Re: TiVo
 

You haven't seen the state of my pram; no toys left at all! :D

Re: TiVo
 

i got my tivo installed yesterday morning im loving it :)

Re: TiVo
 

I beleive everyone is entitled to their view whether good or bad as we live in a democracy but before this week we were all left in the dark by Virgins poor communication and vague past press releases about tivo.

Re: TiVo
 

as ive stated before i feel we are still in the dark to a large extent as we have no idea on why certain groups of existing customers are getting contacted and why some have not had a thing ....

the statement last week was ok in as far it did say VM have something up their sleeve but since then we have had a customer who wasnt actually installed been offered tivo and other long term customers not getting anything. Add to that someone did post they had the £149 offer after the statement and was told on the phone there would be another 'lotto' draw and he could get a refund if his name was in that

only VM know what system they are using and IMHO it isnt working with customers being called several times even after signing on the dotted line in the first call while other long term customers read of peeps getting offered tivo before they even have the basics installed

for a company in the internet business they should have seen that there would be confusion at best among its customers and worse ... poor show from VM IMHO

Re: TiVo
 

Agree,I aint perticular bothered about tivo to me its just paying £149 for a bigger hard drive and as for the £3.00 per month charge(what the hell is that for) probably for just using the apps i can do that on my pc on the broadband i already pay for.The fact that some people are getting it for free(well done) that just makes me more anti-tivo,(sky offer free hd box to all there customers on sky + not just a few)If i do decide to pay out that sort of money i will give it to Sky for there 1tb box.Far more hd channels(and always will have ) and £49 cheaper(Sky offered me for £100 self install),Big fan of vm but yet again communication shocking and the free/pay tivo is a farce.But thats my opinion and know doubt i will be accused of moaning by some on here ,But i wont lose any sleep over that ;)

Re: TiVo
 

Meh..

Tivo has lost its appeal because of the staggered release. Knowing that by the time I may get it it will be almost about 6 months since first release to staff etc.

Its been promised for too long and talked about too much its just lost its hype for me and the extra £3 plus the price hike in April means I will never get Tivo.

I came over to VM from sky in December on a 6 month half price deal that is not actually half price. VIP50 Is around £100 so half price would be around £50 but I'm paying £75.

Now they want £180+£3 extra a month plus a £8 a month price increase...Why did I EVER LEAVE SKY.....

Re: TiVo
 

I agree with you, as soon as my contract ends i will be going to sky. The fact that i've been with cable from when it was first installed in my road, have always been on the top tier services,never missed a payment and never been to retentions for a better deal. I'm paying virgin the best part of £200 a month for vip50 with 3 boxes and 2 mobiles. as far as i'm concerned i'm one of their best customers but to ask me for a further £149 + £3 a month makes me feel second class, i look in the mirror sometimes to see if i've got mug written on my forehead. :(

Re: TiVo
 

Wouldn't it say "gum"?;)

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:rofl:

Re: TiVo
 

Welcome to the club :)

Re: TiVo
 

My partner is in the club as well:D


Whoops sorry wrong club:erm:

Re: TiVo
 

There no doubt that Virgins communication over Tivo and other things has been nothing short of amateurishness in the last 3 to 9 months.

Re: TiVo
 

If you want, would you be able to give us a few sneaky peeks on video of performance? (VOD, Apps etc.)

:)

Re: TiVo
 

What communication? The only info i get is reading forums like this, the average customer is completely in the dark.

Re: TiVo
 

Must admit I'm confused with there whole approach to TIVO , seems like a lot of us existing customers will only see it in April when we can ring and order it.

Re: TiVo
 

So Sky offering you a new customer a 1Tb box for £149 less than existing customers is a good thing? Seems that VM are not the only ones with skewed pricing. You can't compare the pricing of the latest 1Tb box with one of the older Sky boxes either that are "free" either. My guess is that in a year or so VM will be offering a cut down tivo box free or nearly free as well. They will have to if they are going to move their whole platform over to tivo. p\robably smaller hard drive and less tivo features I would guess.

Re: TiVo
 

There is the thing.....

(i know your post was not to me.)

But if I do stay with VM I will get Tivo for free anyway. I'm decided, instead of £189 + £36(12 times £3 a month) +£40 install I'm getting Sky-hd installed for 1 year with 1 pack and HD.

That way I will have 3 tuners on my v+ and 2 on my sky+hd so the potential to record 5 channels....Beat that Tivo lol.

