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Except that under the terms of the trade deal the British government can be sued by American companies if our interventions or regulations impact on profits, iirc American cigarette companies sued the Australian government recently thanks to their trade deal, that's something new

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Wasn't just the US, so nothing to do with any trade agreement.

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Correct, and in theory Parliament can do that. It would, however, put us in violation of international treaties. Parliament, by convention, respects such treaties even though it is sovereign and is not obliged to. As I said last night, don’t underestimate the power of convention.

I’m not going to get into a boring internet argument over this. It’s pretty clear your grasp of the workings of the British constitution is weak. The principle that Parliament cannot bind its successors is fundamental and simply isn’t up for debate here. If that’s the point you’re trying to argue then feel free to yell at yourself in the mirror, because I’ve got better things to do.

Incidentally I’m happy to confirm “Chris” is my actual name, as several members of this forum who have met me in real life will also attest. ;)

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Trump was a bit too honest today:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48507244

Already this is being used in the Tory leadership contest:

https://twitter.com/MattHancock/stat...09336310460419

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Ah yes, the man who received £32,000 in donations from a think tank that wants the NHS abolished.

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Think tank or lobby group? Or "think tank"? ;)

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tbf, it doesn’t want it abolished - it recommends the NHS should look at some of the options that Francecand Germany use (very successfully).

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Change UK splits as six of 11 MPs become independents.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48515505

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Just a new bit of project fear taken down hook line and sinker by some.:rolleyes:

So the ramshackle grouping of Westminster traitors implodes. One can't but laugh.

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They are going through quite a bit of change at the moment. ;)
But, please let's not use the term traitor just because you disagree with someone's viewpoint.

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Farage given 24 hours by the European Parliament to explain why he did not declare Aaron Banks' funds.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...on-banks-funds

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As pointed out elsewhere the terms of a trade deal would likely seek to make regulation more favourable to American drug and healthcare companies. They won't seek to make the NHS disappear but they will want to protect their interests and maximise profits for the contracts they seek. There are all sorts of things they might push for, most of which I don't really understand to do with how contracts for medicines are made, but a lack of regulation in favour of private business is unlikely to benefit us as taxpayers or patients.

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It's in the trade agreement, the US side have all but finished their side of it apparently and that's in it

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Not on the tenders I've worked on. They have a host of requirements which effectively limit the geographical location where the services can be delivered from.

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The big sticking point during the TTIP talks was the option that private businesses had the option to sue Governments if they did things to negatively impact those businesses.

This is a huge deal in the health industry as public health initiatives can and do affect the profits of the pharmaceutical and healthcare industry who have a vested interest in people being sick

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How the US trade deal undermined Australia’s PBS (Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme).