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Hey Ben,

I'm on the VIP without Talk Unlimited Extra...they didn't upgrade me for free on that haha :D

I'm not sure what to make of the new BIG DADDY bundle, or if it's worth changing. Do you know if they are phasing out their old collections?

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I'm sure my parents price increased earlier this year. Is this another rise this year ?

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The current Collections will continue, you won't be forced to move off it.

However it's probably likely the new bundles will be priced in a way that moving to them is an advantage.

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It's almost guaranteed that the Sky premium channels will change - as they do for Sky's own customers.

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Got sports and movies with HD, how much is just the sports. Nobody at Virgin will give a straight answer to me.

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They don't have any Sky Premium channels , is it only Sky Premium channels that will increase this year ?

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Cheers Ben.

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No shortly after VM will announce a price rise too, those who take Sky premium channels tend to get 2 price rises a year. Those who don't have the Sky premium channels get 1 price rise.

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Oh

what is this?

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Nothing was mentioned about specific bundles. I don't really want to mention too much, in case people think the possible changes will actually happen. They did listed numerous things (about what or would or would not add value). A few suggestions that stood out for me were the possibility of Netflix being bundled into a package, Netflix having more newer TV content, catch up TV and on demand having its own dedicated broadband connection like Netflix, cheap sim only mobile deals, refunds if you do not get your advertised broadband speed. They did also ask about SA. Whilst I don't really care for the channel, I do think it would add value to VM, much like BT Sport does. I use BT Sports and many others don't, but still had to stomach the price rises. In my eyes, it's only fair IF SA did ever launch that I help subsidise it through my bill.

It would be best to take all this with a big pinch of salt, as there is a high possibility nothing will come from this. It was only a survey gaining customer feedback. Hope it helps though.

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My source seems to thing there are plans to bundle Netflix into the XLtv package as more channels drop down into the L and M+ packs.

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A package of streaming services would be good, though. I think this is coming, but I suspect it will take a while.

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Cheers for the info Harry...certainly worth knowing what VM are thinking about.

Netflix would be great in a TV bundle, I can see that being a good plus point. Maybe SA too, but that would definitely result in a price rise ;)

A refund for not getting advertised BB speed, could be tricky. But could make VM raise their game in the field they want to do best in.

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£2 rise for Netflix

£3 rise for SA

£4 rise for both

Of course I say this in jest :angel:

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That would be excellent if they did.

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Personally l cannot see that scenario.

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Sorry MM (and everyone else), have re-read the email and it said prices may go up, not that they will. Yeah I seem to recall having a price rise earlier in the year, but if this potential new increase gives me Netflix (for less than £5.99) in my bundle And possibly more, I will be happy to pay it.

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Sorry, I misread the email, it said they may have to increase prices. It did not say they will increase prices. Apologies for the confusion.:o:

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Not a chance imo.

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The channels dropping from XL into L and M+ is already happening mate as i mentioned last year it would, FOX, HORROR, Nat geo are just a example of a few.

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I recently participated in a survey by Nunwood for Virgin Media which was mainly concerned with bundles. They also spoke of packages with Netflix bundled in, so I too think the future may well see theone2k10's prediction become true.

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Yes, I understand this, but I just cant see them giving us Netflix for free.

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For what it is worth, whilst speaking to retentions yesterday, woman seemed pretty definite that Sports channels would be launching on Thursday July 17th, and she said that as far as she knows SSN and SN would be launching in HD by Christmas (no mention of a year though!). Asked about Atlantic as we were waiting for a screen to load, she reckons that it will launch before the end of 2015. How much is true, I have no idea. Thursday seems a good bet for launch though.

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I think it'll balance itself out tbh, Netflix being in XL will be covered by either A. a price rise or B. funds from the XLTV pack itself.
I'm not sure how much channels get from VM for being in their packs.

