, here it is again…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=2078



https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...-form-i-94-and
You’ve just reposted,………..nothing really

Quote:
The United States could begin requiring visitors from countries on the visa waiver program to provide up to five years of their social media history, according to a U.S. Customs and Border Protection proposal posted to the Federal Register to be officially published Wednesday.
The operative word being……”could”

Have they?

I don’t think they have, outside of specific H-1B requirements. If they have, by all means enlighten me, but I doubt you will.

I’m happy to admit if I’m wrong……….I don’t think I’ll have to.

How about you?

Also they don’t want your social media “history”

They request your usernames, which they have done for the last decade.

This “proposal”, makes it mandatory, but it’s a proposal……..”could”

Hugh 14-12-2025 22:03
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
You may wish to refer your questions to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), Department of Homeland Security, who are the ones proposing these requirements…

As you said

Quote:
Until there is something official, from the US government, confirming that……it remains fiction.
Not fiction…

Pierre 14-12-2025 22:38
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36207817)
You may wish to refer your questions to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), Department of Homeland Security, who are the ones proposing these requirements…

As you said



Not fiction…
You can reman in your Trump Deranged status Hugh.

The requirement to voluntarily submit your social media logins under ESTA has been in place for over a decade, and through the Biden administration.

This “proposal” to make it mandatory, is no more onerous, “if” it is employed.

As usual, this terrible Trump story, is nothing of the sort.

Damien 14-12-2025 22:49
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Changing it from optional to mandatory, along with all the other requirements, is quite the request, though. As is this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1dz0g2ykpeo

Quote:
As well as the collection of social media information, the new document proposes the gathering of an applicant's telephone numbers and email addresses used over the last five and 10 years respectively, and more information about their family members.
That is ridiculous, and it's a legitimate proposal that Trump's government has put forward. I am not sure what your objection to pointing this out is?

1andrew1 14-12-2025 23:01
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36207819)
Changing it from optional to mandatory, along with all the other requirements, is quite the request, though. As is this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1dz0g2ykpeo

That is ridiculous, and it's a legitimate proposal that Trump's government has put forward. I am not sure what your objection to pointing this out is?
The only people not wanting these proposed requirements to be discussed are Trump supporters as they know it makes his administration look weird and thin skinned.

Hugh 14-12-2025 23:33
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36207818)
You can reman in your Trump Deranged status Hugh.

The requirement to voluntarily submit your social media logins under ESTA has been in place for over a decade, and through the Biden administration.

This “proposal” to make it mandatory, is no more onerous, “if” it is employed.

As usual, this terrible Trump story, is nothing of the sort.
Except…

The additional data required by the CBP proposal

Quote:
To comply with the January 2025 E.O. (14161), and the April 4, 2025, Memorandum Updating All Forms to Collect Baseline Biographic Data, CBP will add several “high value data fields” to the ESTA application, when feasible. This is in addition to the information already collected in the ESTA application.

The high value data fields include:

a. Telephone numbers used in the last five years;

b. Email addresses used in the last ten years;

c. IP addresses and metadata from electronically submitted photos;

d. Family member names (parents, spouse, siblings, children);

e. Family number telephone numbers used in the last five years;

f. Family member dates of birth;

g. Family member places of birth;

h. Family member residencies;

i. Biometrics—face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris;

j. Business telephone numbers used in the last five years;

k. Business email addresses used in the last ten years.

Carth 15-12-2025 01:43
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I've not been following this much, doesn't hold much interest for a poor pensioner that won't ever visit . . even if somehow I win the lottery.

All this data they're wanting, is it just from people coming in, or will it include all the nutjobs that already reside in the good old US of A?

Anonymouse 15-12-2025 04:24
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I forgot the link again (damn memory), but it seems journalists are being laid off...on the grounds of colour.

Okay, I'm going to make 2 assumptions here, which may be wild and/or unsafe given what we've seen so far:

1) Trump can read;

2) He can understand what he's reading.

How long until To Kill A Mockingbird is banned? In defending Tom, the implication that he's innocent and in fact wasn't even physically capable of the rape (owing to him being crippled) is very clear. That, to MAGA et al, is bad - he's black, so of course he's guilty. How dare the author suggest otherwise?

