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That's why I won't be going the win 10 route.

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Me neither. The last W7 update broke the stretch option for the desktop background in the control panel. :rolleyes:

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l have the same feeling.:(

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I've never really had any problem with Windows 10, on the occasion Windows has gone tits up it was right after installing an update which left me not able to boot.

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Which explains a problem that you never really had. I stopped at windows 7 IMHO it was the best they eventually came out with. XP was good W7 better. Anything after that is carp!

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I loved Windows 7 but Windows 10 runs better than 7 did, i am not saying 7 or 10 had any real issues but 10 just performed better on my PCs, i much prefer the Windows 7 theme though.

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The problem with windows 10 Is has always been the M\S Not fully checking updates the latest one installed today was a nightmare siezed up the desktop and stopped firefox running . took nearly an hour to sort that out.
Windows XP and 7 Here in use as well amount of threats detected has almost vanished
so M\S Panic measure not to use EMAIL and WWW On WIN7 this week usual Rubbish.
my XP Dell runs a programme that 7 or 10 Will not so its in daily use. The Antivirus is updated as is Firewall software .
i spend more time Sorting M\S W10 out than i want to so M\S get it Right

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I was one of those that stayed with win7 almost to the end, hated the thought of going to win 10. But as I use Oculus a lot I was forced to update it begrudgingly. But I have to admit I worried over nothing. I actually don't mind 10 at all. It's not that much different to 7 and things are running better than before.

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windows 10 may 2020 update now offically available

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/soft...load/windows10

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I want an update that will stop them issuing so many updates....

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I'd like it to patch like Linux does and doesn't need reboots at all except to load new versions.
The worse part of Windows updates is when you shutdown at work and it says updating don't turn off PC for you don't know how long.

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It's 2 major updates per year, one of which is a minor patch on the previous update. So realistically it's one major update per year.

Unless you count monthly patches, in which case good luck keeping your system secure without them.

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especially when they are shit pc's. It takes forever just for me to sign in and for it to download my profile.

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Ive tried to update to the latest version of windows which is the may 2020 update and keep getting the error.... oxc19a000101.

I can find little about it and therefore little help.

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Is the update showing up in the Windows update area or are you trying to update another way? The May 2020 update is being issued in a more staggered way than usual this time. https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to...y-2020-update/

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I've been making extra sure of backing up my system and hiding Windows updates to avoid them being installed.
Hide Windows Updates or driver updates

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I had problems recently with an update, kept failing after it rebooted, on 48% every time - would turn itself off,

I tried so many different things about cleaning up temp files, manually deleting update files to force it to redownload, tried burning a dvd and booting from that, running from in windows etc,

used

https://www.ccleaner.com/

the free cc cleaner, and either it was that that was needed to remove a broken file/link to a file/clean up some temp file, or a lucky coincidence that that and the other stuff like


from powershell
Repair-WindowsImage -Online -RestoreHealth

from admin cmd prompt
sfc /scannow
rundll32.exe pnpclean.dll,RunDLL_PnpClean /DRIVERS /MAXCLEAN
chkdsk c: /f /r

made it work, i was at last straw before doing reinstall, wasted so much time letting it update reboot, then go "no, rolling back"

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showed up in windows updates.

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The last updates that came down for me were on 16th May and then installed without a hitch

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Can you take a screenshot or picture of the error you're seeing? I don't think that's the correct number.

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Took the plunge and allowed the May Update. MS have screwed up YET AGAIN. Same old problem of losing access to your user profile. Been happening for months. :mad::mad::mad: When are MS GOING TO SORT IT OUT.


Managed to undo the update and then "hide" it, as otherwise it will simply install itself again.:rolleyes: No doubt all this to look forward to again in a months time.

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The error code starts with a zero, not the letter O. A partial search for "0xc19a0" suggests problems with HP printers.

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At one time I had Win10 update issues, the only solution as it would rollback and then work was to download the patch files and apply offline.

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Decided to run it through a second time and this time it went without a glitch and i did nothing at all different.

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Did you lose access to your user profile after the 1st attempt?

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No it just failed with an error on the first attempt.

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My PC did update even though it took several hours. It seemed ok at first but the following day everything has slowed to a crawl. Apps either won’t open or take several minutes to open and then constantly freeze. :mad:

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Quick question:

If you bought a new car, and it was in for safety repairs/recalls every few months, would you buy another of the same make?

I'm actually wondering how these 'professional' people can get it so wrong . . . constantly :rolleyes:

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They aren't though are they? Yes that is an annoying glitch but what caused it and what percentage of users has it affected. There must be a quirky setting or configuration which a minority of users are using which is causing the update to screw up. With all the hundreds (if not thousands) of updates I have done over the years I have only ever had one update mess up and that was with Windows ME 20 years ago.

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Show me a single Operating System that doesn't need monthly security updates.

You cannot compare software to hardware, but in your analogy, cars _do_ get software updates for security. Don't buy a Tesla if you are worried about software updates.

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Had to roll back this update to get everything working again. First time I have to do so on my PC. Did have similar problems with the wife’s laptop about 12 months ago, rolled that back until a later update that worked fine.

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Mine for a start, Win 7 Ultimate (SP1), first thing I do on a fresh install is disable updates.

I guess it depends on how paranoid you are and whether you're susceptible to all the security hype created by those who's job it is to tell you about all the nasty and horrible things they've found, and which their brilliant security software can nullify . . often at a price.

There are also those among us that can't recognise a scam email, dodgy internet link or a spoofed website . . . no amount of security updates will help them ;)

But hey ho, each to his own . . no matter how hard they push you to conform :)

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And yet, it's not snake oil salesmen telling you to patch your systems, it's Microsoft themselves. Who aren't profiting or making money from those monthly patches.

I don't even know why you bothered to install the Service Pack, if updates are such a terrible thing.

Given Windows 7 is EOL, the least you could do is one final update so at least you're not years behind with patches.

It's interesting, you're basically saying you wouldn't trust a locksmith because they're trying to sell you a lock to keep your house secure. Why, nobody's robbed you before, so it must be a scam, right?

Right.

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Don't install the last W7 update. It screws up the stretch wall paper function amongst other things.

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Updated to W10 version 2004 this morning, no hitches but took a long time!

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Yes I updated all our PCs over the last 48 hours. As you say, all went well, but took ages. However, in some cases certain apps had to be reinstalled afterwards, e.g. Expressvpn and Acronis true image. There may be others that occur when I next try to use them.

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No issues doing my update, went smoothly and quickly. I do have Windows on fast nVME SSD's though, so that probably helped.

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The problem with Microsoft is that they assume everyone has the latest fastest systems. They should test their updates on old low spec pcs which a lot of people have.

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They do test on low spec systems, they even produce low spec systems (Surface GO). Just because it takes time to do doesn't mean it was untested.

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I was sent a handy hint today, and thought I would share it with CF’ers - something that enhances screen viewing if you’re colour-blind (I have protanopia/red-dichromacy).

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I a. Using Opera search engine and all was well with everything and I like it. All of a sudden You Tube will not work, but it works on Google Chrome etc ,

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check to see if opera is up to date

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Try clearing the cookies associated with Youtube.

I had the Youtube app on the smart TV stop working due to it using out of date cookies when Youtube changed its layout. I had to clear the cookies in the TV browser ( Opera )

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Will try this, Is Opera better than Google Chrome or it it just much he same, Does anyone know, ?

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Depends on your paranoia outlook ;)

WOudl you rather google knew everything about you, or the Chinese Governemt? (A Chinese Co bought Opera a while ago)

Firefox, clear history etc on exit ftw :)

You could try Brave browser, or Vivaldi broswer, they're all free, use what you like, there's pros and cons of all of them.

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Vivaldi I give the thumbs up to, such a fast great looking browser which I prefer the interface to compared to others, it's a shame their Android browser isn't great yet, especially with LastPass integration, which is useless.

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Ohhh Vivaldi has device sync now. I don't think it did last time I used it so it was more or less useless to me. I'll give it another try.

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Updating my parents pc to the latest version has taken over 4hrs!

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How are you liking Vivaldi?

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I recently started using Firefox on Mobile after some Chrome issues and I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised at how far it has come. The last time I tried it, it was bloody unusable. The new version only works with a couple of extensions but one of them is uBlock Origin so that's fine with me (And Chrome supports zero).

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Had to roll my PC back to previous build a few months back after the update completely stalled the system. Programs/apps took ages to open or wouldn’t open at all.

Did the full update again 2 days ago and although it took about the same length of time as yours it seems to be working ok this time.

Just in the middle of updating the wife’s laptop this very minute.

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Shame my parents pc and laptop don't have an SSD installed as it would be so much quicker.

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SSD's are dirt cheap now.

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I'm liking it. I've only just started using it properly, it's taking awhile to get used to because I've used Chrome for so long.

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I can't go back to Google Chrome or Firefox after using Vivaldi the interface is so much nicer in my opinion.

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I haven't explored it properly yet. I wish I could of imported all passwords etc from Chrome though.

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Isn't there an option for that? I use Last Pass but I thought you could import anything on the Desktop version, the mobile version isn't good yet and I use Edge on there.

Edit, says you can.


https://help.vivaldi.com/article/password-management/

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Im a big firefox fan, cant go wrong with firefox.

Ive used it so long since Version 3.6 infact.

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I spent years on Google Chrome as it was way faster than Firefox, then Firefox got just as fast so I moved over to that for a year or so, then Firefox screwed up big time over the course of a weekend where their add-ons didn't work so that's when I moved to Vivaldi and couldn't go back.

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Firefox does have a habit of screwing up every now and then for me, usually around every 12-18 months. It can usually be fixed by creating a new profile.

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I stopped using Firefox years ago, Chrome just came out of no where and knocked it out the park so I moved over to that. Because Chrome was so good, everyone else started stepping up their game, which is why we have Vivaldi, Brave and even Edge Chromium.

