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I can see padding becoming a big issue, just had a peak at the beginning of some of the suggestions that Tivo has recorded and a bunch of them start a few seconds into the show. Even one of my series link shows seem to have missed a few minutes at the beginning.
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2) Yes, I currently have XL TV, L Broadband and M Phone 3) Yep. 4) Yeah, a few years ago when I was on VIP (when it cost £85) |
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Not going to bother now, fed up with speaking to offshore! |
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Ah that's OK then. Panic over. Install tomorrow can't wait. Although Zantarous pointed out an issue still. Quote:
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Im Confused about costs on my Contract
Got our new Contract and am having TiVo installed on Wednesday but i think the prices on this new contract are wrong. This is what it has on it Monthly service charges £65.10 Other items £149.95 I take it the £149.95 is the box but why is it showing at £65.10 for Monthly charges? We will have Tivo box and normal box and VHD box so i think they have got that wrong as we were paying around £110 month with the Tivo box. |
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This sounds really basic but I could with some advice to stop a recording you are watching.
When I am watching a recording, if I decide to stop the recording and press the stop key, I am presented with a screen with the options to “Resume Playing, Delete Now, Bonus Features, Explore this show, More Options” and the recording seems to be still playing in the picture box top right. What seems to be missing is the obvious option of “stop programme”! The only way to exit seems to be to press the TV key so have I missed something here which seems really basic? One of the consequences though is that when you do go back to the recording you start where you last watched which I thought was a feature Tivo didn’t have but is exactly what we want, rather than having to guess and use the forward/15minute jump keys to find out where you stopped before. I am still fighting a rearguard action with my wife to defend my Tivo purchase. My family want to go back to the V+ as the UI was simpler and used more of the green/red/blue/yellow buttons to provide instruction for you e.g. page up/down were the green/red keys on V+ while you have to use the channel up/down to do the same on Tivo. It’s a battle but I will defend my Tivo purchase to the end! While Tivo has many great features, there certainly seems to be a weakness in usability design and something to enhance over time would help. One other query if anybody can advise. If you watching a programme, you press the OK button to bring up the mini guide which my wife uses to scroll through channels. The only annoying thing is that if you stop for some time the mini guide will eventually disappear and if you go back to it again it returns to the begging of the channel lost when previously you may have already been though a good proportion of the list and so have to scroll down again. On V+ once you brought up the mini guide it stayed there until you decide to delete it. So another annoying niggle for my wide to have a dig at me so is there any way to stop the mini guide disappearing after around 20 seconds or so as it does now? |
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Double check they are not shown separately, if not I'd give them a ring. |
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I am trying to work out if there is a way to keep the mini guide up for longer to. My Tivo was installed yesterday so lots of playing and learning to do.
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Yes, I didn't think realise this would work (because it didn't on the original Series1 model) but I just tried it once and found that it did :D Quote:
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So is pressing the record button correct still? At work now so cannot check myself! If it is the record button then this is an example of the usability issue since just giving an option to "stop" is all that is required. My wife is also missing the yellow button to delete a recording, she doesn't like having to go through menus to do a basic task, make it simpler please VM! |
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I had my tivo installed last Friday and am experiencing the same frustrations as you. Every time my wife encounters an issue with the interface I get that look and the same question follows " Did you know about this before you ordered this piece of c**p?". I'm sure you understand what I mean.:rolleyes: |
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The lack of a stop function is odd. The best I can suggest is to use pause instead.
Press Clear to delete a recording. Much quicker than yellow on the V+ :) |
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Surely just having a "stop" option in the menu must be a requirement to add as it is so confusing if the mini view top right shows your recording continuing, can anybody from VM comment if they know anything? I'll try the pause but as stated, to exit I just pressed the stop and then TV button and that put the programme into pause anyway from the look of things. |
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Just got a call on my mobile to have the V+ relocated to another room for free with no extra monthly charge on TV XL (Not VIP) :)
Now I just need to get the V+ exchanged for a new one because it crashes twice a day! |
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Well TIVO was installed yestarday and I'm glad I upgraded - already getting used to new funtions - I do like the option to bring up mini guide while you watching TV and press the blue button to narrow your search - HD option I really like.
A quick question but does anyone know if TIVO has a reminder option - I was trying to set programmes to remind but seem either I'm missing a trick or TIVO does not have the option to set reminders. |
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Aaarrggghhh! This one is going in the "my pet hates" thread ;):p:
You don't need reminders. You never did! Where you would normally set a reminder, just set it to record instead!! |
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Not sure if this has been posted and sorry if it has?
http://shop.virginmedia.com/existing...iscover_TiVo_B |
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Dont tell people what they need.:mad: |
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Scott arrived at 7:45 this morning and was driving back down the road at 8:35. Teflon install. Well done VM. Off to play now. See you in a week.