I didn't bother with <sarcasm> tags for once. Still...

papa smurf 18-12-2025 09:51
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
News anchor says Donald Trump has a 'small penis' in furious rant after 'vile comments'


wow this guy lets rip on the manbaby


https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...trump-36418857

Sephiroth 18-12-2025 12:41
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36207955)
News anchor says Donald Trump has a 'small pe***' in furious rant after 'vile comments'


wow this guy lets rip on the manbaby


https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...trump-36418857
Perhaps that's why they can't pin much in him in relation to Epstein.

thenry 18-12-2025 13:06
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
How is he fornicating with a pornstar with no p****? Guys a retard :rolleyes:

Stephen 18-12-2025 13:13
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36207957)
How is he fornicating with a pornstar ......
No one said he doesn't have one. :rolleyes:

It's just tiny.

Sephiroth 18-12-2025 13:14
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Use your imagination. Now awaiting a HUGE picture from @Hugh.

Anyway, the size of Trump's manhood is prolly directly proportional to the claims he has made in his address to the nation.

thenry 18-12-2025 13:28
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Tiny is as good as no useful equipment. Elephant man must be packing some military grade weaponry.

Carth 18-12-2025 14:02
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
ooooh, ex news guy says Trump has a small one . . . that's gotta be worth at least a $300 million claim for reputation damage ;)

Sephiroth 18-12-2025 14:13
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Is that why the thread is entitled "President Trump 2.0"?

papa smurf 18-12-2025 14:44
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36207965)
Is that why the thread is entitled "President Trump 2.0"?
stop exaggerating:erm:

Pierre 19-12-2025 00:04
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36207955)
News anchor says Donald Trump has a 'small p****' in furious rant after 'vile comments'


wow this guy lets rip on the manbaby


https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...trump-36418857
So, that’s the level of journalism we’re dealing with now?

Trump can be, and to many, a complete dick.

But……he is still the president, love him or hate him.

The office still, deserves an amount of respect. Minimal, but still evident.


Anyway, just another indicator that the West is done, another 30years, and we can welcome either our Chinese or Islamic masters.

Actually, I’d be on the Chinese side, it’s a rough choice, but Han Chinese or Islam………..China all the way.

I’ll be dead anyway.

Stephen 19-12-2025 00:14
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
No respect for the President or the White House. They show none to anyone else at all.

Dingbat 19-12-2025 00:39
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Having seen the ridiculous plaques he put under the photos of the last few former presidents, and his comments on the murder of Rob Reiner, how could anyone have the slightest iota of respect for that moron?

Stephen 19-12-2025 00:53
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Not only that but to celebrate 250 yrs of the USA they are holding a UFC event at the White House! As well as a four day athletic event with a young male and young female entrant from all 50 states taking part, the Patriots Games(Hunger Games) sounds like a joke but it is very real.

The Dystopian US is nearly upon us.

Hugh 22-12-2025 22:09
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
1 Attachment(s)
New Trump envoy says he will serve to make Greenland part of US

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgmd132ge4o

Quote:
Donald Trump has sparked a fresh row with Denmark after appointing a special envoy to Greenland, the vast Arctic island he has said he would like to annex.

Trump announced on Sunday that Jeff Landry, the Republican governor of Louisiana, would become the US's special envoy to Greenland, a semi-autonomous part of the Kingdom of Denmark.

Gov Landry said in a post on X it was an honour to serve in a "volunteer position to make Greenland a part of the US".

The move has angered Copenhagen, which said it would will call the US ambassador for "an explanation". Greenland's prime minister said the island must "decide our own future" and its "territorial integrity must be respected".
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1766437712

Paul 22-12-2025 22:26
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Sounds like someone sucking up to the Trumper.

jem 22-12-2025 23:18
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36208097)
Sounds like someone sucking up to the Trumper.
You don’t say?

Stephen 23-12-2025 00:48
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
The supreme leader just announce a new battleships class with plans to have 20-25 eventually.

The name for this new class of ship..... yep, you guessed it. The 'Trump class':rolleyes:

Is no one going to stop him sticking his name on everything in sight?

