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yesman 27-04-2010 00:58
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 35008059)
Glasgow Rangers FC. Champions 53 times and counting :D
Derek, what are your views on the top two (Celtic & Rangers) being allowed to play in the English Premier League? We occasionally read in the press that this is under discussion.

Personally I think it is a bit like allowing Welsh clubs to play in the English football league, like Cardiff and Swansea.


Oh ! Wait a minute........

Derek 27-04-2010 08:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yesman (Post 35008742)
Derek, what are your views on the top two (Celtic & Rangers) being allowed to play in the English Premier League?
Honestly I think both would struggle in the premiership and finish bottom half the first few seasons if not lower :erm:

Then I don't know how the fans would react, Celtics attendances have plummetted in the 2nd half of this season and if they were struggling against an English 'diddy' team I can't see that improving. A lot of Rangers fans are just as fickle.

Something drastic needs to happen in Scottish football but letting the old firm up sticks to England isn't the answer.

LondonRoad 27-04-2010 10:07
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Both Glasgow teams would need a major financial input if they were to compete in the EPL. They are too far behind just now.

Realistically they are competing with Championship sides for transfer targets. The one thing that has attracted players north has been the lure of Champions league football but that may not be there for much longer the way the UEFA coefficient is plumetting. :(

Pog66 27-04-2010 12:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35008189)

When the TV rights come up, then these companies must offer a better deal, then the multi figure that Sky and ESPN, pays for the PL, what was it that Sky paid nearly a billion over five years, maybe if the two big ones Sky and ESPN made an offer in this region, then Scottish club would get a better deal and football would be better.
If I recall there was a big deal with Setanta which obviously fell flat when they went pants

bjorkiii 27-04-2010 20:14
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Can tonights semi-final be as bas bad as the first leg :mad: just hope lyon win

Arthurgray50@blu 27-04-2010 23:10
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I would like to ask one question and answer on, One question, What will the top seven clubs be to finish in the premier league, and suggestions.

Second, and the answer, it would be totally unfair on all the other clubs in the EPL if Celtic and Rangers were allowed to join them, they would not last five minutes with clubs like Arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd, and not only that what about clubs in the Championship.

Celtic and Rangers might have money, but if they want to enter the English football circuit, then they have to start at the bottom.

punky 27-04-2010 23:24
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Poxy FA.

The rules clearly state

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49 Emergency Loan of Goalkeepers. If all the professional goalkeepers at a Club are either certified by an Independent medical practitioner as being unfit to play or are suspended, a Club may register (either before or after the deadlines laid down in Regulation 48.2.2), a further goalkeeper on a short term Emergency Loan in accordance with the following provisions...
Nielsen is a professional player and neither unfit to play or suspended. City should never have been granted permission to sign another keeper because of their inability to maintain a squad.

Absolutle disgrace.

iadom 27-04-2010 23:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35009179)

Celtic and Rangers might have money,

But they don't have money, Rangers in particular are on their uppers.

Rangers

Damien 27-04-2010 23:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by punky (Post 35009185)
Poxy FA.

The rules clearly state



Nielsen is a professional player and neither unfit to play or suspended. City should never have been granted permission to sign another keeper because of their inability to maintain a squad.

Absolutle disgrace.
I agree, shocking decision. Arsenal have had serious injuries this year. 3/4 defenders out for a few games. For the run in we are missing 6 key players. Earlier in the season are top 2 keepers were out and we used the third choice.

United had to do the same at one point, as well as having their entire defense out.

Disgrace is the only way to be put it. Just going to help elevate City to the status of Premiership's most disliked club faster.

LondonRoad 27-04-2010 23:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35009186)
But they don't have money, Rangers in particular are on their uppers.

Rangers
Yup... and Celtic have been reduced to buying players based on their ability to sell shirts rather than any modicum of footballing ability. :(

Derek 27-04-2010 23:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35009188)
Yup... and Celtic have been reduced to buying players based on their ability to sell shirts rather than any modicum of footballing ability. :(
C'mon Keane takes a good penalty... ;)

Next years figures when the full effect of Mowbrays reign and two years (probably) of no champions league footy will make horrible/hilarious reading depending which side of the divide you are from.

At the end of the day they have to either live within their means or find some way of getting some more TV money sent their way. They won't get into the premiership in the short term, they won't get into some super champions league in the next 3-4 years.

Of course that might be a good thing and they might be forced to rely on bringing their own talent through the ranks rather than buying their way out of trouble every 6 months.

punky 27-04-2010 23:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35009187)
I agree, shocking decision. Arsenal have had serious injuries this year. 3/4 defenders out for a few games. For the run in we are missing 6 key players. Earlier in the season are top 2 keepers were out and we used the third choice.

United had to do the same at one point, as well as having their entire defense out.