Re: TiVo
 

TiVo is so much more than that though :)

Re: TiVo
 

That is the thing with being an early adopter though isn't it? My guess anyway is it will be many years before you get a fully featured 1Tb box for free and as I understand it the price will be £149, whether that will have an install price on top I'm not sure.
BTW if you paid VM for two V+ boxes you could have six tuners without paying two subscriptions. :)

Re: TiVo
 

No Tivo's main selling point is the dynamic never miss a recording epg. Yours doesnt have it its just a 1tb box with apps. Now boxes have always had apps.

GAMES, SHOPPING, even DATING AND CHATROOMS.

I will be pleased to take Tivo when its rolled out to all and enjoy VM as it is right now untill then. After if I'm honest the VM platform as it stands is as agood as I need it to be.

I'm not anti Tivo but the hype has blown it self out for me with this drawn out release and little bit of info about what Tivo DOES NOT do .

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I know but since I joined VM in december my kids and Mrs keep whining about the channels they have lost. I was telling them the Tivo will make up for it but lets face it..It wont.

So tivo or skyhd with one or 2 packs for an extra £70 over a year? Like i said I'm sure i will love Tivo when i get it rolled out ot me as part of VM's global rollout.

Re: TiVo
 

That's fair enough. Don't bother with Tivo and save the money. It's the same for any piece of electronics. Most people seem to be moaning they haven't got one yet. Including me although to be fair I didn't really think I would habve one yet.

Re: TiVo
 

Must admit mate I have a skyhd box still hooked up , just now on freesat and the HD lineup is far superior to VM.

If you take 6 mix with Sky you'll get these over VM although you have to pay £10.25 for Sky and nothing for VM.

Sky Atlantic HD , Universal HD , Sky Arts 1 HD , Sky Arts 2 HD , Sky Sports News HD , Rush HD , Good Food HD , Nickelodeon HD , Disney XD HD , Sky News HD , ITV2 HD , ITV3 HD , ITV4 HD , Nat Geo Wild HD , History HD , Bio HD , CI HD , Eden HD.

Re: TiVo
 

The freesat HD line up is superior?

Edit Ah you mean if you paid their sub and HD charge?

Re: TiVo
 

your loss :PP:

Re: TiVo
 

We still have our skyHD box hooked up but I put it in my oldest daughters room as she watchs FIZZ the music channel she gets about 5 or so HD channels although she also gets E4 HD which I dont think shes meant to.

But anyway back to Tivo lol....

Re: TiVo
 

I I will always be loyal to Virgin but l have to say on Tivo the way this has been played out since December has been very poor to say the least as they led us to believe that we were all going to get it much sooner than what is happening at the present time, the communication from Virgin has been very poor in this.

Re: TiVo
 

LOL...

No loss APPERANTLY i will get Tivo from VM just not for a year or so.

Re: TiVo
 

That may be so but the main problem seems to be just not enough boxes to meet demand. As somebody who is waiting for one I would like to know when that situation is likely to improve.

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Will you get a fully featured 1Tb box though? I doubt it. If you are happy with that and willing to wait then you are doing the right thing.

Re: TiVo
 

Here here my friend 20000 pre reg isn't a massive number , Sky had over three times that for it's HD box launch and not all them 20000 will take TIVo in fact probably a quarter wont.

Re: TiVo
 

.


People need to get things into perspective.


Having a TiVo isn't the most important thing in your life at the moment.






















Having £149 handy to pay for it is.................:PP:

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The money is ready pal dont you worry just can't seem to get the call.

Re: TiVo
 

he he :D

Re: TiVo
 

At last someone else that talks sense:D:D:D

Re: TiVo
 

Does anyone think there could be some sort of TIVO announcement for existing customers on valentines day just thinking after the post some time ago of the VM van.

Re: TiVo
 

Do you mean on the lines of:

1- We will never keep anything from you again.

2- We will remain faithful.

3- If we have any problems we will just need to talk them through.

4- Also finally we do love you and we would do anything to try and stop you from leaving us.

Sorry just cracking up here:D:D:D

Re: TiVo
 

Yes LOL :D Can't remember the slogan on the van.

Re: TiVo
 

'You Had Me At Tivo..'

Rumour has it that if you tell them to 'Show You The TiVo' then you get a special offer. NB. This is of course entirely untrue.

Re: TiVo
 

Still not had the call. Is it the case that if you are an exisiting customer you still have to wait for the phone to ring or is there a number you can call?

Re: TiVo
 

Pretty sure you have to wait for the call.

Re: TiVo
 

.


Old Sky Digital TiVo ad.......

http://www.youtube.com/v/gI_wip8o4FU?autoplay=1



Just for you series 1 guys :D

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.



The "true" story of where TiVo came from....................