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Is anything really free ? You'd imagine they'd increase XL charges to cover its addition , to be honest with the exception of the Netflix Originals a lot of its content can be sourced using TIVOs recording/wishlist functionality across the vast range of channels.

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I have Netflix as part of my `free for 6 months` deal when I re-joined Virgin and I can honestly say after 3 months I`ve yet to see anything on that I`ve wanted to watch! My partner has watched a bit of stuff on there though but nothing as far as I`m aware she couldn`t of found elsewhere.

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House of Cards was excellent mate.

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Don`t know that one,sounds like a political thriller type thing. Might give it a try when I can wrestle the remote off the mrs!

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One thing you should bear in mind Mark is never believe what customer services or retentions say about possible things that might arrive on such and such a day because simply they would not be privy to that information until the day it launches.

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Everyone seems fixated with "XL" as a package yet to me Virgin are trying to move away from these terms. Virgin now offer different bundles e.g. Big Easy, Big Bang, Big Kahuna & Big Daddy all with different combinations of broadband size, available TV channels (60+, 130+, 230+, 260+), boxes and phone.

Add ons will be available to these bundles i.e. Sky Sports / Movies and the future will probably see 200, 300, 400 mb broadband and Netflix being available to certain bundles (and maybe Sky Atlantic). However there is one thing that's for sure, nothing will be free!

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Nothing has changed, at all. There have always been bundles, which are combinations of three, now four, services.

There have always been different sizes of each of the different services. TV has acquired a new one, moreTV, and the others are M, M+, L and XL.

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I did say I would take it with salt, but I think she might be spot on with the launch of the remaining sports channels. The rest? Time will tell.

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Yeah your quite right it's all semantics, however I had XLTV with 60mb broadband but just signing a Big Kahuna contract I get the same TV package but with 152mb broadband for less. So can I still say that it's XLTV?

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Yes, as it's still called that - even in the Big Khanua information on the website:

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400mb is already being tested i believe.

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Not much use over wifi with the existing Super Hubs. Hopefully this will come with a newer 802.11ac based model.

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Wi-Fi is rubbish, rip your floorboards up and cat6 your house, only light occasional stuff should rely on wi-Fi.

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I live in a bungalow with conctrete floors, don't really want wires running everywhere. Did just get a free upgrade to SHUB2 and it works a lot better, in my house anyway.

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Anyone have any idea on how long it will be until Virgin bring in a dynamic EPG? Sucks they are behind SKY for this.

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The TiVo EPG is moderately dynamic. There are four updates a day, and we can do extra ones for high-profile changes. But making it update in real-time would be a huge change to the way the software works. I won't rule out it ever happening, but don't hold your breath.

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Seems a little drastic....;)

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Sky seem to manage it :confused: and don't charge a £5 for the privilege

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True Howard but then again the TiVo is a much better overall STB then Sky's old dinosaur and that's the unbiased in me talking.:)

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They both have there good points,sky stb has vastly improved with the new update and a lot faster than TiVo.The suggestions option on TiVo has become a gimmick personally tend to just delete suggestions folder rather than take a look,TiVo regarding series links is a lot better and the wish list is a very handy tool but.but still fail to see the justification to charge £5 per month :confused:
Ie regards faster sky box I have a 2tb (maybe that is faster than the standard hd box)

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Roll on dynamic EPG!

Once again, yesterday Casualty was moved so Tivo records a quiz show instead, thinking it is Casualty.

Annoucer says Casualty has been moved to 2110 Sunday. I know Tivo will not record this as it thinks it already has recorded it.

Look on Guide for 2110 Sunday. 'Death in Paradise' is listed from 2100 to 2200! Recorded that and news following in the hope Casualty may be recorded.

No experience of Sky, but if their box is worse than Tivo, it must be dreadful.

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The standard Sky+HD box and the 2TB are the same speed wise , the Sky+HD software will constantly evolve trust me ;) I'm sure the TIVO will also.

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It ain't ;)

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Afternoon all anything fun occurring?