Disgrace is the only way to be put it. Just going to help elevate City to the status of Premiership's most disliked club faster.
The FA has become the prostitue of FA football now. They'll do anything for money. They'll sell better TV rights to Dubai and China than we can enjoy here and now they'll appease the Arabs at City to insure more billions through through them game into their coffers.

No other way of seeing it.

iadom 27-04-2010 23:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35008205)
England has 10 times the population. So for England to produce as competive a league as we do in Scotland:

Expected different champions: 10 X 2 = 20
Actual different champions: 7

Assumption that EPL is more competitive than SPL = Epic fail :D
Some very dodgy maths there, what has the population got to do with it.

Do your equation based on the number of teams in each league for an accurate figure.:p::)

LondonRoad 28-04-2010 00:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 35009191)
C'mon Keane takes a good penalty... ;)

Next years figures when the full effect of Mowbrays reign and two years (probably) of no champions league footy will make horrible/hilarious reading depending which side of the divide you are from.

At the end of the day they have to either live within their means or find some way of getting some more TV money sent their way. They won't get into the premiership in the short term, they won't get into some super champions league in the next 3-4 years.

Of course that might be a good thing and they might be forced to rely on bringing their own talent through the ranks rather than buying their way out of trouble every 6 months.
Those who make decisions at Kerrydale St have carried a fair amount of luck over the past few years but it's come home to roost now.

"We've got less debt than you" isn't really a chant you hear too often from the terraces. :rolleyes:

Hopefully there will be some realisation that the most faithful support in the world:erm: will no longer buy a shirt because you can put Dublin on the back.

On the bright side, my nephews are both playing with the Celtic Boys and my Neighbours lad is playing with Rangers. All 3 are cracking wee football players and the facilities they get to train are brilliant.... so just keep breathing for another 10 - 15 years.... and we'll be competing with Blackpool for promotion to the Pan-European League Level 3. :dozey:

Shadow Demon UK 28-04-2010 21:15
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Such a bad decision from the ref sending Motta off, never a red card in a million years. The ref may have just ruined this match...

Damien 28-04-2010 21:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35009737)
Such a bad decision from the ref sending Motta off, never a red card in a million years. The ref may have just ruined this match...
To be fair he was on a yellow card already, so even if the ref give him a yellow he was off.

Shadow Demon UK 28-04-2010 21:40
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35009756)
To be fair he was on a yellow card already, so even if the ref give him a yellow he was off.
Well, he gave a red though. I didn't think it was a yellow, probably not even a free kick. Disgraceful, it seems the referees in Europe are once again trying their best to get Barca to the final again like last season.

Damien 28-04-2010 21:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35009760)
Well, he gave a red though. I didn't think it was a yellow, probably not even a free kick. Disgraceful, it seems the referees in Europe are once again trying their best to get Barca to the final again like last season.
It was a yellow in my view did raise his arm to his face after all.

punky 28-04-2010 21:43
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The level of cheating is just ridiculous in the game. This is supposed to be some of the best professionals in the game today?

Niles Crane 28-04-2010 21:44
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Motta's attempt to provoke Barca players after his red card to try and earn them one too was poor. He should have gone straight for Ibrahimovic or Dani Alves.

The pathetic ITV commentators seem to be salivating over Barca even more than usual. If i didn't want Inter to go through already, ITV's usual abysmal coverage would probably have turned me by now.

Shadow Demon UK 28-04-2010 21:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35009761)
It was a yellow in my view did raise his arm to his face after all.

He put his arm out to shield the ball, it happens numerous times in every match. If you're giving out cards for doing that it will end up 5 a side by the time the match has finished. He didn't push out or swing his arm, it was a nothing incident. The reaction of Busquets when he was on the ground tells the full story anway, he should be ashamed of himself.

Niles Crane 28-04-2010 21:50
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I honestly think Inter will win this match. Eto'o and/or Sneijder.

Damien 28-04-2010 22:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35009765)
He put his arm out to shield the ball, it happens numerous times in every match. If you're giving out cards for doing that it will end up 5 a side by the time the match has finished. He didn't push out or swing his arm, it was a nothing incident. The reaction of Busquets when he was on the ground tells the full story anway, he should be ashamed of himself.
You protected the ball with your body and then your hand but that usual does not reach to the face. You reach for the face your gonna get booked. Barcelona players do dive, but he was stupid to give it away. I don't think Inter can have too many complaints.

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Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 35009766)
I honestly think Inter will win this match. Eto'o and/or Sneijder.
I have a one-nil win for Inter at 9 to 1.

I think Inter are far more cynical than Barcelona. They are time-wasting, they are trying their luck with the tackles as well. No sympathy for them.

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Ibrahimovic is doing crap again.

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Here we go!

Niles Crane 28-04-2010 22:41
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Thank goodness for that. Well done Inter!