Its from outer space :shocked:


http://www.youtube.com/v/gI_wip8o4FU?autoplay=1 :eek:

Re: TiVo
 

VM will contact you, you can't contact the TiVo Team.

Re: TiVo
 

Was looking before at some of the vids of VM TiVo in action and I must admit in my opinion the HD interface looks far better than the Sky HD epg.

Re: TiVo
 

Not sure I believe this or not but a member of the Tivo team, in Manchester I think, told me that all Pre-reg customers will get a call within the nex couple of days. He said that they had almost finished the list and that if you haven't received a call it will be by the end of Monday 14th Feb.

I still haven't had a call, I am on the VIP50 package and registered on the day the website launched. I think the whole pre-launch scenario has sucked big time but it is their piece of kit and they can do it how they want. Looking forward to getting TiVo eventually though;)

Re: TiVo
 

[QUOTE=Big-Ted;35173097].


Old Sky Digital TiVo ad.......

http://www.youtube.com/v/gI_wip8o4FU?autoplay=1



Just for you series 1 guys :D[COLOR="Silver"]

That's not an ad, that's the startup sequence.

The ads were horrible, and go some way to understanding why Tivo didn't want to deal with sky this time around...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGPndhUYxmA

Re: TiVo
 

[QUOTE=TonyHoyle;35173173]I remember that advert..Its from 2001 when Tivo was considered new technology. WOW was that 10 years ago?

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that may be true but in my opinion Sky has much more hd CONTENT and channels than VM.

So how many hours a day do you spend watching the HD epg?

SKY ATALNTIC HD

Re: TiVo
 

[QUOTE=Marcus125;35173177]Which is nothing to do with Tivo, which is the title of this thread, and what mupetman is discussing. There is a thread about Sky Atlantic.

Re: TiVo
 

[QUOTE=ahardie;35173183]You're right and apologise. I'm a long time Sky customer recently come over to VM.

I'm just bitter that you have half the HD channels and a lot less SD channels. I came over for TIVO and yet it seems your tivo doesnt have dynamic EPG...THEN ITS NOT TIVO YOU FOOLS LOL........

On Sky I'm used to having a dynamic epg so for ex sky users the VM tivo is a step backwards.

But anyway I'm just bitter that I left sky ignore me.

Re: TiVo
 

I work in the Business side of the company yes, but I still have access to all the same info on the intranet and do have a TiVo box.

Re: TiVo
 

nm

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thanks DF:)

Re: TiVo
 

We on the residential side can access business information, mobile and even national plus a lot more information if we care to look, but all the main information is routinely emailed to everyone in a mass mailshot with hyperlinks even if we have need to know about it.

Re: TiVo
 

[QUOTE=Marcus125;35173190]How is TIVO a step back from a SkyHD box.

Re: TiVo
 

Sky hd has a dynamic epg...Tivo on VM doesnt..SIMPLES.

Re: TiVo
 

TiVo connects to the network and constantly updates it data, so effectively it's a dynamic epg and more likely to pick up and program changes.

Re: TiVo
 

V+ doesn't have a Dynamic epg , it's never failed me yet. The TIVO is light years ahead in every other way.

Re: TiVo
 

The EPG is managed and controlled by TiVo, so I'm not sure what you mean here? It's worked perfectly for me and hasn't missed a recording or cut off the beginning or end, but hey what do I know :PP:

How is TiVo a step backwards? Sky's EPG is poor compared with TiVo.

---------- Post added at 21:46 ---------- Previous post was at 21:44 ----------

indeed. I've seen TiVo pick up late changes very quickly ahead of V+.

Re: TiVo
 

So you swapped from Sky to get tivo which never in the past had a dynamic epg. Have you ever used a VM tivo or even seen one in real life. If not as the epg updates much better than the current V+ wouldn't it be better to hold your opinion until you have?

Re: TiVo
 

Don't feed the troll.

Re: TiVo
 

Well if you happy and it has never failed then maybe it is dynamic and I stand corrected.

Like I said before I'm not anti Tivo I just wish I had stayed with Sky. I'm getting bitter lol.

Re: TiVo
 

Sorry.

Re: TiVo
 

I had SkyHD for a few years and can honestly say I preferred the original SkyHD epg even though it wasnt HD plus the Sky box only has two tuners and a smaller hard drive than TiVo.

Re: TiVo
 

In fairness I don't think you understand tivo or not the VM tivo. You said "No Tivo's main selling point is the dynamic never miss a recording epg". The VM tivo software and epg is no different to any other tivo software, that apparently you signed up for. Like I said you should wait until you have a chance to read real life reports of tivo. The initial reports are encouraging and the epg is much superior to existing V+ boxes.

