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musicbravo 13-08-2009 13:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
This is not a criticism, i'm just interested to know. I know analogue hogs bandwidth, but just how short of space are VM? Are they really that bandwidth constrained? and will this stop them getting HD channels up to say a dozen by analogue switch off in April

Andrewcrawford23 13-08-2009 15:13

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by musicbravo (Post 34853205)
This is not a criticism, i'm just interested to know. I know analogue hogs bandwidth, but just how short of space are VM? Are they really that bandwidth constrained? and will this stop them getting HD channels up to say a dozen by analogue switch off in April

they could add in thoery about another maybe 6-10 hd channels or a combination of sd and hd channels with about 4-5 sd for 1 hd channel, but that is on top fo the space they have left after make both networks the same but if they drop channels form the harmonise process they could add few more

musicbravo 13-08-2009 15:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Thanks Andrew, so all in all not too desperate yet,struggling yes but a little bit of room left.

Media Boy UK 13-08-2009 15:58

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by musicbravo (Post 34853254)
Thanks Andrew, so all in all not too desperate yet,struggling yes but a little bit of room left.

Virgin need room to carry:

In Ex-Telewest areas:
History +1 - will appear (date tbc)
Zee Music, Zee Punjabi - ?
Phoenix CNE - I can see Virgin bining this one
BBC One England, BBC One Scotland, BBC One Northern Ireland, BBC One Wales, BBC Two England - will appear (date tbc)
Radio: Magic Radio, Radio: BBC Radio Scotland, Radio: BBC Radio Wales, Radio: BBC Radio Ulster, Radio: BBC Radio nan Gaidheal, Radio: BBC Radio Cymru, Radio: Kiss 100 - will appear (date tbc).

In Ex-CW & Ex-ntl areas:
Radio: BBC Radio 4 LW - will appear (date tbc)
Radio: RTE Radio 1, Radio: WRN Europe - I can see Virgin bining them.

Andrewcrawford23 13-08-2009 16:06

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by musicbravo (Post 34853254)
Thanks Andrew, so all in all not too desperate yet,struggling yes but a little bit of room left.

No but if they where they could jsut add maybe 3-4 new transport streams to caryr maybe a extra 8 hd channels, or if they got instant acces to sky hd jsut shut off anaologue today , the ceo alreay said if they get access before shut off they would shut the anaologue quicker

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34853265)
Virgin need room to carry:

In Ex-Telewest areas:
History +1 - will appear (date tbc)
Zee Music, Zee Punjabi - ?
Phoenix CNE - I can see Virgin bining this one
BBC One England, BBC One Scotland, BBC One Northern Ireland, BBC One Wales, BBC Two England - will appear (date tbc)
Radio: Magic Radio, Radio: BBC Radio Scotland, Radio: BBC Radio Wales, Radio: BBC Radio Ulster, Radio: BBC Radio nan Gaidheal, Radio: BBC Radio Cymru, Radio: Kiss 100 - will appear (date tbc).

In Ex-CW & Ex-ntl areas:
Radio: BBC Radio 4 LW - will appear (date tbc)
Radio: RTE Radio 1, Radio: WRN Europe - I can see Virgin bining them.


i can see zee channesl coming ot xtw as the asian channel operator want ot get more on virign adn try get it bundle into virign for cheaper it hink (note i aint seen clear evidence for the bundling) but i have seen clear evidence for the channel haromisation and for new asian channels

Media Boy UK 13-08-2009 16:14

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34853269)
No but if they where they could jsut add maybe 3-4 new transport streams to caryr maybe a extra 8 hd channels, or if they got instant acces to sky hd jsut shut off anaologue today , the ceo alreay said if they get access before shut off they would shut the anaologue quicker

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i can see zee channesl coming ot xtw as the asian channel operator want ot get more on virign adn try get it bundle into virign for cheaper it hink (note i aint seen clear evidence for the bundling) but i have seen clear evidence for the channel haromisation and for new asian channels

I have seen no information on when we are going to get an same channel lineup.

Have you?

Andrewcrawford23 13-08-2009 16:23

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34853273)
I have seen no information on when we are going to get an same channel lineup.

Have you?

I cant remember where i seen it, but i seen a report from teh asian channel provider sayig they are trying to get new channesl onto virign, so i would assume they woudl want ot get zee channesl onto both networks. The new channels are also subject to space on virign

Media Boy UK 13-08-2009 16:31

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34853277)
I cant remember where i seen it, but i seen a report from teh asian channel provider sayig they are trying to get new channesl onto virign, so i would assume they woudl want ot get zee channesl onto both networks. The new channels are also subject to space on virign

Sony told me last night that they are in talks with Virgin over adding their ViewAsia package.

Andrewcrawford23 13-08-2009 17:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34853280)
Sony told me last night that they are in talks with Virgin over adding their ViewAsia package.

That probally where then :) but i am sure i seen somewhere that zee ar ein talks with more channesl on virign and getting the chanensl onto xtw

sakiblateef 13-08-2009 18:03

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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34853317)
That probally where then :) but i am sure i seen somewhere that zee ar ein talks with more channesl on virign and getting the chanensl onto xtw

Virgin currently carry all the Zee channels. The only exception was Zee Gujarati but that has closed down.

I know Geo are in discussion with VM to carry their channels. ARY and Star are missing some channels on Virgin and I'm sure they will be looking to launch the rest of the channels on Virgin so that customers on Virgin can get the same deal as Sky or even better.

Andrewcrawford23 13-08-2009 18:12

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by sakiblateef (Post 34853338)
Virgin currently carry all the Zee channels. The only exception was Zee Gujarati but that has closed down.

I know Geo are in discussion with VM to carry their channels. ARY and Star are missing some channels on Virgin and I'm sure they will be looking to launch the rest of the channels on Virgin so that customers on Virgin can get the same deal as Sky or even better.

xtw doesn t have all teh channesl xntl does xtw is missing 2 zee channels

sakiblateef 13-08-2009 18:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34853344)
xtw doesn t have all teh channesl xntl does xtw is missing 2 zee channels

Yes I know that I was just saying that Zee does not need to launch anymore channels on Virgin.

toady 13-08-2009 18:53

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
They added 30 channels earlier in the year and never got past the testing phase

4 Setanta channels have closed since

1 Arsenal has closed

2 ESPN SD channels added

6 HD channels added

If 1 HD channel = 4 SD channels

Then I calculate they have 13 SD channels spare or have I miscalculated :confused:

Media Boy UK 13-08-2009 18:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by toady (Post 34853357)
They added 30 channels earlier in the year and never got past the testing phase

4 Setanta channels have closed since

1 Arsenal has closed

2 ESPN SD channels added

6 HD channels added

If 1 HD channel = 4 SD channels

Then I calculate they have 13 SD channels spare or have I miscalculated :confused:

And 4 Radio channels = 1 SD channel

Andrewcrawford23 13-08-2009 19:13

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by toady (Post 34853357)
They added 30 channels earlier in the year and never got past the testing phase

4 Setanta channels have closed since

1 Arsenal has closed

2 ESPN SD channels added

6 HD channels added

If 1 HD channel = 4 SD channels

Then I calculate they have 13 SD channels spare or have I miscalculated :confused:

your only calculating the space they have from launching closign channels not th spare capicty that still ont eh transport streams


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