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Although it seems there are 8 tuners as 2 are being kept back....;) |
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Sky Q launched before the UHD service, so the HDMI capability was listed as HDMI 1.4 at the time. When Sky launched their UHD service they upgraded to HDMI 2.0 by firmware, necessary to support 4K/50 8-bit and 10-bit they now output. There are two versions of HDR the boxes will need to be able to support in the future - HDR10 for most On Demand content and another, that has yet to be standardised, for live broadcast, but likely to be Hybrid Log Gamma, or HLG. Sky said in the spring that they will do all they can to upgrade the box to support these two standards, once they are agreed, believe it should be possible, but can't say 100% until a broadcast standard is finalised. Virgin have said they will support HDR in the near future, but haven't talked about the two types, don't have any visible plans for broadcast HDR and are in the same position as Sky, chasing a yet-to-be-finalised standard (although, as the article linked above shows, The BBC are launching today test HLG broadcasts via iPlayer). If Virgin have an advantage, it's because they are talking 7 or 8 months after Sky's last interview on the matter and probably have a clearer picture on broadcast AVR. On the other hand, they were not specific and could just have been talking support for HDR in On Demand content, and specifically for Netflix. So really, we are still in limbo over "full" HDR support by both boxes and need to "watch this space". Edit: seems the standards for broadcast HDR, which include HLG, are now "finalised but not yet published": http://www.insideci.co.uk/news/dvb-a...st-hdr-tv.aspx. So hopefully broadcasts using this will be incoming in the next year or so (iPlayer hopefully sooner). |
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I wonder whether BT and Sky will delay letting virgin have sports in 4K for a while, it's quite a big thing to be able to hold over their heads given the money in football these days.
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Where VM may have some luck with Sky, is 4K movies and possibly on-demand 4K content for things like The Blacklist that is available on Sky Q. Depends how much they want and how much VM are prepared to pay. Might not be in the next few weeks or months, but I would hazard a guess that VM are already in discussions....I hope lol |
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The sensible business decision IMHO for Sky/BT, would be to hold on to them, as a USP, given that both boxes are equal and the only real distinguishing difference is personal usage requirements. |
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It might take a while, but VM are in the business of providing content. Just how far/how much will they pay, to provide that content is anyone's guess at the moment when it comes to 4K. I have faith....I think they'll come good :) |
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I rang Virgin media to try to order the V6 Box i mentioned that i rang last night and got a install for 5th Jan 2017 the lady last night told me sooo much BS they person i spoke with couldn't believe what the lady said to me i even got the Activation Fee FREE and even got Sky Sports and Movie £20 less a Month for 6 months so i'm a happy Bunny , it looks like you have to have your modem next to your superhub i just hope they got to alter the Traffic Management before too much data is used |
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There were several years delay, and VM (Telewest then?) ended up selling the channels they owned and associated content to Sky in exchange for HD plus restoration of Sky channels that had been withheld by Sky in a financial dispute. It wasn't quite as simple as that but that was the outcome. A few months after that, Sky launched Atlantic and kept it exclusive. |
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I thought I would share my renegotiation with Virgin in the hope that it could help someone.
We have 200mb BB, XL TV and Talk Weekends (paying now the deals ended £51.49 + the line rental with a 1TB Tivo and an additional basic box upstairs. Currently come to the end of our deal with Virgin and had cancelled on the 30th November, when I spoke to an adviser and raised a complaint about his attitude, I didn't hear anything back and then spoke to someone from the complaints team yesterday who offer who could offer me £48 per month if I kept my existing Tivo box something that I didn't want to do but they could offer me it at £51.49 + £150 for a V6 box in installation something that I decided not to take, however the credited the account with £50 to close the complaint. I phoned back today and spoke to retentions, who said they would ask the outbound retentions team to call me as I was now in cancellations. A lovely chap phoned me back and in the end did my full package for £41.50 per month (200mb/TV XL/Talk Weekends a V6 and the extra box upstairs) although I had to pay £50 for the box and £50 for the install the £50 credit covered some off and now they've changed the package It recalculated our bill crediting the account with a further £30 leaving us effectively with £20 to pay. Only downside is they can't install till 8th Feb although he advised me to call back after Christmas to see if there were any new slots - gives us some time to watch the recorded shows! |
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My 2 V6's have just been installed and they are on wifi and working fantastic
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Hi could you upload a wee video to show them working
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I meant a link to a youtube video
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do they only run on 2.4ghz?
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Well I found a slot available and that is for Wednesday 14th December instead of January 6th. If people want me to do a video I'll be more than happy to do so, and a full review including streaming and any bugs I find
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As we're comparing charges this is what I got:
Activation Fee £14.99 Activation Exception £14.99CR Manned Installation Credit £40.00CR Manned Installation Charge £40.00 V6 Box Activation Credit £50.00CR V6 Box Activation Fee £99.95 One-off charges & credits total £49.95 |
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Hi everyone first post here. I got the new V6 box installed today and the speed is great compared to the old tivo box.