Re: TiVo
 

Did I MENTION I joined VM for Tivo as I have a S1 tivo?

Re: TiVo
 

I really don't think you have anything to worry about then. Reading the reports from S1 tivo owners on a tivo forum , who now have VM tivo, they appear to be perfectly happy with it. As far as i can see it has everything the S1 owners loved about tivo. It's an improvement over the S1 with nothing missing from what I have read. In addition it has (or will have) three tuners, networking, and apps.
The thing that surprises me is that some are actually saying it is faster than the S1. That surprises me.

Re: TiVo
 

Well thats something for me to look forward to then when Tivo is eventually rolled out to all customers.

Its too late for me now lol..I got a sky reconnected. Turns out if I just used my old sky+HD box I got a really good offer. Or I could of had a new install with new box but not got a deal.

Re: TiVo
 

The feedback from S1 owners is very good indeed

---------- Post added at 10:34 ---------- Previous post was at 10:31 ----------

Ah so you went for 2nd best in the end, nevermind eh?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/03/72.gif

Re: TiVo
 

Good luck with that then Marcus.

Re: TiVo
 

Right now my Mrs is watching The Dog Whisperer Uk in HD. She will take that over a EPG. More importantly they will all stop moaning at me for turning sky off lol.

Re: TiVo
 

Yeah, good luck. Hope it's what he's looking for :)

---------- Post added at 10:41 ---------- Previous post was at 10:40 ----------

Isn't that on Nat Geo?

I take it you aren't the remote control king in your house then? :D

Re: TiVo
 

I just pay the bills, I have no say over the remote. An as I have an 18 month contract VM wont let me out of looks like I get the best of both worlds. An maybe within that 18 months I get a free tivo on a normal VHD box. Although the VM guy did say it will be a lot cheaper to get out of my vm contract after 6 months

An were watching NatGeo wild HD

Re: TiVo
 

The Dog Whisperer UK is showing right now in HD on Nat Geo Wild HD which of course isn't available on VM, I think that's what he meant.

Re: TiVo
 

Good luck in what ever you decided to do anyway :)

Vm are going on another HD spending spree this year so keep an eye out ;)

Re: TiVo
 

I guess thats coming soon eh lol......

Re: TiVo
 

Re: TiVo
 

Actually Tivo never had a dynamic epg. The box called in once a day to download and unpack new data which would take 30 mins or so, any schedule changes wouldn't be picked up until that call. It often missed shows if tv was running late. The only time it changed a scheduled recording was if there was a clash and it found a repeat at another time.

Re: TiVo
 

I would have thought that they already have some in the pipeline, to launch when TIVO is fully rolled out to new customers or just before ( or is that just me been hopeful ):erm:

Re: TiVo
 

Nothings happened yet and no sign of it happening yet.

Re: TiVo
 

That's a bit lame but hopefully this newer model is better though. I know it's got a great deal going for it but being the self proclaimed most advanced DVR ever built you would think it would be incorporated.

Guys on DS are reporting install dates this week so all will become clearer very soon!

Re: TiVo
 

My install is next saturday. I would imagine by now epg data can be pushed to the box at anytime. As far as DVRs go, my 10 yr old model is more advanced than anything todxy, if you ignore a dynamic epg. It's a true PVR.

Re: TiVo
 

From reading peoples first impressions, it sounds like the box still calls home to update its EPG (and you can go into a menu and make it do this manually too). So I doubt there would be a pushed EPG.

One of the more interesting things is the mentions of connecting to the box via a network and being able to watch recordings that way. Hopefully it isn't crammed full of DRM (Digital Rights Management) and is actually usable.

Re: TiVo
 

I very much doubt you'll ever be able to stream recordings to anything other than another Tivo.

Re: TiVo
 

Yes they will be able to do it as they have been able to sign the three screen deal with a few companies ( tv, mobile and online )

Re: TiVo
 

Got my TiVo install coming up on Wednesday. I have 1 V+ and 2 V boxes. Can I swap the V+ with a V and then hand the V box back when the TiVo is installed?

Re: TiVo
 

Yep

Re: TiVo
 

Sweet. Cheers sir. :tu:

Re: TiVo
 

The start up video, I think it's gone to TiVo heaven with the TiVo button which has been replaced by 'Home' :(

Here's the old Series 1 demo vid. You all could of had this 10 years ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbs5Q_Owf6g

:)

Re: TiVo
 

10 years ago was different. For most of us, VCRs were all that was needed especially with analogue TV. TiVo was expensive and unnecessary to most.

Now with easier DVRs that don't require any extra boxes or cables or RF leads you have to buy with extra £10 monthly charges, and everyone sitting firmly on the digital age, it's the right time for TiVo to return, especially as a combined DVR.