Damien 28-04-2010 22:43
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Meh I wanted Barcelona :(

Shadow Demon UK 28-04-2010 22:49
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Tactically Inter were perfect. Justice for the sending off, i'm happy for Inter.

Damien 28-04-2010 22:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35009812)
Tactically Inter were perfect. Justice for the sending off, i'm happy for Inter.
It wasn't justice. Barcelona dive but Inter spent the entire game diving, faking injures, wasting time, trying cynical moves that were on the boundaries of fouls to disrupt play. They do that they usual do. He knew what he was doing with the hand, only this time it didn't go his way.

Disappointed at the quality of the game. No final ball for Barcelona and Inter parked the bus.

danielf 28-04-2010 22:57
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The red card was harsh imo, but it was a stupid thing to do, when you know that it can earn you a red card (or a yellow, which would have seen him off as well).

Inter did very well to hang on though, and were the better team over the two legs. Still I'd rather have seen Barca go through.

Shadow Demon UK 28-04-2010 22:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35009817)
It wasn't justice. Barcelona dive but Inter spent the entire game diving, faking injures, wasting time, trying cynical moves that were on the boundaries of fouls to disrupt play. They do that they usual do. He knew what he was doing with the hand, only this time it didn't go his way.

Disappointed at the quality of the game. No final ball for Barcelona and Inter parked the bus.
Inter were wasting time after they got a man sent off, in the semi-finals of the champions league, away from home, against Barcelona and the referee. I don't blame them for wasting time, its nowhere near as bad as purposely trying to get another player sent off which is what Busquets did.

Hopefully because it was a straight red card it can be rescinded and he can play in the final, like he deserves to do.

Damien 28-04-2010 23:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35009824)
Inter were wasting time after they got a man sent off, in the semi-finals of the champions league, away from home, against Barcelona and the referee. I don't blame them for wasting time, its nowhere near as bad as purposely trying to get another player sent off which is what Busquets did.

Hopefully because it was a straight red card it can be rescinded and he can play in the final, like he deserves to do.
It wasn't a straight red card but I think it was a yellow and hence he deserved to be off. His actions afterwards have probably killed his chances of getting to the final though, grabbing him by the neck.

Inter had many men behind the ball, The goal keeper was taking a long time for goal kicks. The yellow card came after the red but it was a long time coming and he had been warned. They were going their to see out the game and part of that involved time wasting.

Niles Crane 28-04-2010 23:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35009837)
It wasn't a straight red card but I think it was a yellow and hence he deserved to be off. His actions afterwards have probably killed his chances of getting to the final though, grabbing him by the neck.

Inter had many men behind the ball, The goal keeper was taking a long time for goal kicks. The yellow card came after the red but it was a long time coming and he had been warned. They were going their to see out the game and part of that involved time wasting.
For all the negatives of Inter, i'd give anything for Arsenal to play like that at times. They deserve their place in the final.

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Damien 28-04-2010 23:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 35009843)
For all the negatives of Inter, i'd give anything for Arsenal to play like that at times. Inter deserve their place in the final.
Maybe sometimes, when they need to see out a result when the tide is against them, but not for a whole game and not on a constant basis. Inter just play clever, tactical, professional and efficient football and there is a lot to admire about that. They deserve the success they get.

However the style of play is what makes games enjoyable and I find Inter suck some of that out of a game with their negativity and cynicism. This was an awful game, the Chelsea one wasn't great despite the three attackers. Therefore I prefer other teams to go though.

I don't think I would like Arsenal to become known for that kind of football and to produce week in and week out. Would mean more success I guess, but I still think attacking football is the best way to win games in the end.

iadom 28-04-2010 23:25
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Inter did attack, they put three past Barca at home, the first side to do that in two years, they fully deserve to go through. They also attacked Chelski from the off at Stamford Bridge, tactically perfect.

Good defending is part of football and can be every bit as exciting if you allow yourself to see the bigger picture.;)

Also nice to see that cheating Ribery will miss the final.:D

yesman 29-04-2010 00:03
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After watching last nights match, then this excuse for a game tonight, there is only one winner for me. I will be rooting for Bayern Munich in the final !!

punky 29-04-2010 00:52
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After the Gerrard nonsense, now here's a promising rumour... Benitez's house is up for sale allegedly

http://www.struttandparker.com/prope...CHS090087.html

I don't know if its his house or not, but he lives in the street. Could just be movin locally or more further afield. He's been linked to Juve and and isn't happy about the ownership at Liverpool.

Damien 29-04-2010 23:03
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Yes Fulham! YES!

Congratulations to Fulham and Hodgson. Great result! I really hope they go onto win it.

Niles Crane 29-04-2010 23:06
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Once again, absolutely brilliant from Fulham! I couldn't be happier for them.

Inter through, Fulham through. Both with epic performances. Great couple of days!

