Cable Forum - Coronavirus

I specifically said the Pfizer vaccine., not all vaccines. The fact we've invested in the AZ one and produce it here removes this from the equation, but that wasn't the point of the article - although the article (perhaps selectively) omitted this possibility.

We didn't start rolling out the AZ vaccine until Jan 4th and were already ahead of all but Denmark with the Pfitzer vaccine.

Try again.

Mick	29-01-2021 21:22

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It's becoming very clear tonight - The European Commission blindsided the British AND Irish govts on Article 16. So much for their "Respect Dublin" approach.

Mr K	29-01-2021 21:30

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36068709)

It's becoming very clear tonight - The European Commission blindsided the British AND Irish govts on Article 16. So much for their "Respect Dublin" approach.

The EU and the UK need to behave like grown ups. We've dragged them down to our level, which means we all lose.

pip08456

29-01-2021 21:37

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36068709)

It's becoming very clear tonight - The European Commission blindsided the British AND Irish govts on Article 16. So much for their "Respect Dublin" approach.

You could be right.

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A Government source said the Taoiseach had not being given any advance warning of the EU decision to invoke the article in the protocol. The source said the article may have been inadvertently triggered by “someone who did not understand the political implications” of the decision.

https://www.independent.ie/news/taoi...-40028406.html

Chris

29-01-2021 21:43

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36068714)

The EU and the UK need to behave like grown ups. We've dragged them down to our level, which means we all lose.

The UK government has done absolutely nothing, except make the bare minimum responses to specific questions about UK vaccine supply that have arisen purely because the EU is desperately trying to deflect attention from the mess it’s made.

It’s a stretch, even for you, to identify British mischief behind the yields of Pfizer and AstraZeneca factories in Europe, the time it took the EU to sign any vaccine deals, who the EU signed deals with and how much it bought.

Mick	29-01-2021 22:03

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BREAKING: EU back peddle reasoning behind action to invoke Article 16 of N. Ireland Protocol, an EU source says decision has been an oversight.

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A No10 spokesman said: ‘The Prime Minister spoke to EU Commission president Ursula Von Der Leyen this evening.’

‘He expressed his grave concerns about the potential impact which the steps the EU has taken today on vaccine exports could have.’

Damien

29-01-2021 22:05

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Looks like Dublin hit the roof about it. Some others within the EU - especially Barnier - seem to have been angry as well.

Mick	29-01-2021 22:05

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BREAKING: Article 16 has been WITHDRAWN by the EU. Statement shortly

nomadking

29-01-2021 22:21

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Still should be borne in mind that the EU was all too prepared to take this illegal action.

Pierre

29-01-2021 22:35

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http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-e...urces-12202835

U-Turn if you want to....

nomadking

29-01-2021 22:46

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Link

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Third countries/Global dimension
What if a third country has an APA with a manufacturer in the EU?
The Commission is mindful of APAs contracted by third countries, and will endeavour to ensure that the expectations of these countries to obtain their deliveries will be met.
We call on companies with APAs to meet their obligations to deliver on their commitments.

And yet the EU is trying to block that for the UK.

jfman

29-01-2021 23:03

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36068726)

Looks like Dublin hit the roof about it. Some others within the EU - especially Barnier - seem to have been angry as well.

Now, now. The forum standard is to credit Britain for any such change.

Chris

29-01-2021 23:24

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Give the EU some credit. For about 2 hours this evening the DUP and Sinn Feinn were in complete agreement on something.

1andrew1

30-01-2021 00:14

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36068603)

[/COLOR]Pro tip by the way, if you're trying to search the PDF, the only mention of the UK is on one of only three pages in the document that are photocopy images rather than searchable electronic text. If I was a cynical person I might even find that a bit suspicious.

If I can borrow a spare Cable Forum tin hat for a minute, I would suggest that the EU has been infiltrated by Ultra Brexiters who are doing an amazing job in distracting the British public from seeing the genuine difficulties that many in British business are facing in trading with the EU post Brexit.

The EU's actions are gold dust for EU detractors. You couldn't make this situation up for Yes Minister, it wouldn't leave the cutting room floor.