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You need to get out of bed at a proper time Vince! All hell broke loose earlier, and the mods have deleted about 500 posts. Sorry, but if we tell you what it was about we'll all be banned :shocked:.

Cheers

Grim

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haha oh dear... ive just opened my bedroom blinds too. looked like it was a nice day too...

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:D

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It's wifi, not bluetooth. :erm:

I am getting full speed from VM throughout the house over wifi. 2.4 GHz normally works fine, even if the band is somewhat crowded. With 5 GHz, I appear to have the whole band available to myself with no other users detected.

I have to say that this probably wouldn't be the case using default WLAN driver settings. Most "power saving" options will slow wifi speeds down and are better disabled.

With speeds of upto 1900 Mbps available on the latest 802.11ac routers there's plenty of headroom available for any speed increases likely to be made by VM in the near future.

I don't think I'll be ripping up the floorboards anytime soon. ;)

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That's pretty poor on whoever operates the EPG as BBC said last Sunday that casualty was on Sunday this week too.

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Sky's EPG works in a totally different way. The guide data is broadcast continually, and boxes receive it all the time, so any updates are picked up almost instantly. Whereas TiVo periodically connects to a server to download the guide data. So it only finds out the schedule has changed as and when it connects.

Check your guide after 7pm - Casualty should be there as a new episode.

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Yes they originally said Sunday at 9:20 then they changed it to Saturday at 9:00 which is when it would have been shown had the football not overrun.

After the overrun, they cancelled it on the Saturday and rescheduled it to today, Sunday at 9:10.

PS The TiVo guide was updated today and, in fact, the original air date set to today so that TiVo series links worked OK.

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It is now 8.34pm and TiVo EPG still says 'Death in Paradise' at 9pm on BBC1. Pathetic for this day and age

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You can set a manuel recording on tivo!

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That smacks of going back to the days of VHS recorders.

How have Sky, Freview, Freesat etc coped with this well advertised change of time of Casualty?

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I have long said about UK cable is that they have never got the basics right in their entire history.

All very well having bells and whistles attached, but if you can't change channels fast enough, or the programme guide is slow loading etc, its pointless. They, at VM towers, just do not GET IT. Basics. That is why Sky is better. It's faster and easier to use, even though tivo is more powerful in the features department.

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To adult insult to injury, my V+ has a correct EPG! Casualty at 9.10pm. TiVo is still saying it is Death in Paradise even though Casualty is just starting

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TiVo updates only 4 times a day.

With others reporting that their EPG has been corrected, you should always initiate a network connection if your own box has not updated on its own.

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So TiVo is just for people who want to constantly mess about with the settings then? My understanding is that this change in schedule was known about well over 24 hours in advance. My TiVo did not update. My 'old fashioned' V+ did update. Fact. I am saying no more.

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The whole of the last two Saturday evenings have been wrong on the V+ for Channel 4. Oddly, the +1 variant appears to have been correct :confused:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...out-synch.html

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Can you go back in the guide and check all the BBC1 channels (101, 108, 851, 861-4, and 858 if you have it) and see if any of them updated?
Also, which region are you in?

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I agree, it sucks. They catered for those who wanted reminders even though it wasn't really a feature that needed adding. So why can't they develop and add something that actually a lot of people would like to see added and serves more functionality than stupid reminders. A TiVo has 3 tuners, so a reminder is not really needed.

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Sorry Mark, but I use 'stupid reminders' more often than I've had problems with the EPG being incorrect. The reminder feature was a definate oversight, accepting their mistake and adding the feature was a good move by VM.

Cheers

Grim

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Sky+hd uses reminders but that seems to be able to update correctly,as does Freeviews EPG too, it's laziness from whoever operates virgin medias EPG that's the problem.

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Couple of issues of note this week, swtsmbo recorded Afterlife the other night and the recording stopped a few minutes short, not sure why, luckily it was available on catch-up.
Syfy+1 had a 2 hour film listed as running from 20:00 till 01:00 Thursday or Friday and had her confused when it finished at 22:00 and Star Trek came on HAHA, on the v+ by the way.

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Four updates a day are all well and good, but, for example, during a world cup or Wimbledon, shouldn't there be somebody waiting to see if there's extra time or Murray's been moved to BBC One to give a live update? These short notice epg changes are generally predictable I would have thought.

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Morning all another quiet week ahead i'd imagine until the world cup finishes....

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But the updates are initiated by the Tivo and can't predict what to do.

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The impression I got from Spiderplant based on his "wait until after 7pm" advice was that the four epg updates are scheduled? At the very least with a world cup on couldn't TiVo be set to updatevat, say, 1850 and 2250 (give or take 5 or 10 minutes). Which would be generally when extra time would be starting if required. It must be live sport overrunning which contributes most to this issue.

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That unfortunately was bad advice as peoples' four updates each day are at different times.

If someone advises that their epg has been updated to fix something, like this Casualty re-schedule, you should:

1. Check whether your epg has been updated also and, if not,

2. Initiate a network connection, don't wait on your next scheduled one.

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The number of times that TiVo updates has been increased since it was launched because of the issue of events moving.

However I would expect it would require a significant change to how TiVo works to introduce a fully dynamic EPG - remember than any change to what is in the EPG, even something as simple as which Episode is being broadcast, can cause TiVo to review all it's recordings (planned and suggestions) and wishlists for conflicts, and then to search out alternatives.

Changes to the Sky+HD or Freeview EPGs won't have as much cross-dependency.

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True, but I suggest that a dynamic EPG would be appreciated more than reminders.

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until the £5 charge is removed I will never consider TIVO, if they start making additional new channels TIVO only then that would force my hand but until then

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Reminders were easy to do as they are just basically recordings with a pop up, so don't really change the core Tivo experience, so can be Virgin Media specific.

Doing a dynamic EPG would be a core TiVo change, and would have to be done worldwide for all versions of TiVo, along with major changes to the TiVo datacentres to support the extra traffic.

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The £5 has been rolled into the bundle price for a couple of years now, in both the previous Collections and the current bundles.

You'd only get charged it if you just swapped out your V+ HD for TiVo, but as you going to recontracted for TiVo anyway, you'd probably get a better bundle deal at the same time, which would likely cancel the £5 out anyway.

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I'm one of those people who likes to record an entire series of shows and watch them back to back once the series is complete. This, I thought, is what TiVo should excel at. However, the lack of a dynamic EPG means that my viewing in this way is sometimes sabotaged by overrunning or rescheduled programmes and there's no hope of going back to re-record the episode that TiVo has missed after weeks have elapsed. Very annoying.

If the lack of a dynamic EPG means that TiVo is incapable of moving the recording to match what is actually happening would it not be possible for the box to somehow be told that a show is likely to have been missed due to an overrun and to record it at the next available opportunity? For such a supposedly smart box of tricks it seems stupid sometimes.

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absolutely I never use reminders at all

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Rumour: Media Boy HQ given new Sky prices info.

Base on info I have seen Sky price rises are set to go up as following (Virgin Media prices not confirmed yet only seen price list for Sky viewers)

-Movies +£0.50
-Sports +£2.50
-Movies and Sports +£3.00

I have been told that the rest of the Sky Prices will be reveal on July 1st.

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But many do Dave....

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And several posters said competition was going to keep prices down....

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yes Den but that should not stop VM doing a dynamic EPG


competition always leads to price rises Den and we all know that's way it staying only ever going up

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Yes a dynamic EPG would be nice Dave.

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Seems a bit steep for sport; dreading the virgin price increase now more than ev

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Don't be surprised if its goes up by nearly a fiver.

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I say it will be about £3.50-£4.