Shadow Demon UK 29-04-2010 23:08
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I am so happy for Fulham, fully deserved win tonight with a great performance. I hope they go on to win it.

iadom 29-04-2010 23:44
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And that puts Uniteds hopes out of the window, Liverpool will be knackered on Sunday, both physically and mentally.

Happy for Forlan though, he played his heart out for United but it just didn't work out for him, apart from games against Liverpool.;)

Its a real pity that fantasic, first half, one touch passing sequence that ended in Kuyt firing over didn't bring a goal. Even I would have voted for that as my goal of the season had it gone in.

Shadow Demon UK 29-04-2010 23:49
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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/04/5.jpg


Diego does it again :D

LEE1 29-04-2010 23:54
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are liverpool going to be in europe with a 7th place finish or will they need pointsin the last 2 games if so they will need something from the chelsea game... as a united fan that gives me hope but we need to do our own job aswell.

Niles Crane 29-04-2010 23:56
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7th place is enough for Europe next season. Everton still could feasibly take it though.

Like i said earlier in the thread; if Fulham win the Europa League then currently Burnley will be playing in Europe next season as they're the highest club in the Fair Play league which hasn't qualified by other means!

gazzae 30-04-2010 00:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 35010851)
Like i said earlier in the thread; if Fulham win the Europa League then currently Burnley will be playing in Europe next season as they're the highest club in the Fair Play league which hasn't qualified by other means!
Where are England in the Fair Play league?

Shadow Demon UK 30-04-2010 00:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35010866)
Where are England in the Fair Play league?

England were 3rd in the last one, the top 3 nations get an extra place so there's a possibilty England won't get one if they drop a place.

gazzae 30-04-2010 00:17
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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35010869)
England were 3rd in the last one, the top 3 nations get an extra place so there's a possibilty England won't get one if they drop a place.
I thought only the top team got an automatic place and then there was a ballot of the next places. Have they changed it?

Shadow Demon UK 30-04-2010 00:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35010874)
I thought only the top team got an automatic place and then there was a ballot of the next places. Have they changed it?
I think it changed when it became the Europa League, i do remember it being a ballot but that has definately changed now to the top 3 nations.

yesman 30-04-2010 19:19
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I think Benitez senses defeat :rolleyes:

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I think the fixtures are fantastic, very well organised as always,' said a sarcastic Benitez, who pointed out if a similar situation arose in Spain all the games would be played at the same time - which only happens on the final day of the season in England.
'What time do we play on Sunday, 1.30pm? What time do United play, four o'clock. Ah, so they play later.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-schedule.html

Niles Crane 01-05-2010 00:02
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In other news, Didier Drogba has been named in TIME magazine's 100 most influential people of 2010. Which is quite an accolade.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/04/1.jpg

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Drogba, 32, a striker for England's Chelsea Football Club and the captain of the Côte d'Ivoire team, has shown the world what's possible when power and grace fuse on the soccer pitch. Imagine the body of an NBA star with feet as nimble as a prima ballerina's. When the World Cup kicks off in South Africa in June, he will carry the hopes of a continent as Africa's best-known soccer star. (West African fans will toast him with a beer glass called the Drogba. It's nearly twice the size of a normal mug.)

No one knows the rickety and high-spirited but often heartbreaking touring bus that is African soccer better than Drogba. At the 2006 World Cup, his homeland ravaged by civil war, he organized a statement from the Elephants, as the Ivorian national team is referred to, calling for peace. Many credit the ensuing calm for allowing reconciliation to begin. At a match last March, 22 Ivorians were killed in the crush to see their beloved heroes play. After the game, Drogba resolved to donate every dollar he earns from endorsements to a charity he set up to build new hospitals in the country.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/specials/pa...#ixzz0mcidhlpp
http://www.time.com/time/specials/pa...984685,00.html

Matty_ 01-05-2010 22:08
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Here`s one kid he`influenced`http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/60/82410700.jpg

Fernando has more style http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/9...oofernando.jpg

Or maybe Ryan http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9...turesmanca.jpg check out Andersons boat race...

:D

Niles Crane 02-05-2010 01:41
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Another African footballer who has his head screwed on straight is Benoit Assou-Ekotto, as this rather brilliant and refreshingly honest interview in The Guardian today shows:

Some select parts:

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"If I play football with my friends back in France, I can love football," he says. "But if I come to England, where I knew nobody and I didn't speak English … why did I come here? For a job. A career is only 10, 15 years. It's only a job. Yes, it's a good, good job and I don't say that I hate football but it's not my passion.

"I arrive in the morning at the training ground at 10.30 and I start to be professional. I finish at one o'clock and I don't play football afterwards. When I am at work, I do my job 100%. But after, I am like a tourist in London. I have my Oyster card and I take the tube. I eat.

"I don't understand why everybody lies. The president of my former club Lens, Gervais Martel, said I left because I got more money in England, that I didn't care about the shirt. I said: 'Is there one player in the world who signs for a club and says, Oh, I love your shirt?' Your shirt is red. I love it. He doesn't care. The first thing that you speak about is the money.