Paul 23-12-2025 02:18
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
That class name may well quietly disappear when he's no longer in power.

A single ship named after him is perfectly possible, many are named after former presidents.

Anonymouse 23-12-2025 07:42
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
He's on about Greenland again. What part of 'up yours, Trump', which he got from Greenland, doesn't he get?
And is it coincidence that he's proposing building 20-25 "Trump-class" battleships? What, one wonders, is he going to do with them?
I'd say 'conquer Greenland', but they still won't be finished by 2028 (seriously, it takes years to build a battleship), by which time he will - he should - be out of office. Unless he is planning on getting around/ignoring the 22nd Amendment.

Heinlein saw it coming. This is how Nehemiah Scudder started - he was elected in 2012...and in 2016 there was no election. So Heinlein was only out by 12 years, Scudder - oh, sorry, Trump - having been elected in 2024. Not bad considering "If This Goes On -" was published in 1940.

papa smurf 23-12-2025 10:08
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36208116)
He's on about Greenland again. What part of 'up yours, Trump', which he got from Greenland, doesn't he get?
And is it coincidence that he's proposing building 20-25 "Trump-class" battleships? What, one wonders, is he going to do with them?
I'd say 'conquer Greenland', but they still won't be finished by 2028 (seriously, it takes years to build a battleship), by which time he will - he should - be out of office. Unless he is planning on getting around/ignoring the 22nd Amendment.

Heinlein saw it coming. This is how Nehemiah Scudder started - he was elected in 2012...and in 2016 there was no election. So Heinlein was only out by 12 years, Scudder - oh, sorry, Trump - having been elected in 2024. Not bad considering "If This Goes On -" was published in 1940.

it's a story to take peoples minds off his association with Epstein

Hugh 24-12-2025 09:14
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://wapo.st/3MOHwnj

Quote:
The Supreme Court said Tuesday it would not allow President Donald Trump to deploy the National Guard in the Chicago area for now, a significant setback for his campaign to push troops into cities across the country over the objections of local and state leaders.

The president’s ability to federalize the National Guard likely only applies in “exceptional” circumstances, the court’s unsigned order said.

Justices Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas and Neil M. Gorsuch dissented from the court’s unsigned order. Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh filed a separate concurrence.

The Chicago case is the first time the Supreme Court has weighed in on one of Trump’s attempted deployments of National Guard forces. While temporary, the order could have far-reaching effects by repudiating Trump’s claim of virtually unchecked authority to mobilize and deploy troops he says are necessary to fight crime and protect immigration enforcement officers.

The order could affect how lower courts rule in other cases where local and state officials have sued to block Trump’s deployments, such as in Portland, Oregon. It may have less immediate effect on the National Guard deployment in D.C. because of the federal government’s unique role in overseeing the nation’s capital.

Hugh 26-12-2025 01:04
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
1 Attachment(s)
Most people just stop after "Merry Christmas"…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1766707399

Stephen 26-12-2025 02:17
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
That is a whole lot of projection right there.

vincerooney 26-12-2025 03:00
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36207660)
I would like to remind everyone reading this that Trump is doing a good job; I've always been a fan.
whats the measurable being used to qualify for "doing a good job"? I'm not sure if you're being serious or not.

Whilst its not the full on sh*t show people said it would be (same as his first term) i wouldnt say its a "good job"?

Whilst he has fulfilled his promises on border crackdowns and enabled tarrifs and stopped environmental laws which he promised there is slower economic growth, cost of living is till too high (tarrifs contributing to this) plus a lot of federal workforce disruptions.

I'm intrigued by 2026 because after the midterms the trump era is going to slow begin to fade (unless he tries to do a Xi Jinping and remove term limits) and its going to be very intriguing to see how the republican party survives a post MAGA era or will it eat itself alive with one of the trump sons running or will JD Vance be the heir apparently. I can see JD moving away from Trumps position if president.

the republican party will struggle to move past the MAGA era as they've all been upstaged by MAGA politics for 10 plus years now and a lot of republicand have gone full on MAGA in order to preserve their positions and keep the money rolling in....it'll be a bit difficult to entangle them now.

But the democrats may well shoot themselves in the face by picking the wrong candidates with the wrong messages.