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I gave that time as I knew 100% of TiVos should have picked up that update by 7pm. I'm interesting in finding out why oliver's didn't. Maybe his local BBC1 variant got missed, or his TiVo is having a problem calling back.

The callbacks are deliberately staggered to spread the load on the servers, but every Tivo should have picked up that update by 7pm. Both of mine had it when I checked at around 4pm.

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Any rumours of a TiVo update? The damn thing is so slow!

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Is it possible to arrange more updates during things like World Cups which are always going to have over runs?

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Maybe - Maybe not.

That date is within July 14th to July 19th.

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:hyper:

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You can now un-hyper :D nothing is set to happen tonight on Virgin Media.

May reveal the Sky Sports HD Channels launch date sometime by July 11th - if I can.

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Nearly there now. If she is right, only another 18 days to go!

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:ghugs:

The date I have seen have 'day' that the end.

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If the Sky Sports Collection hits the £30 per month mark on VM without HD, I reckon it will lose many subscribers. Sky Sports in HD will then cost more on its own that many people's bundles! :shocked:

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I see $ky are desperately trying to get the price hikes in before they lose the champions league rights. Here's several moaning points i want to make.

sky sports will be roughly 30 quid a month now AND YET you have to pay extra on top of that to see the sports in HD. how can they still justify that?!

secondly VM will have gone up by about 9 quid in the last 12 months and i've received sod all in terms of television acquisations except the ability to pay 6 quid extra a month for netflix.

I hate companies and i hate the world. Grrr humbug.

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thanks Ben but for me costs is the deciding factor and when i looked at collections and even phoned them up to see if I can get a better deal costwise the best they can do is always about £4 more than what i am on; Yes i would get better broadband and yes on the phone but as I dont even plug the phone in and speed i have on the lowest tier is perfectly adequate for what i do then its not worth me for the extra cash to pay more

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It wasn't an oversight, Grim, it's just not how the TIVO was originally designed to work. Speaking for myself, I have never used my STB as an alarm clock!

I think Virgin are to be commended for listening to those of you who wanted this feature, but not so happy about the changes that were made to the 'Suggestions' folder, which is no longer useful to me. I hope they put it back to where it was with the next update. Those who have railed against the way it worked before simply have to turn it off!

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The addition of Sky Atlantic would make it acceptable to me!

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Trouble is, we've not really got competition in the consumer marketplace yet, just competition for sports rights. That being said, BT's entry has helped in one way ie that Sky is offering discounted/freee broadband to its Sky Sports subscribers. For a lot of people, the cost of the alternative sports provider fell to £0 when BT took over from ESPN.
Trouble is, we've not really got much consumer marketplace competition as BT are not allowed to sell Sky Sports on YouView, TalkTalk is not interested in HD and VM only covers half the country!

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Sorry?

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It was an joke.

Mon - day
Fri - day
Sun - day

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If true, they can justify it because people are willing to pay for it. Why charge less if the same or a similar number of people will pay more? Why would you take a lower salary for the same job if your employer was willing to pay you more?

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That's right, we need 'proper' competition. I think it's coming, and within the next couple of years (probably sooner than later) I would not be at all surprised to see some new non-sports channels starting courtesy of BT.

Liberty Global seem to have come to the same conclusion as VM and so I don't think their policy will change much. Instead, I would expect to see new streaming apps to be added for cable viewers, similar to Netflix.

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I think Sky are milking us for all we have got. What they don't seem to realise is that this is breeding resentment and when Sky subscribers get the ability to jump ship for a similar or better service, they will have no qualms about doing so.

If I were Sky I'd be worrying about the likely competition in the future. They should start thinking about that and start lowering prices, creating altogether better value for what is essentially a good product, to render that competition more difficult to establish.

I do admire Sky's achievements, but I wouldn't trust that company further than I could throw them. That's my opinion, anyway. The latest fiasco in which all the GOT series have come off the Now TV box is just one example of this. Not a good way to treat your customers. I was almost sold on that, too, just started buttering up my wife!