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It only carried over my usernames :erm:. I'll just have to keep going back to Chrome to see what the passwords are till I get them ha.

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Not sure if it is related to the last update but I have noticed the response from mouse clicks seems a bit erratic since the update. Thought it might just be my PC but was using my wife’s laptop yesterday and that is the same?

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No issues here have you tried googling it or updating mouse drivers?

You could remove the update and see if that fixes things.

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Yep, googling reveals it as a long term, well documented problem. Did update mouse drivers with no real improvement tbh.

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Which update has caused it and what mouse are you using, i'm on logitech set point and got no issues.

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The last full update, Logitech keyboard and mouse on my desktop out atm so not sure what is on the wife's laptop.

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Wish i could help but i really don't have a clue but it is super strange it is happening on 2 computers in your household, maybe you have installed the same app on both that is causing the issue? whatever app that might be is something to think about from around the time it started happening.

Also see if it happens in safe mode.

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According to a lot of the Google threads this has been an ongoing problem for a few years with Win 10. First time I have encountered it though.:(

The only thing common to both PC’s was the Win 10 update.

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Roll back the win 10 update and see what happens.

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Hanging fire on that option for the moment, had to roll back the last but one major update which totally borked the system, apart from the mouse niggles everything else isn’t that bad this time.:dunce:

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Have you tried uninstalling the mouse drivers and rebooting?

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Not uninstalled them but did update them, I am managing atm, seems worse on the laptop than my PC or maybe I have become used to the the slight delay.

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How's safe mode?

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Not got round to trying that just yet, have just found a failed/stalled windows update so trying to get that sorted to see if that helps.

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Weird, the stalled update was for .NET framework.

Managed to get it to update correctly, rebooted and mouse now seems to be responding correctly. :confused:

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windows 10 october 2020 update officially out

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/soft...load/windows10

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how do u know if its downloaded?

Ive had a few updates and downloads over the past few days.

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They come down on Tuesdays and your pc will download it and reboot tonight.

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It asks you to restart/reboot, and then as a result no longer works. That's been my(and others) experience since March.

Hopefully they've finally sorted out that issue. Seems a relatively minor issue of what should happen after the updates have been applied.

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Being offered to me already

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1603218648

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hit the windows key and type "windows update". The first search result is advanced windows update options. Select that and it will take you to the main window update tab. In the main windows you will see current updates that are available like Downquark has illustrated above. There are several tabs on the left hand side and one of them in "view history". If you click on it you can see all the updates it has download and choose to roll them back if you are having problems.

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Well i ran the windows upgrade assistant and it went through the motions and what do u know, it didnt update still on same version number.

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It use have only been a minor change, usually takes hours for full update but this one completed in less than 30 minutes from start to finish.

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Not on Windows Update for me yet.

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The 'H2' updates are done differently now.

https://www.techrepublic.com/article...ed-to-upgrade/

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Still on 1909, 2004 is now finally offered but not forced.

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Wonder if you can skip through 2004? I have some machines I didn't bother updating to that.

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From that article earlier:
Not sure what that means for a 'Home' version as I always update my own computer so haven't experienced as skip install.

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Just checked one machine and yes it lets you go straight to 20H2 so I started that going.

Thing is it took microsoft half a year to fix all the issues with H1 so it wouldn't surprise me if most people skip.

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After an initial failed update to 20H2 repeated again tonight.
For anyone waiting to update it was like being on the old dialup, 200Mb max but the download was on a dribble feed speed in kbps.
[Will try and see how things work out]

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Raging Bull ive done the same,, Attempt one failed and ive retried and it worked but was slow it took about an hour and 15 mins from start to finish.

Attempt 2 worked and now running the latest version of windows.

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Still no update here.

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Will wait a few months or so till they iron out the Dwnload problems . typical Microsoft

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There are no "Download Problems" that i saw, its just the fact that they now stagger the upgrades instead of just sending it out for a free for all.

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Thats explained why i clicked download now and it Sat there,

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I've been lucky - it downloaded in the background, let me know it was ready to update, and did so without any issues.

It also updated
KB4580419 Cumulative Update Preview for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10, version 2004, Windows Server, version 2004, Windows 10, version 20H2, and Windows Server, version 20H2

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Windows 10 20H2 update

"In this version of Windows, the classic “System” page in the Control Panel has been removed. When you try to open it, you’ll be taken to the About page in the new Settings app."

"Microsoft is proud that this is the first version of Windows 10 with the new, Chromium-based Microsoft Edge browser included."

https://www.howtogeek.com/684812/wha...ing-fall-2020/

Win10 Spring 2021 updates

https://www.howtogeek.com/685996/wha...g-spring-2021/

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open file explorer then highlight this pc on left hand side right click a blank space and click properties to get old system page

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The UK government was complaining to firefox about this. Now they may throw the toys out of the pram.

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windows 10 21H2 now officially available

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/soft...load/windows10

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Annual updates instead of bi annual now too