Newsom would do well I think.

Harris would not do well (again) as she has zero likeability like hilary. I think harris would have made a great president mind. Pete Buttigieg would be destroyed in an election.

We have to accept that women running for president in the USA isnt there yet as a viable option. Coupled that with a woman of colour and its doubly not. USA is still not there yet in my eyes. Yes Obama was elected but that was because the republicans were so unpopular after Bush. Obama had such a strong personality it got a lot of swing voters. Popularity is huge in the USA more than in the UK its why Trump with zero political experience got elected twice.

After november 2026 it'll be interesting to see how trump reacts with the attention moving away from him....expect fireworks! he doesnt like not having the attention!

Newsom Vs JD Vance is my pick. Newsom would probably pick AOC as running mate in the hope that 8 years later the USA may be ready for a female president. I personally dont think they will...

TheDaddy 26-12-2025 11:27
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36208253)
whats the measurable being used to qualify for "doing a good job"? I'm not sure if you're being serious or not.

Whilst its not the full on sh*t show people said it would be (same as his first term) i wouldnt say its a "good job"?

l...
The measure being he wants to go to travel to america possibly for the world cup during this presidency and doesn't want some goon going through his social media and finding him being mean about the dear leader.

jem 26-12-2025 23:27
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36208257)
The measure being he wants to go to travel to america possibly for the world cup during this presidency and doesn't want some goon going through his social media and finding him being mean about the dear leader.
OH, harsh burn - harsh but likely true!

Hugh 03-01-2026 09:17
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://wapo.st/4joD4Yr

Quote:
CARACAS, Venezuela — Explosions were heard and smoke could be seen rising in multiple locations across Caracas in the early morning Saturday, as aircraft were seen flying over the Venezuelan capital.

Loud explosions jolted neighborhoods near the Generalissimo Francisco de Miranda Air Base in the eastern Caracas community of La Carlota, residents said, with smoke visibly rising from one of the air base’s hangars. One woman watching from her apartment with a clear view of the base said the detonations were “deafening.” Residents in several parts of the city, including near La Carlota, reported experiencing power outages.

It was not immediately clear what caused the explosions, but the Trump administration in recent weeks has escalated a military confrontation with the government of President Nicolás Maduro and increasingly threatened a land attack. President Donald Trump recently said U.S. forces were responsible for an explosion at a marine loading facility in Venezuela, in the first known direct attack on land in the South American country.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5yq...a9dda9b5c#post

Quote:
07:47 BREAKING
President Trump ordered strikes on sites inside Venezuela, including military facilities, US officials tell the BBC's US partner CBS News.

07:34 BREAKING
Trump administration officials are aware of reports of explosions and aircraft over Venezuela's capital Caracas early Saturday morning, sources tell the BBC's US partner CBS News.

This comes after weeks of pressure on Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro from the Trump administration.

The US president accuses his Venezuelan counterpart of infiltrating America with drug trafficking and crime.

papa smurf 03-01-2026 10:20
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
got bored with "stopping" wars now he's starting them

Sephiroth 03-01-2026 10:30
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Maybe another strike on Iran? Or would that be too useful to be likely?

papa smurf 03-01-2026 10:39
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Maduro and wife captured by the usa

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Hugh 03-01-2026 10:56
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I can't believe a FIFA peace prize recipient would do this...

<Greenland and Panama Canal look nervously over their shoulders >

papa smurf 03-01-2026 10:59
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
He could be the first recipient of the mad vlad war prize

Sephiroth 03-01-2026 11:00
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Now let’s see how Starmer gets on when he’s put on the spot by journos. indeed any of them. Farage needs to be careful, though.

Damien 03-01-2026 11:22
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
The fun thing with this is watching all the Trump fans who lectured everyone about Trump being anti-war rationalise why this is a good thing.

To be fair, some of them have broken from Trump over stuff like this and Iran. But some are loyal to the end.

thenry 03-01-2026 11:38
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Is Trump not stopping a breakout of all out war by disabling Iran? Iran have gone awfully quiet since the airstrikes.

Drug trafficking causing all kinds of antisocial behaviour on homeland territory which is affectively war on the streets of America.