"Martel said I go to England for the money but why do players come to his club? Because they look nice? All people, everyone, when they go to a job, it's for the money. So I don't understand why, when I said I play for the money, people were shocked. Oh, he's a mercenary. Every player is like that."
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What of his relationship with Tottenham team-mates? "I have a good feeling with [Aaron] Lennon and [Jermain] Defoe, more these two players but I have a feeling with everybody. I have a problem with nobody. But I have nobody on the phone, except [Adel] Taarabt, who is on loan at QPR and I know from Lens. I only call him. I don't call footballers in my team. I don't believe in friendships in football."
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"I knew for a fact that I didn't like school and I also knew that I didn't want to work in an office where I would be paid €1,500-a-month and, at the end of my career, be able to buy a little suburban apartment or something," he says. "Where it became definitive for me was at 16, when I was expelled from school because I was no longer paying attention. I had nothing to fall back on and this forms part of my attitude to football. I give it my very best, being as efficient and professional as possible, because it's all that I have."
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"With Harry, it's cool. We don't speak a lot and he doesn't care if I smile or if I know who the next team we play is. If I do my job well, it's OK. He is doing simple things that the previous two managers couldn't even think of. He is straightforward and he doesn't play games."
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Before South Africa Assou-Ekotto is on the brink of history with Tottenham. They entertain Bolton Wanderers this afternoon, with a place in next season's Champions League within their grasp. "It would be good for the team, the club and the supporters … they'd enjoy it," he says. "But for me, it would be just another set of games. When we play Liverpool and Chelsea, it's like the Champions League anyway so for me …"

Assou-Ekotto shrugs. It is only a job.
I'd heard rumours that he didn't really like football and this confirms it. I'm sure his attitude irks some people, but he's really gone up in my estimation.

Russ 02-05-2010 10:52
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There might be another game left but I can see the premiership title being decided today. As much as I hate to say this, I can't see Chelsea not taking it this year. For the first time in my life I really want the scousers to win today but without Torres it's just not going to happen. Chelsea, premiership champions 2009/10. Just keep it nice and shiny for when you hand it back over next year :)

Donkey can be happy in the knowledge that his inability to hit a cow's rear with a banjo played the biggest part in losing the title this year.

superbiatch 02-05-2010 11:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35012199)
There might be another game left but I can see the premiership title being decided today. As much as I hate to say this, I can't see Chelsea not taking it this year. For the first time in my life I really want the scousers to win today but without Torres it's just not going to happen.
You know Russ, I'm almost inclined to agree with you. We've been so poor this season I think the best we could hope for today would be a draw! :rolleyes:

Russ 02-05-2010 11:15
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I think even a draw is pushing it. Chelsea will be full strength, I'm not sure Rene will put out a full strength side though. Chelsea will want to win, Liverpool have no reason to beat them. I reckon the players will feel they've let the fans down and will want to give them something so jobbing to Chelsea and killing off United's chance at the title is just about the only satisfaction they may be left with.

punky 02-05-2010 11:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by superbiatch (Post 35012212)
You know Russ, I'm almost inclined to agree with you. We've been so poor this season I think the best we could hope for today would be a draw! :rolleyes:
Its part of the Man Yoo mind set. They moan all season about their team isn't going to win and then when they actually do win, they say they knew they'd win all along, they are the greatest team the world has ever seen, yadda, yadda yadda.

Its frightfully tedious now.

Russ 02-05-2010 11:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by punky (Post 35012228)
Its part of the Man Yoo mind set. They moan all season about their team isn't going to win and then when they actually do win, they say they knew they'd win all along, they are the greatest team the world has ever seen, yadda, yadda yadda.

Its frightfully tedious now.
I don't know any United fans who've said we're the best team and knew all along we'd win.

This has been the strangest season I can remember and certainly not just for United. Big teams getting beaten (sometimes at home) by much smaller teams, it's just not heard of. OK it's great for these smaller teams but I can't say I know of anyone who has truly enjoyed this season. It's been interesting but let's hope normal service is resumed come August.

punky 02-05-2010 11:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35012231)
I don't know any United fans who've said we're the best team and knew all along we'd win.

This has been the strangest season I can remember and certainly not just for United. Big teams getting beaten (sometimes at home) by much smaller teams, it's just not heard of. OK it's great for these smaller teams but I can't say I know of anyone who has truly enjoyed this season. It's been interesting but let's hope normal service is resumed come August.
I have enjoyed it. Spurs have set a new record for points scored. We've scored more points than before when a dodgy lasagne stopped us getting to 4th. Going into the last week or so with 3-4 teams vying for 4th place is exciting.

And last season was just as good because of the relegation battle. Until quite late any one of the bottom 8 could go down.

There's more to the Premiership that one team dominating the very top of it.