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Not much use if I want to watch live AND TiVo epg doesn't even show what time the program starts...... :mad: :td: :rolleyes: Why would I want to record everything, some programs I want to watch live, others from recording to skip adds etc. Sometimes I even want to watch a live program because it is live ie the news, sport, question time, even some people want to watch Corrie etc as soon as it airs....... :D |
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Can a VM staffer please explain what the criteria is for getting a call for the free multi-room offer when upgrading to TiVo?
TiVo installed today, but missed a call from VM yesterday which I hope was going to give me the offer. They didn't call back. When I called to confirm my installation time (glad I did - it was actually a different slot to the one told to me) the CS person told me abotu the offer and gave me a number to ring. I rang it and was passed from person to person saying no offer existed. Interested to hear to logic behind it and what I can do now. Feel like I missed out on what other people are getting offered... |
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I had my box installed today - in at 8:30, out at 8:55. Nice and quick and, more imprtantly, nice and early so I have the rest of the day to play and don't have to worry about missing the doorbell!
Liking what I see so far. It is a bit of a leap from the V+ that will take a little getting used to. The only issue I have found is how to stop YouTube videos playing once you have started them without going back to the home screen but I'll keep digging. Now over to the Harmony thread to program the remote.... |
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I'm not "getting at" anyone and I'm not "telling them what to do". I simply stating my own POV. |
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The reminder function is used very often on my v+ and is very useful indeed if you are prone to forget exact starting times it switches for you.:) |
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You really shouldn't been telling other people what they don't need from their PVR, especially when their legacy PVR supported that functionalty. |
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Reminders are totally not needed at all anymore. They are an old and redundant feature from the days before people had PVRs.
Before the V+ was around reminders were the only way to ensure you didn't miss a programme. Now we have multiple tuners and a large hard drive they really aren't needed. Also if its a show or event that you really want to see you shouldn't be forgetting about it just before it starts ;) If you desperately need a reminder that the news is on at 6 then there is something wrong :P its on that time everyday lol. However you could always set an alarm or calender reminder on your mobile phone? |
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I agree with the other posters, don`t want to record, I want to watch some events live hence the great feature of the old boxes of reminders and switching channels when the program starts
Going to miss my reminders when TIVO is installed later |
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Received the email below from Virgin this morning with regards to the 500gb Tivo. Just wondering if this deal is the same one they have already mentioned (£49 Tivo, £40 activation/install fee) or if it is going to be something new. I realise most people on this thread now have the 1tb version, so wouldn't have receveived this email.
It would be nice if they could cut out the activation fee, as it I can't afford the 1tb version of the box, so anything to help in todays current climate would be a bonus. "Thanks again for entering our prize draw to win one of our amazing TiVo® boxes. We know you didn't manage to get a free box this time round, but we've got something up our sleeves that we think you'll like. We're busy rustling up an offer just for you, based on our 500GB TiVo box. It holds around 250 hours of standard TV, and we're launching it in May. So, keep your eyes peeled for our exclusive offer. We'll pop it in the post for you soon, with a unique offer code that you'll need to quote. While you're waiting, take another look at all the amazing things that Virgin Media TV powered by TiVo can do". |
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Well in my opinion reminders are an old redundant feature from before VM had a pvr and aren't needed. If there is something you rally really want to see, either record it or remember to watch it.
No doubt if there is enough people whinging about them VM and TiVo may consider adding them. TiVo doesn't have them so they would need to be added as a new feature. |
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Is anybody aware of the rationale used by VM when deciding who gets free multi-room and who doesn't?
My own guess is that those that are looking for a box swap are more likely to be given the offer than those that up-front ask to retain their original box. |
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It has already been raised to TiVo as an issue. Meanwhile pause-stop is a easy workaround. |
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Hi Lee Mc,
I have Tivo installed and received this e-mail also. Reading it I think all those who entered draw for free Tivo will get this e-mail. Hopefully this will be a special offer and not what has been seen ie. £49 + £49 + £3. If it is VM will have more unhappy customers complaining on this site |
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First class install by the vm tech, took 22 minutes all in. Put the v+ box upstairs for me, premium hd channels swapped to the tivo ok. Have a play around with it tonight when the mrs has gone to bed.
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press the right button so the order didn't go though what a waste of an afternoon off, I made a compliant but Virgin didn't want to do anything about the missed install, Hope to get it sorted tomorrow if they turn up !! |
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Keep us posted and please let us know if you are able to play past programmes directly from the guide. It is an issue currently for some of us. Enjoy!:cleader: |
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Just had our TIVO box installed today. Very nice young man fitted it and so far all seems fine with it. SD picture is as good as it was on the V+ box, not 'soft' as some people have said. Still playing with it so haven't really got anything else to say at the moment.