The only part I disagree with is destabilising a country for better democracy.

1andrew1 03-01-2026 11:47
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36208436)
Maybe another strike on Iran? Or would that be too useful to be likely?
Depends on how much people are talking about the Epstein files. 😉
That being said, I do favour the protestors in Iran so if this helps them it could be a good thing.

papa smurf 03-01-2026 12:09
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36208443)
Is Trump not stopping a breakout of all out war by disabling Iran? Iran have gone awfully quiet since the airstrikes.

Drug trafficking causing all kinds of antisocial behaviour on homeland territory which is affectively war on the streets of America.

The only part I disagree with is destabilising a country for better democracy.
you have to look at the biggly picture, how much money will the Trump family make out of this

1andrew1 03-01-2026 12:40
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36208440)
Now let’s see how Starmer gets on when he’s put on the spot by journos. indeed any of them. Farage needs to be careful, though.
Yes, Farage normally takes his cues from Putin so I expect him to say little on the subject. Not something I expect Starmer to devote much time to either.

Sephiroth 03-01-2026 13:24
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36208447)
Yes, Farage normally takes his cues from Putin so I expect him to say little on the subject. Not something I expect Starmer to devote much time to either.
Interesting. Many people would say that Farage takes his cues from Trump.

As it happens, Farage is now reported as condemning the Venezuela strike.

Sirius 03-01-2026 13:25
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36208438)
I can't believe a FIFA peace prize recipient would do this...

<Greenland and Panama Canal look nervously over their shoulders >
Do they have lots of black gold by any chance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Venezuela

Quote:
The proven oil reserves in Venezuela are recognized as the largest in the world, totaling 300 billion barrels (4.8×1010 m3) as of 1 January 2014

Anonymouse 03-01-2026 13:33
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36208438)
I can't believe a FIFA peace prize recipient would do this...
Oh, I can. Coming from a bloke who can't even recognise his home country's national bird...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36208449)
Do they have lots of black gold by any chance.
<cynicism on>Yes, the good ol' Texas Tea. As Vimes rightly said, follow the money. </cynicism off>

thenry 03-01-2026 14:02
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36208449)
Do they have lots of black gold by any chance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Venezuela

Quote:
The proven oil reserves in Venezuela are recognized as the largest in the world, totaling 300 billion barrels (4.8×1010 m3) as of 1 January 2014
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Timothy Marshall, SkyNews, they have about 17% of the worlds reserves but it's pretty rubbish oil, it's sludge. Cuba's oil could be cut if theres regime change.

Not a lot will change as it's effectively just cutting the head off the snake. The defence minister is still in place. The vice president she is still in place. The Bolivariana milicia tens of thousands of them are still in place. The colectivos tens of thousands of them small political units, thugs most of them. All of them don't want to go down with the president there's too much money they will lose. So the regime is still in place.
Snakes can still give a kiss of death when cutting their heads off. Snapping their neck is the way to go but the last time America involved itself with such acts Iraq happened :no:

Hugh 03-01-2026 14:21
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36208448)
Interesting. Many people would say that Farage takes his cues from Trump.

As it happens, Farage is now reported as condemning the Venezuela strike.
"condemning"?

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1767445707

Could someone explain the logic of "one large country attacking a smaller country and capturing its leader" could make two other large countries considering doing the same to, maybe, Taiwan or the Baltic States "think twice"?

thenry 03-01-2026 17:46
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Trump: USA will run Venezuela for the interim.

God damn! Those plastic gangsters don't look so tough now big Don has intervened

Chris 03-01-2026 17:59
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Unless they’re able to put their own army in as a police force, and civilian administrators in to take over the civil service, it’s hard to understand how exactly the USA means to run another country. Its control of Iraq was never entirely complete and they had actually over-run the place, with significant international co-operation.

Pierre 03-01-2026 18:00
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I don’t think the Venezuelan people will be too upset with Uncle Donald’s intervention.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/...ort-venezuela/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_in_Venezuela

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/venezuela-crisis

And regardless of anything else, they’re the ones that matter.

Chris 03-01-2026 18:14
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Oh I’m not arguing for Maduro at all. Simply pointing out that kidnapping a president isn’t the same thing as taking control of a bureaucracy.