Matty_ 02-05-2010 13:10
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You mean by "normal service" that Man Utd win the league with a few games to spare and you have a second eleven that would probably compete in the premier league.
Other teams just come to Old Trafford and roll over because it`s United. Well if the current state of affairs continues it ain`t going to happen. Who can we blame it on? I know lets blame it on that Bulgarian Berbatov he`s a good scape goat. If you think getting rid of him and bringing in a new striker (who may or not score goals[think Diego Forlan]) will make everything hunky-dory then i reckon your in for a shock.
Normally Utd have been able to sort things out out by making some big signings and bringing a few youngsters through, this hasn`t worked for a couple of years know and the old guard has had to do the business. Giggs, Scholes, Neville and Van de Saar are very much at the end of their careers and Rio Ferdinand is a bit like Ledley King. Unless there is a major upheaval of the current squad i really can`t see Utd dominating like they used to.

How many of Utd`s current team would get in a team/squad made up of the best players in the prem?
Rooney would definately, after that maybe Evra/Fletcher but then your struggling. For the past 15 years you would have had at least 7 or 8 in a squad of 22.

I bet Liverpool thought their winning run would last for ever (maybe a few blips along the way) and look at them know :D

Also i do hope Utd win the league, i would rather it come up north than go to Chelsea ;)

I also think this has been one of the better seasons recently, you have a lot of teams that play good football plus some that play in a differant way. The beauty has been the unpredictability!

Shadow Demon UK 02-05-2010 13:49
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Does this suprise anyone? Not me

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...010/05/190.jpg

Damien 02-05-2010 16:14
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YAY! Palace stay up!

Russ 02-05-2010 16:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty_ (Post 35012316)
You mean by "normal service" that Man Utd win the league with a few games to spare and you have a second eleven that would probably compete in the premier league.
Other teams just come to Old Trafford and roll over because it`s United. Well if the current state of affairs continues it ain`t going to happen. Who can we blame it on? I know lets blame it on that Bulgarian Berbatov he`s a good scape goat. If you think getting rid of him and bringing in a new striker (who may or not score goals[think Diego Forlan]) will make everything hunky-dory then i reckon your in for a shock.
I've got no problem with blaming it on Donkey, the man is absolutely useless for a £30m striker - you know, the position where goals are supposed to come from. He's a total liability and when he's playing we may as well have 10 men on the pitch. Oh sure, he'll do nice flicks and lay-offs but where does that get us? He's a striker who cannot score goals. True we need reinforcements in goal, defence, midfield and up front but how many times has he alone let us down? Too many to mention. I hope all United fans turn on him - with a bit of luck he'll be out of Manchester within a few weeks. the man is useless and beats Sebastion veron as SAF's biggest waste of money. If he spent as much effort on scoring as he does with earning the title of scapegoat then Chelsea wouldn't have won the premiership this year.

Arthurgray50@blu 02-05-2010 16:59
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It should have been Liverpool 0, Chelsea 1, there second goal was well offside.

Matty_ 02-05-2010 18:23
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The trouble is if Berbatov was signed as a man to get you goals then someone must have seen something different. The stats show that he has never been a prolific scorer in the premiership. I understand what your saying about him missing crucial chances that could have given you 3 points, but wasn`t that why Michael Owen was signed?.............Oh wait :erm:

Finding a player who regularly changes the course of a game is tough, look at Liverpool without Gerrard or Torres, Arsenal without Fabregas or Van Persie, Man U without Rooney or Vidic and Chelsea without Drogba or Lampard.

Personally i think it`s the bulgarian mentality because Petrov is pretty much of the same mould, whereas players from Croatia/Serbia, etc, seem to be able to concentrate that bit more!

Wonder how much you`ll you`ll get for him :angel:

p.s. He`s just ballooned another one at the end of the first half.........the look on Rooneys face was classic :)

iadom 02-05-2010 19:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35012486)
It should have been Liverpool 0, Chelsea 1, there second goal was well offside.
Well it was apart from Mascherano stood watching at the other side of the area.

However it should have been Man Utd 1, Chelski 1, his goal then was miles offside.:(

Does Gerrard get any FF points for that assist.:rolleyes:

Charlie_Bubble 02-05-2010 20:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35012594)
However it should have been Man Utd 1, Chelski 1, his goal then was miles offside.:(
If you're being petty, then it should have been Man Utd 0 Chelsea 1, don't forget the blatant handling of the ball into the goal for the Utd 'goal'. Man Utd supporters always seem to have memory failure when it comes to their own teams shortcomings.

Shadow Demon UK 02-05-2010 20:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty_ (Post 35012532)
The trouble is if Berbatov was signed as a man to get you goals then someone must have seen something different. The stats show that he has never been a prolific scorer in the premiership. I understand what your saying about him missing crucial chances that could have given you 3 points, but wasn`t that why Michael Owen was signed?.............Oh wait :erm:

Finding a player who regularly changes the course of a game is tough, look at Liverpool without Gerrard or Torres, Arsenal without Fabregas or Van Persie, Man U without Rooney or Vidic and Chelsea without Drogba or Lampard.

