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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36068818)

You wish!

My joke was that the EU's behaviour was so bad that a tin foil hat-wearing conspiracy theorist might suggest that it had been infiltrated by Brexiters determined to bring it down as the EU couldn't have played it any worse.

Anyway, moving on, there's a good article in Sky News today about the government's procurement of vaccinations. Worth reading in full but one snippet here on how and why Matt Hancock over-ruled his officials on the Oxford vaccine. Spoiler: Matt Hancock seems to have called it right!

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During March and April 2020, the University of Oxford negotiated a deal which would allow Merck to manufacture and distribute the vaccine it was in the process of developing.

The arrangement made sense. Unlike British-Swedish AstraZeneca, Merck had experience in making vaccines. Its senior executives had links to Oxford scientist and government adviser Sir John Bell.

Yet when the contract reached Matt Hancock's desk, the former adviser said, the health secretary refused to approve it, because it didn't include provisions specifically committing to supply the UK first.

The fear was export controls - not from the EU, but from the US. Mr Hancock was worried that president Trump would stop vaccines from Merck leaving the country.

With the university and Merck "as close to signing on the dotted line as they could be", he stopped it going ahead, because he didn't want to risk the intellectual property rights for the Oxford vaccine ending up in the hands of a single American company.

"He was just meant to confirm he was happy, and then it would have happened immediately," said the former adviser. "But he wasn't, and overruled officials to block the deal."

Reports have suggested that the Oxford scientists were unsure whether the deal with Merck had strong enough provisions for supplying poorer countries with vaccines. Mr Hancock's objection was more local and political. He wanted to make sure there was enough for UK citizens. The rest of the world could come later.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...upply-12204044

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36068828)

My joke was that the EU's behaviour was so bad that a tin foil hat-wearing conspiracy theorist might suggest that it had been infiltrated by Brexiters determined to bring it down as the EU couldn't have played it any worse.

Anyway, moving on, there's a good article in Sky News today about the government's procurement of vaccinations. Worth reading in full but one snippet here on how and why Nick Hancock over-ruled his officials on the Oxford vaccine. Spoiler: Nick Hancock seems to have called it right!

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...upply-12204044

who's nick Hancock

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36068830)

who's nick Hancock

:D They Think it's all over. Thanks, duly corrected.

Andrew Marr reporting that Boris rang von der lying and told her she was endangering the lives of millions of British pensioners who need a second dose of vaccine, that seems to have opened her eyes to what she was doing.

This will put the cat amongst the pigeons. What the EU did with the vaccine rollout and triggering Article 16, was a move no different to something out of a Nazi German hand book.

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36068839)

This will put the cat amongst the pigeons. What the EU did with the vaccine rollout and triggering Article 16, was a move no different to something out of a Nazi German hand book.

Imagine what von der loony would have done with an Eu army at her disposal.

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36068839)

This will put the cat amongst the pigeons. What the EU did with the vaccine rollout and triggering Article 16, was a move no different to something out of a Nazi German hand book.

... or a Trump handbook.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36068841)

... or a Trump handbook.

No argument from me. Lots of commentary about EU’s move being very Trumpian.

BREAKING: Captain Sir Tom Moore in hospital with Coronavirus. :(

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...virus-12204729

Not yet vaccinated, because he has been undergoing treatment for pneumonia :(

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36068874)

BREAKING: Captain Sir Tom Moore in hospital with Coronavirus. :(

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...virus-12204729

That's not good, I hope the old fella can fight it off.

Get well soon Sir Tom

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36068839)

This will put the cat amongst the pigeons. What the EU did with the vaccine rollout and triggering Article 16, was a move no different to something out of a Nazi German hand book.

'Godwin's Law' proved right again? ;)

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36068902)

'Godwin's Law' proved right again? ;)

Not necessarily.

Godwin's law itself can be applied mistakenly, a fallacy by miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole when the comparisons made by my argument are actually appropriate, which in this case - against the EU, they are. Godwin's law also precludes that a thread or topic is coming to an abrupt end, this one most certainly isn't. So your claim is false.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36068878)

Not yet vaccinated, because he has been undergoing treatment for pneumonia :(

So you cant be vaccinated if your being treated for pneumonia ?