I think in this, as is often the case, Trump is just repeating the last thing someone told him. There are yes-men in his administration who have told him that’s what’s going to happen, and Trump is dumb (or demented) enough to believe it.

thenry 03-01-2026 18:17
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Iraq was a religious hell hole

Paul 03-01-2026 18:21
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Who is in charge of Venezuela now then ?

thenry 03-01-2026 18:24
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Trump said the USA are delegating right now. Vice president is playing ball but she was appointed by Maduro

Sirius 03-01-2026 18:38
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Did i just hear correctly on the live stream by Trump that Venezuela was stealing American Oil !

thenry 03-01-2026 18:40
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Apparently USA owned the mechanics of the industry

Sirius 03-01-2026 18:43
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36208473)
Apparently USA owned the mechanics of the industry
I just knew Oil would come into this at some point.

thenry 03-01-2026 19:00
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Trump also said life is a deal :LOL:

1andrew1 04-01-2026 00:34
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Best reaction to the Venezuela operation comes from Zelensky.
Quote:
During the briefing, the president was asked how he could comment on the US operation in Venezuela, in which American special forces abducted dictator Maduro and transported him to the territory of the United States.

"Venezuela? Well, how should one react to that? What can I say? If this is how dictators can be dealt with, then the United States knows what to do next," Zelenskyy joked, hinting at the possibility of abducting another dictator similarly — this time, Russia’s.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...d043bb531&ei=6

Paul 04-01-2026 01:59
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Didnt Trump call Zelensky a dictator ?

Chris 04-01-2026 10:12
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I think he was calling Putin a traitor.

Hugh 04-01-2026 11:11
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
1 Attachment(s)
It's a SCIF (Sensitive Curtained Information Facility)…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1767521453

1andrew1 04-01-2026 12:31
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36208453)
"condemning"?

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1767445707

Could someone explain the logic of "one large country attacking a smaller country and capturing its leader" could make two other large countries considering doing the same to, maybe, Taiwan or the Baltic States "think twice"?
Yes, it might make them think twice but not in a way we like! A strange choice of words.

Sephiroth 04-01-2026 13:55
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
There’s nothing wrong with thinking beyond the end of one’s nose. Farage has indeed “condemned” Trump’s action in Venezuela but, that having been done, spawns the possibilities presaged by Farage.


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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36208483)
Didnt Trump call Zelensky a dictator ?
Now there’s a thought. Trump abducts Zelensky; USA governs Ukraine; USA does the ”peace” deal with Russia; Zelensky goes on trial for a “trumped” up charge; USA organises property deals in Ukraine’ USA hold elections in Ukraine. Moldova falls to the Russians.

thenry 04-01-2026 15:59
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Delcy Rodriguez
Nicolas Maduro's own vice president, finance and oil minister has been tapped to replace him as president, according to Trump.

"She's essentially willing to do what we think is necessary to make Venezuela great again," Trump said.

However, in a video address, Rodriguez struck a different tone - insisting Maduro is the "only" leader and demanding his release.

Venezuela's Supreme Court ordered yesterday that Rodriguez assume the role of acting president of the country.

The court ruling said she would assume "the office of President of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, in order to guarantee administrative continuity and the comprehensive defence of the nation".

The ruling also said the court will debate the matter to "determine the applicable legal framework to guarantee the continuity of the state, the administration of government, and the defence of sovereignty in the face of the forced absence of the president of the republic".

Edmundo Gonzalez
The 76-year-old is Venezuela's recognised president-elect, according to the US previously.

French President Emmanuel Macron name-dropped Gonzalez as the person to "swiftly ensure" Venezuela's democratic transition after Maduro's capture.

Then relatively unknown, Gonzalez had taken Machado's place as opposition presidential candidate in 2024.

Officially, Maduro won a third six-year term, but after manipulation claims, the US recognised Gonzalez as president-elect.

European countries were more cautious, as most didn't officially recognise Gonzalez, instead merely refusing to recognise Maduro's claimed victory.