Personally i think it`s the bulgarian mentality because Petrov is pretty much of the same mould, whereas players from Croatia/Serbia, etc, seem to be able to concentrate that bit more!

Wonder how much you`ll you`ll get for him :angel:

p.s. He`s just ballooned another one at the end of the first half.........the look on Rooneys face was classic :)

I'm just going to put this stat out there, it isn't me defending Berbatov but he's scored more league goals this season than Anelka and Bendtner, the other sides in the top 3 "second strikers".

Arthurgray50@blu 02-05-2010 21:02
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This is why Tottenham got rid of Berbs, it was total crap, and the worst thing is, Berbs nose has been knocked out of joint, as it doesn't get regular football, he is always on the bench for Utd.

Fergie will sell him during the summer, I will give him the air ticket, Utd deserve better than him.

Damien 05-05-2010 10:15
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Redknapp has started again:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...r-city-bellamy

punky 05-05-2010 13:49
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Looks like Citeh's lawyers could be busy, they'll have to sue Steve Bruce as well.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m.../ai_n38060616/

Quote:
He said: 'Manchester City's behaviour was disgusting. They had no intention of signing Palacios. They used the boy and this club as a weapon in a deal to get Craig Bellamy.

'If City had not come in before we played them he would have signed for us. He was wobbling about Spurs. But City never had any intention of signing Palacios and it unsettled him.

'The call came in, chief executive to chief executive, and it cost us the player. He wasn't sure about going to London, he was on the verge of signing and we had even drawn up the papers.

'But when City came in it was a different ball game. They were throwing telephone figures about.

We were told they would speak to us after our game but they had no intention of doing it.

'I think it was done between the clubs. I think it was agreed for Tottenham to pull out of the Bellamy deal and leave City with a clear run for him and Spurs would take Wilson. When I see their chief executive criticising AC Milan about Kaka I think he's got a cheek after what he did here.'
And whilst Citeh are questioning people's integrity...

Then:

Quote:
A club statement said: "Whilst Manchester City FC has the utmost respect for Steve Bruce and his views, the club wishes to make it absolutely clear that the only inquiry made in relation to Wilson Palacios was by a private phone call to [Wigan chief executive] Brenda Spencer.
Now:

Quote:
City say Wigan approached them offering Palacios, while Spurs were in mid-negotiation for him, and that they briefly considered, but swiftly rejected any move for him.
So which is it Mr Cook?

Damien 05-05-2010 14:19
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You can buy hundreds of millions of pounds worth of players but you can't buy class. Something City evidently do not have.

Saaf_laandon_mo 05-05-2010 15:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35014508)
You can buy hundreds of millions of pounds worth of players but you can't buy class. Something City evidently do not have.
Something Wenger also lacks when his team lose.

Damien 05-05-2010 15:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 35014531)
Something Wenger also lacks when his team lose.
Yup. Don't really care about that though. Doesn't like losing and handles it badly. I don't handle it well either :)

TheDaddy 05-05-2010 15:41
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Wonder if he got the yellow card rescinded..... :disturbd:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/.../article/1224/

Arthurgray50@blu 05-05-2010 17:43
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This is silly stupid behaviour.

Damien 05-05-2010 17:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35014632)
This is silly stupid behaviour.
Dying?

Hom3r 05-05-2010 20:32
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35014632)
This is silly stupid behaviour.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35014635)
Dying?

I'm guessing Arthur is refering to the yellow card.

---------- Post added at 19:32 ---------- Previous post was at 18:23 ----------

Is about to watch Spurs v Man City, a win for either puts them 4th.

COME ON YOU SPURS

iadom 05-05-2010 21:33
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Anyone else think that Gareth Bale looks like a member of Gorillaz.:)

Hom3r 05-05-2010 21:36
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Well the ref is a 'male' chicken

---------- Post added at 20:36 ---------- Previous post was at 20:35 ----------

Gomes is definately earning his wages & bonus

TheDaddy 05-05-2010 22:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35014635)
Dying?
Yeah bet he felt like a right idiot, dropping down dead like that....

Hom3r 05-05-2010 22:44
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Gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

Turkey Machine 05-05-2010 22:45
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
You what?!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/8658858.stm

Hom3r 05-05-2010 22:49
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
That goal has just made Spurs £50,000,000. now were just 2 points behind Arsenal in 3rd.

LondonRoad 05-05-2010 22:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 35014858)
Defences on top!:D

...and 2 missed penalties:shocked:

meanwhile the live ESPN thriller: Accies 0 V 0 Buddies.:(

punky 05-05-2010 23:00
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Can't believe Spurs have finally broken the top 4. Silly sod I am, have a tear in my eye. Still in shock. COYS!!!!