Just one problem, in the old Tivo box I used HDMI port to main tv and Scart (21 pin?) cable to Kitchen tv. In the V6 box there is no 21 pin scart and not sure what the scart output (9 pin) thing is. Since there is only 1 hdmi port , anyone have a idea to what I can do, use a scart coverter or something? |
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"TiVo features: Record three shows and watch a fourth" Here come the targeted adverts we have been hearing about: "Information about your TiVo use: By having the and/or using the TiVo service you give us your consent to use your viewing information to personalise your TiVo experience (in addition to the other purposes set out in our privacy policy). We may share this information with third parties..." P.S. No ideas what "By having the and/or using" means. |
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To get a SCART output from the V6, you'd need an HDMI splitter an HDMI to SCART converter. |
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BTW its an S-Video port. |
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Still think it won't be long before targeted adverts start appearing on the menu and pause screens though. Never mind, I'm sure some people will enjoy them. :shocked: The US still have the option to opt out I understand. |
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What a useless bit of kit then. Forcing people to add yet another box to get TV circulated around the home. -10000 points.
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The HDMI to RCA converters seem to cost less than £10. |
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There are advantages and disadvantages of being with Sky or Virgin Media. Most on this forum are with Virgin by choice and it does seem that Virgin can do nothing right in your eyes. Hence, why I asked the question - why are you still with Virgin? |
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OK so does that mean copying recordings is now not allowed
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If when my old VHD box goes belly up that the only TV offering is the V6 then it's bye bye Virgin.
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I have a fondness for VHS too.
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[QUOTE=mackemsrule;35874153]I'll get back onto them tomorrow, thanksJst
Just been back on the phone and the lady said that the price given was correct for being on the lower bb speed, and it was £50 less if you are on the larger 200mb speed package. The fella who placed my order bumped my speed up and gave me a £50cr to cover this, I told her people were saying it was still wrong and she went and checked and said she couldn't change the order so she has given me another £50 credit off my bill due this month, so only paying £30+ for this month, so thanks everyone |
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You've took that too far mister..........:D |
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Would a HDMI splitter work? |
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I believe it's the entertainment industry that has, for several years, been putting pressure on the equipment manufacturers to phase scart out. They want all connectors to be a copy protected type, and therefore, HDMI. |
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To go to 2 TVs , would both be able to view same thing.
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meanwhile I'm spinning Jack The Lad on the turntable ... lovely .. |
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So how can we archieve material on v6
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A Freeview recorder should be able to archive material in SD quality. |
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I think people need to get out more!
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I agree you can't give a copy to someone else. |
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This forum went mental overnight, what has happened??
Reading all the comments about SCARTS, VHS, archiving, it's like being taken back to the dark ages lol I've had my say on SCART and old tech...I'm looking forward to 4K UHD programming and you guys still using SCART to get TV around the house lol...couldn't make it up in 2016. Ditch the old kit, and get with the times :-) There is no possible argument that will convince me that people still need SCART cables and to archive programmes they will never watch again...jeez, waste of time :-) |
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Retransmits my DVD/HDD recorder output too. Mind you that's good Sony kit and outputs 576i SCART for the modulator and 576p component to the TV simultaneously and also feeds through the SCART from the VHD box on standby. |
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You pay VM for XL TV package which has all of the HD channels and you also have a VHD which also is capable of HD, yet you using kit that produces 576p and 576i...Please tell me you have a HD tv :D |
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I have a setup that enables me, if I so wish, to record a full HD HDMI copy protected signal(HDCP) to my PC. No big deal. Off the shelf Game capture device and another device that also happens to remove the HDCP. Even works on streaming devices, such as the Roku, Amazon firestick etc. The info is out there.
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Can someone explain the pricing (excluding activation / box charges) fully.
Currently we pay £137.73 which has a £18.25 loyality discount so in fact its 155.58 which is basically Big Kahuna Sports and Movies Bundle HD, 3 500g tivo boxes and 200mb broadband and talk unlimited and multi talk 1000. If I understand correctly we can have the new stuff on VIP package. So I could in theory have: 2 V6 Boxes 1 tivo box I have for £120 + extra box charge without loyality discounts? Or have I messed up the pricing? Also with the V6 boxes can you connect them with your own router so the hub 3 is in modem mode (either wired or wireless) ? |
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My v6 will be fine, but my mum and dad's (being fitted the day after) the hub is in a totally different room. Wireless should be fine and they are possibly going to get Powerline plugs, but wondered if we don't have the Powerlines in place would the engineer refuse to install? |
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As long as the V6 can talk the home network (and the internet) then the install should be completed as far as I'm aware.
If the chosen network connection method doesn't work, and the customer refuses the alternate option to get it working, then the install wouldn't complete as the V6 won't work without a valid network connection. |
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I know U C; what can you do with us oldies; stuck in the past with our Scarts, S-video and composite video via phono leads. Next thing you know, we'll be digging out valve amps and hooking up turntables and playing vinyl LPs with there associated 'clicks and pops'. Can't imagine anyone doing that today ;):D |
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Wow I am back in the 90s, I remember the good old days with Scart :-)
Quick question for everyone here. Just got my new contract through to sign. One item on it is Leapfrog Additional Tbr* ... Any idea what that is?! |
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Sorry if it's already been posted, but for you guys with the latest AV amps, it supports Dolby Atmos. Does Netflix support that? As someone with a 5.1 setup, I don't pay much attention to Dolby Atmos and DTS:X news.
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Let me help you come into the 21st century with our 4K tvs and dolby digital HD, ULTRA HD surround sound (whatever they call it), that will blow your hearing aid off hehehe :D ---------- Post added at 14:03 ---------- Previous post was at 13:58 ---------- Quote:
Without sounding patronising, after reading some posts today, I would like to know. |
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