Gonzalez received asylum in Spain in 2024, after an arrest warrant was issued for him in Venezuela.

https://news.sky.com/story/venezuela...#liveblog-body
There's more in that post on SkyNews. The Nobel peace prize winner "doesn't have the support" according to Trump. And interim government legislation was changed in 2023.

This is going to make for a great based on a true story film.

Our governance is innocent until proven guilty. Should many slip through the cracks of the system in Venezuela you'd imagine a new lease of life but living a double life goes only so far. I can't only picture an ant farm being told to live a different way. It would become manic but then we do live a chaotic life :shrug:

Pierre 04-01-2026 21:15
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36208490)
Yes, it might make them think twice but not in a way we like! A strange choice of words.
What’s the way we wouldn’t like?

1andrew1 04-01-2026 23:51
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36208510)
What’s the way we wouldn’t like?
Removing the leaders of a regime close to them to give them control over that country.

Anonymouse 05-01-2026 05:43
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I've just read that it costs $40 just to enter the States, never mind all the info you have to hand over.

I could never afford an American holiday anyway, though I've long wanted to go. Now, though, I have just three words for Trump. The first I can't post on this forum (quite right, too), but the second and third are 'you sideways'. You get the idea, I'm sure. :mad:

I doubt I'm alone. Let's see what happens to their tourist industry.

I haven't had a holiday since '16. I might go somewhere this year, my tiredness notwithstanding. I'll have to do research first, though. The USA isn't the only tourist-unfriendly country. The EU countries which don't want tourists - well, I can see their point in some cases, but their position makes no sense whatsoever when you consider their economies depend on tourism.

How friendly is Dubrovnik these days? Back in '86 the Yugoslavs (as they were then) were friendly. Doing my bit for their economy, I bought a hand-carved chess set. I'd love to visit (more likely, given my financial situation, the most I can afford to do is pass by) Casino Royale. Not to gamble, I'm not that stupid, just to see it.

(As part of a UFO tale on Fanfic.net, "Shaken And Stirred", I wrote a story inspired by Bond - which included a petite, slightly top-heavy, randy, blonde, bisexual Croatian receptionist!)

I hope I can get something to eat, though - the local food mostly didn't agree with me (plus too much garlic and thin soup) and I lost nearly a stone on that holiday. On getting home I virtually inhaled a bowl of soup. :p:

Paul 05-01-2026 06:11
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Dubrovnik was fine when we holidayed there for a week, back in 2019.

Hugh 05-01-2026 09:36
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Dubrovnik (and Montenegro) were fine in July ‘22 when we had a week there - cuisine was fairly "international" (lots of varied restaurants in the Old Town), but not cheap (not Central London prices, but not cheap).

We’ll probably go back again.

papa smurf 05-01-2026 10:39
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Cleethorpes is fantastic for international food

Fish n chips
kebabs
pizza
pasta
indian
chinese
American

1andrew1 05-01-2026 10:52
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Montenegro was a lot cheaper than Dubrovnik when we went 10 years ago. Portugal is one of the cheaper places in Europe to go at the moment. Yes, you can head east to Bulgaria and Romania but the flights are longer and more expensive.

Carth 05-01-2026 11:21
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36208521)
Cleethorpes is fantastic for international food

Fish n chips
kebabs
pizza
pasta
indian
chinese
American
Definitely ranks higher than Mablethorpe :tu: :D

Paul 05-01-2026 16:35
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36208522)
Montenegro was a lot cheaper than Dubrovnik when we went 10 years ago.
Yeah we went into Montenegro & Serbia for a day trip while we were in Croatia. Both were quite cheap then.

Hugh 06-01-2026 22:17
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Well, there goes NATO - looks like Putin’s plan is working…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyg1jg8xkmo

Quote:
US discussing options to acquire Greenland, including use of military - White House

President Donald Trump has been discussing "a range of options" to acquire Greenland, including use of the US military, the White House said.

In a statement, the White House told the BBC that Trump had made clear that acquiring Greenland was a "national security priority".

"The president and his team are discussing a range of options to pursue this important foreign policy goal, and of course, utilizing the US military is always an option at the Commander-in-Chief's disposal," the White House said.

thenry 06-01-2026 22:27
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
:woot:

Hugh 06-01-2026 22:39
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Putin simp…

thenry 06-01-2026 22:50
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Nope not necessarily Putin. I just believe I will never own this world and treat people the same way.