Hom3r 05-05-2010 23:02
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Well I'm putting a fiver on them going 3rd :D

Niles Crane 05-05-2010 23:08
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35014864)
Defences on top!:D

...and 2 missed penalties:shocked:

meanwhile the live ESPN thriller: Accies 0 V 0 Buddies.:(
Clearly ESPN have an obligation to show a certain amount of matches with their SPL contract, but this match instead of live coverage of Inter vs Roma in the Coppa Italia final? Come on now!

yesman 05-05-2010 23:10
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Well done Spurs.

Ledley King is an immense player, arguably the best centre back in the country.

Also well done Crouchy, who rarely gets the praise he deserves.

Shadow Demon UK 05-05-2010 23:13
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by yesman (Post 35014879)
Ledley King is an immense player, arguably the best centre back in the country.
I would say he is definately the best in the country, by some distance as well. Such a shame he has so much trouble with injuries.

So, whats the betting Spurs don't make it past the qualifying round in the champions league next season? :D

Damien 05-05-2010 23:15
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Well done Spurs. The Champions League is a great competition and the top 4 is a great achievement. Don't think many of us were expecting that. It was meant to be City taking 4th from Arsenal!

Hopefully we'll get a draw or a win against Fulham and keep our 3rd place. Don't want to go to another qualifier.

Hom3r 05-05-2010 23:16
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Quote:
"You got to have some sympathy for Man City. Match after match, year after year, their hopes and raised and dashed. It's like waiting for the Messiah and constantly getting Brian."

Damien 05-05-2010 23:16
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35014882)
So, whats the betting Spurs don't make it past the qualifying round in the champions league next season? :D
I think the qualifier draw is random, but the group stage is seeded and I *think* they will be in the third or forth pot as their UEFA coefficient can't be great.

Hom3r 05-05-2010 23:17
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35014884)
Well done Spurs. The Champions League is a great competition and the top 4 is a great achievement. Don't think many of us were expecting that. It was meant to be City taking 4th from Arsenal!

Hopefully we'll get a draw or a win against Fulham and keep our 3rd place. Don't want to go to another qualifier.
Well Arsenal may be favourites for 3rd, but its been a funny season.

Damien 05-05-2010 23:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35014887)
Well Arsenal may be favourites for 3rd, but its been a funny season.
Arsenal need to wake the hell up. The run has been awful for Arsenal since the Barca game. Hope we have some first team players back.

Niles Crane 05-05-2010 23:21
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Well done Spurs.

Does this mean the media will finally stop going on about the "big 4"?

Turkey Machine 05-05-2010 23:23
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 35014894)
Well done Spurs.

Does this mean the media will finally stop going on about the "big 4"?
Hell no, it just means the Spurs fans will be shouting loudly "OOARRYA"!

Hom3r 05-05-2010 23:24
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 35014894)
Well done Spurs.

Does this mean the media will finally stop going on about the "big 4"?

Whose that?

I can only think of Labour, Conservatives & Lib Dems.

LondonRoad 05-05-2010 23:27
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 35014877)
Clearly ESPN have an obligation to show a certain amount of matches with their SPL contract, but this match instead of live coverage of Inter vs Roma in the Coppa Italia final? Come on now!
Yup. Watching it now but it's not the same when you know what the score was. :(

Niles Crane 05-05-2010 23:30
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Also, why is Richard Keys so bloody obsessed with Mourinho? He's been creaming himself over the man for what seems like an eternity and then tonight he specifically brings him up to make a bitchy, irrelevant comparison with Redknapp and Hodgson's celebrations. I'm guessing Mourinho must have rejected his advances.

Shadow Demon UK 06-05-2010 00:26
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35014900)
Yup. Watching it now but it's not the same when you know what the score was. :(
Absoloutley disgusting stuff from Totti in this match, he's a class player but he has no self control whatsoever when things are going against him/Roma. Hopefully he gets the book thrown at him after this performance.

A lot of the Roma players seem to be taking lessons from him as well, which is a shame.

LondonRoad 06-05-2010 00:43
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35014934)
Absoloutley disgusting stuff from Totti in this match, he's a class player but he has no self control whatsoever when things are going against him/Roma. Hopefully he gets the book thrown at him after this performance.

A lot of the Roma players seem to be taking lessons from him as well, which is a shame.
Italian football at it's worst. There would have been some poetic justice if Totti had actually injured himself.

Derek 06-05-2010 11:52
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Arf!

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....ttoo__for_2011

Quote:
OPTIMISTIC Blue Kirk Bradley is so sure of Manchester City's success next season that he's had a tattoo announcing them as Champions League Winners for 2011.
What a tadger, I suppose he could just get the 2011 crossed out and 2012 put in. :D


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