However one thing I would mention to anyone else who is keeping their V+ box and moving it to another room, make sure you ask them to bring along an HDMI cable or buy one. We had our old Samsung box replaced with our V+ box, but have no picture as apparently it's set to only work with an HDMI cable, so now have to go out and buy one and hope that it works :shocked: |
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Personally I never really saw the point of reminders on the V+ (and was always getting irritated when I accidentally got the Set Reminder screen up and had to get out of it again :) ).
I always thought one of the points to a PVR was to put control of your viewing habits into your own hand, and to (start to) take control away from the broadcasters schedules. Easy solution is to simply record everything (as others have said), watch the recording 'as live' and remove it afterwards. That way you can watch it when your ready to watch it, not when the broadcaster says you should watch it. In the example of the 6 O Clock news, if your not ready (for whatever reason) until 6:01 then it becomes the 6:01 news, or the 6:02 news etc - its at your control (all we need is the time machine and we can have the 5:59 news option!). In the example of the cricket, if you miss the first few overs, just watch the recording from the beginning, and if theres a break in play, fast forward to catch up - its only a problem if you have an alternative live feed available as the scores won't match. At the end of the day though, its a case of Each to their Own - everyone has their own preferences. |
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Please let us know if you can view past programmes directly from the EPG. It is an outstanding issue for some of us.:( |
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I've never used reminders, ever. But it doesn't take much imagination to see how useful they can be to a lot of people. Boz |
well if its a live show I really want to see I will make sure I remember to watch it.:)
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If you want to watch Corrie, do it five minutes in then you can skip the ads. That's what I meant. |
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Enjoy and let us know how you get with your new toy.:p: Don't spend much on the HDMI lead. They are very cheap on eBay and fairly cheap in any of the major supermarkets. They perform just as good as one costing much more.:D |
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Watching live TV completely negates the need for a DVR. Why spend £150-200 on something that you don't need if you still want to sit down when the schedulers tell you that "Corrie" is on :confused: |
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The fastest way to stop playback does seem to be to press the TV button, otherwise if you back out to the intermediate menu, you have to also back out of that menu before it'll stop (( I can only assume this is a bug as I wouldn't expect many people would want to peruse extra options in the middle of a programme, whicle watching it PiP).
If you made it close to the end of the prog. though (I think its in the last 5 mins) it jumps straight to a Delete/Keep screen). |
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At least you won't miss the start like you would if you had only set a reminder but had then been distracted by - for example - a phone call, or someone at the door. What good has the reminder done you then 'cos you'd've completely missed the first 20 mins or whatever. |
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But I can empathise with others who would find the feature useful and miss it. But hopefully even those people will find the benefits of TiVo will help them overlook it. Boz |
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as for the example of the 6PM news as a reminder, we have to switch to SD to view the local news after HD. With no reminders on TIVO currently we are going to have to record two programmes, rather than a single reminder We want TIVO for the storeage space and recommendations The lack of reminders and red button are the two things that are currently missing from TIVO |
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Can the menu system still be accessed whilst you are watching a recording? Or are you required to exit like the V+?
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Seriously though I always record cricket
Cuts out the very annoying ads between overs! while playing catch up. Plus watching the Ashes a reminder to turn over in the early hours wasn't a lot of good - If I was up, I'd remember why! :D:D:D Never used reminders, have to agree with Carl, with three tuners why do you need to be told when to watch a show ! |
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Unless I'm missing something there doesn't seem to be a way to get to a programs info page from the epg if it's currently showing?
Saw a film on sky movies I wanted to record that was nearly over, and as it's sky movies I knew it'd be on again, so wanted to go to the info page to find a future showing to record, but you don't seem to be able to do it? Info does nothing, and ok switches to the channel. Had to manually find the late night showing which kinda defeats the purpose of having tivo! |
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Simple matter of the fact is there should be an option. Either use it or dont. At the moment theres no option! |
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The more I read this thread the more I keep talking myself out of TIVO. It just doesn't look ready. So many basic features left out or problematic. Can anyone else confirm that the HDD NEVER, EVER spins down even in standby?
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I stopped watching TV by schedule way back in 2002 when I got my S1 Tivo. I think that's my (and others!) main point. Quote:
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I will very often as others have said watch another channel whilst waiting for sport to start letting the v+ do the reminding, as paying customers some will find it useful others will not, i am in the useful camp either way supplying the feature means customers can choose to use it or not if the feature is not there custmers have very little choice.:) |
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What I meant was that you will always know the news is on at 6 so a reminder just seems silly for that if you know you want to see it. Then again you could just go to the BBC News channel and watch the news at any time of the day. |
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Yes there are several features missing relative to the V+ (but many more new features and benefits) or bugs but this is relative. I've posted a few issues myself but overall feel I have made the right decision to get one. |
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Yes, the hdd is always working, buffering* the three tuners. (* Nearly typed double-g there instead of double-f!) |
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Just had tivo installed today. No problems. BUT how do I get rid of the annoying beep when pressing a button on the remote control.
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