It would be something extraordinary if the whole of America was made exactly that, one big Americana, high on legal marijuana.

Paul 06-01-2026 23:04
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
At this rate we'll be joining Russia and China against the US. :erm:

Sephiroth 06-01-2026 23:33
Re: President Trump 2.0
 

Well, the USA has a whole load of military bases here in the UK. So, an army in waiting - if that's what one believes would happen.

Carth 07-01-2026 00:19
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
World Domination part VII . . . although there'll be nobody left to write about it :D

Hugh 07-01-2026 01:13
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36208582)
Nope not necessarily Putin. I just believe I will never own this world and treat people the same way.

It would be something extraordinary if the whole of America was made exactly that, one big Americana, high on legal marijuana.
It’s like English, but only different…

To paraphrase Eric Morecambe - "it’s all the right words, but not necessarily in the right order…"

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36208585)

Well, the USA has a whole load of military bases here in the UK. So, an army in waiting - if that's what one believes would happen.

Not so much any more - Lakenheath, Mildenhall, and Fairford are USAF bases, whilst the rest are mainly Logistics support/Sigint/NSA/CIA - not many Septic boots on the ground in the U.K..

Anonymouse 07-01-2026 11:00
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36208584)
At this rate we'll be joining Russia and China against the US. :erm:
I believe the word is "war". :erm: The US is acting much as Germany did - only worse, because he intends to attack an ally. I hope we'll stand for this as much as we did in 1939, i.e. we didn't. You might say we've no chance - a tiny little island against a juggernaut. But people said that in 1939. Guess what? We won (ironically with the aid of the US, not against them).

Time to ID strategic targets in the UK...and either avoid them, if you think we can survive a nuclear exchange (remember "Threads", and Sheffield was hit with one A-bomb - we never saw what was, or rather wasn't, left of London), or head towards them and be atomised. At least it'll be quick. Hopefully the dolphins and/or apes will do better than we did.

"It was a Vulcan calculation that a culture's lifespan was either some 50 years after basic fission was discovered, or else indefinite." - Star Trek: The Final Reflection.

Well, we got 88 years after fission was discovered c/o Otto Hahn, which is a bit better...

Hugh 07-01-2026 11:50
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Well, if Ivan delivers one of their 550kt MIRVs to Menwith Hill (20km as the crow flies) - so long, and thanks for all the fish…

Dingbat 07-01-2026 14:16
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36208584)
At this rate we'll be joining Russia and China against the US. :erm:
More likely that Russia will side with Trump, and China stand back waiting to pick up the pieces, while taking Taiwan and possibly the rest of South East Asia.

thenry 07-01-2026 15:40
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
"The @TheJusticeDept & @DHSgov , in coordination with the @DeptofWar today announced the seizure of the M/V Bella 1 for violations of U.S. sanctions.

"The vessel was seized in the North Atlantic pursuant to a warrant issued by a U.S. federal court after being tracked by USCGC Munro."

https://news.sky.com/story/greenland...#liveblog-body
Quote:
Pete Hegseth, the US secretary of war
"The blockade of sanctioned and illicit Venezuelan oil remains in FULL EFFECT — anywhere in the world."
https://news.sky.com/story/greenland...#liveblog-body
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/01/2.png

:Yes:

noel43 07-01-2026 17:39
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Sanctioned by usa not the world

Carth 07-01-2026 18:00
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by noel43 (Post 36208608)
Sanctioned by usa not the world
Oh . . I thought the USA was the world . . or intend to be ;)

Chris 07-01-2026 19:47
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36208601)
Well, if Ivan delivers one of their 550kt MIRVs to Menwith Hill (20km as the crow flies) - so long, and thanks for all the fish…
Recent attempts at ballistic missile testing in Russia suggests if they intend to deliver a MIRV anywhere they will be doing so by hand.

Hugh 07-01-2026 20:44
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36208610)
Recent attempts at ballistic missile testing in Russia suggests if they intend to deliver a MIRV anywhere they will be doing so by hand.
Careful - you don’t want to be on Putin’s "naughty" list…


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