Cable Forum - Britain outside the EU

Nobody is disputing that people cross the channel - but the fact the number is not zero doesn’t prove the absence of a right wing agenda around the subject.

I think it’s the express today saying “£40 a week, free mobiles and a free stay in a 4 star hotel while your case is pending”. It doesn’t mention that you are basically a prisoner in the hotel and £40 a week doesn’t go far, but that’s incidental to their narrative. As appealing as it sounds I don’t think people travel halfway round the world (and risk death) for it.

what about the looney left agenda you spout???

Sephiroth

26-11-2021 13:03

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36102607)

It's a pity that the hand of hospitality isn't extended to our homeless . .

"£40 a week, free mobiles and a free stay in a 4 star hotel ~~while your case is pending~~ until we get you a permanent residence sorted” isn't something you see being touted around is it.

I expect someone will say that some of the homeless have 'made themselves homeless' . . . which is obviously far different than sneaking across from France in a boat at 2am.

That's very much the right point to make.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36102606)

I don't think you're right, John.

They reach the EU and choose their soft touch country. Simples. And that includes the terrorists amongst them.

ianch99

26-11-2021 13:07

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36102618)

:tu: been saying that exact thing for years

The country has more than enough money. You just need to convince those that should pay taxes to pay taxes.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36102608)

They should set up a limited company and bid for Government contracts.

Nope, that only works if you are chums with a Tory minister or MP ;)

mrmistoffelees

26-11-2021 13:23

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36102600)

That is 100% correct. Many Remainers have mocked me for calling the French government "perfidious" and Macron in particular. If further proof was needed of their perfidy, this is it.

If you want someone’s cooperation who is already awkward or annoyed with you, you don’t agitate that person further. Otherwise all you’re doing is flicking an angry tiger in its plums with a wet towel and then wondering why it mauls you.

Collaboration and diplomacy are required if we have are to have any chance of resolving this issue.

Running round like a small child going ‘I told you so’ will solve nothing apart from making you feel justified. And, apart from to you that’s insignificant.

Carth

26-11-2021 13:27

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"Collaboration and diplomacy"

Give us fishing rights or we will blockade your ports

. . . and maybe even stop your gas supply

. . . oh, and we want £57million to play at patrolling our beaches

or else

mrmistoffelees

26-11-2021 13:31

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36102635)

So, do you lower yourself to the other sides or persons standards?

On your second point, why not protect our own borders, they are in fact ours.

Carth

26-11-2021 13:38

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36102636)

So, do you lower yourself to the other sides or persons standards?

On your second point, why not protect our own borders, they are in fact ours.

They started it dad :p:

I didn't think French beaches were our borders?

mrmistoffelees

26-11-2021 13:44

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36102637)

They started it dad :p:

I didn't think French beaches were our borders?

They're not, but as 'we' are wanting to stop people getting into 'our' country, surely the onus is on 'us' to protect our borders ? rather than relying on a 3rd country.

There's a lot of coastline to guard in Northern France, and unless your plan is to put someone every 100m to stop them, then i don't see how this realistically works.

The same issue is happening at the US/Mexico border, despite all the money the US throw at other countries and technology.

1andrew1

26-11-2021 13:47

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A week or so ago when others were suggesting we would invoke Article 16, I said it was unlikely but we would seek distraction by poking the French French bear Article 16 has not been invoked and the open letter has indeed poked the French bear.

Carth

26-11-2021 13:54

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Pretty delusional in my opinion, calling the French chap a Bear . . . have you told Putin about it?

Hugh	26-11-2021 14:06

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36102624)

what about the looney left agenda you spout???

Nice…

tbf, on the Overton Window, you’d probably be a hinge on the right windowpane…

Carth

26-11-2021 14:13

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36102649)

Nice…

tbf, on the Overton Window, you’d probably be a hinge on the right windowpane…

Wouldn't that then be an unhinged window?

Jaymoss

26-11-2021 14:24

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36102649)

Nice…

tbf, on the Overton Window, you’d probably be a hinge on the right windowpane…

Why ? because I blame the French for escorting boats into British water? because I posted link to videos proving what they do ? for thinking we should make it less attractive for them to come here? That makes me extreme right does it ?? please explain your accusation

mrmistoffelees

26-11-2021 14:37

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36102651)

Escort, to accompany (someone or something) somewhere as an escort.

The video appears to show them stood by and to make no attempt to stop the boat leaving.

Not the same thing.

Jaymoss

26-11-2021 14:39

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36102653)

Escort, to accompany (someone or something) somewhere as an escort.

The video appears to show them stood by and to make no attempt to stop the boat leaving.

Not the same thing.

hahahaha ok notice how they did not stop them in French waters and take them. Deny the truth as much as it is convenient for you

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