Re: TiVo
 

Probably better for me to remain with "The Devil" for another contract - if I live that long, 79 & counting;). VM/Tivo will surely have improved...

Re: TiVo
 

I wish I had "stayed with the devil". I canceled sky to come to VM for tivo only to find out I get A LOT!!!!!!! less HD channels a price increase in April and tivo will cost upto £189+£40 install+£3 a month.

YES THATS RIGHT KIDS A WHOLE LOT MORE MONEY FOR A WHOLE LOT LESS CONTENT.

ANYWAY............I sacked the idea of getting tivo and went back to skyHD.Now I just need to keep VM for 6 months as after that the disconnection fees are greatly reduced.R

But I didnt realise how much I missed SKY-ARTS in HD. It really is one of the channels that bennefits from HD THE MOST.

Ooh and it also seems VM see fit to give some of there customer FREE TIVO BOXES AND FREE LIFE TIVO SUBS.......It seems the price of tivo for you and me subsidies 1000's of users getting it free. Now that is something I'm not willing to be part off.

Re: TiVo
 

Yes, loss of channels now. A vague promise for later will not, think sell VM to Sky subbers.

Re: TiVo
 

It wouldn't have been difficult for you to research what Virgin offers before you signed up with an 18 month contract.

Re: TiVo
 

Loss of channels ?


Oh you mean the ones Sky have cancelled from both platforams....


Hardly VM's fault.


And a statement form the CEO that 80 HD channels will be here with 3 years IIRC is hardly a vague promise.


Simple anwer is if you don't like VM then vote with your feet and either go to Sky or drop Pay Tv.


And VM are not trying to sell to Sky Subscribers they are trying to sell to everyone. Why people think Sky Subscribers are the target I don't get, its easier to sign up those who have no PayTV than those who already have a contract with Sky.

Re: TiVo
 

I suppose the lesson is you should research what any provider offers before joining. I guess you wouldn't have known too much about Tivo's pricing when you joined though.

We have been assured more HD is coming so hopefully that will materialise but I agree regarding Sky Arts HD, we have been assured it is coming albeit about 7 months ago so here's hoping.

If you activated existing kit with Sky you may find you are not tied to a new contract so if things change with VM you may be able to easily cancel Sky and avoid the two subscriptions, just a thought.

---------- Post added at 09:21 ---------- Previous post was at 09:18 ----------

80 channels could be considered a bit speculative as of course 80 HD channels dont currently exist but if it happens all well and good.

It will be interesting to see how 80 HD channels would fit in with VM's current pricing structure though. I have always thought that as more and more HD becomes available VM's pricing structure could become a bit of a millstone around their neck but maybe when HD is considered the norm that argument will wane and extra charges will be banished, I hope so.

They certainly seem to need to get their skates on to back claims like that up given certain channels that were announced months and months ago are still absent but i'm more than happy to give them the benefit of the doubt, for now.

Re: TiVo
 

Why is there so much hate for VM and Tivo surely it's good to see VM investing so much in future technolgy??

Seriously, why bother?

Re: TiVo
 

I know, poeple can be so fickle sometimes! Personally i'm really happy with VM, and when I get TiVo i will be over the moon.

Good work VM. ;)

Re: TiVo
 

I think customers should be able to scrutinise the services they pay for, I wouldn't call it hate myself unless it's blindly biased.

Re: TiVo
 

Has anyone had a call from the Tivo team today?

Re: TiVo
 

People are scrutinising services they don't even have, that just seems silly to me.

Complaining how much it costs, you either want it and pay for it or you don't. From experience VM have always been very fair with pricing for all their products, not biased just honest.

Re: TiVo
 

Oh dear, seem to have ruffled your feathers Sir. If so I apologise.

I am with Sky as posted here. I think the CEO's statements/press releases are vague - three (3) years... Goodness knows what Sky will be offering then!

I do hope to return to VM one day.

Perhaps I should cease posting here.:waving:

Re: TiVo
 

so are we expecting some sort of valentines day message / statement / comment from VM ?

wonder if its lucky lotto mk II week or some other weird not so wonderful surprise that no one knows about until peeps post on forums ... cant say the first tivo lotto was my idea of a publicity stunt as only those on forums knew about it as far as i can tell

im still of the opinion i wont have tivo unless its free (dont think i will miss it if i dont get it) but as a VIP50 (previously vip20 for 4 years) customer i personally have still to get any contact from VM apart from the 'thanks for registering your interest' email back in December

early frustration has turned to disappointment with VM at what i perceive as poor handling of the whole existing customer roll out