Originally Posted by MutleyF (Post 35623671)

I would imagine that if they did both go into XL, then there would be an increase in subs to compensate for the cost of supplying.

However, I would expect both to be available as an app only, and thus subscription based

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35623679)

Maybe Virgin could cancel all of their current on demand content contracts for "Virgin Movies" and make Netflix and Lovefilm their default movie on demand providers? Netflix for free in XL and Lovefilm on a pay per view basis for those who want to watch new titles on demand.

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35623668)

BSKYB have lost the rights to show the James Bond movies with all movies except Sky fall showing an expiry date of 30th September 2013 on the On Demand service on sky. This will mean no more Sky movies 007 channel re-brands on sky movies for a while now.

The question is who will pick up the rights the front runner is probably ITV to re pick up the rights I'd like to see the beeb pick up the rights but I can't see it happening tbh

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35623681)

That wouldn't work as neither have recent titles, so you would have to wait years to be able to watch a movie.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35623669)

It doesn't follow that just because Netflix is in the XL pack (as I hope it will be) that Lovefilm would have to be as well.

However, if we did get both in XL, I would be overjoyed! Unfortunately, it just seems too good to be true. Having said that, look at what they must have paid for BT Sports. Those of us who don't like sport haven't benefited at all from this arrangement, so having Netflix and Lovefilm included in XL would make up for this.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35623679)

Maybe Virgin could cancel all of their current on demand content contracts for "Virgin Movies" and make Netflix and Lovefilm their default movie on demand providers? Netflix for free in XL and Lovefilm on a pay per view basis for those who want to watch new titles on demand.

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35623681)

That wouldn't work as neither have recent titles, so you would have to wait years to be able to watch a movie.

Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35623717)

can't see why virgin would want netflix and lovefilm when they do the same job

Originally Posted by Jong1 (Post 35623718)

Could certainly scrap Virgin's anaemic, non-catchup, TV On demand service and replace with Netflix.

It's almost impossible to "discover" stuff on it, certainly much harder than Netflix, which is great at bringing relevant content to your attention, and content comes and goes on whim, with frequently incomplete series and seasons.

Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35623719)

Because they have different content, maybe? You may as well ask why they bother with Sky Movies when they have Picturebox. After all, they both "do the same job" as you put it.

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35623685)

Would be nice if this launched ?

http://www.epixhd.com/

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35623681)

That wouldn't work as neither have recent titles, so you would have to wait years to be able to watch a movie.

Originally Posted by MutleyF (Post 35623720)

I have no problems with it at all

Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35623717)

can't see why virgin would want netflix and lovefilm when they do the same job

Originally Posted by Jong1 (Post 35623730)

Well I'm pleased for you. :)

Almost every time I have tried to watch a "boxed set" on Virgin episodes have either been missing from the start or disappear half way through watching a season.

I've also frequently had misnamed or broken episodes and episodes out of sequence.

Virgin typically only have a few seasons at a time. Netflix typically purchase the entire series from beginning to end.

Netflix tend to buy long term contracts. Virgin's are often only for a few months, requiring a mad dash to view.

And all that is on top of the fact that Virgin have no real way of bringing your attention to the majority of new stuff, so unless you are constantly scanning the index you don't find something has arrived until half way through its viewing window, making the short term contracts all the more problematic.

And Netflix just have so much more content than Virgin. Virign will never I suspect compete, which is why, I guess, they are happy to add it to their service (and full credit to them for that :) )

I am not trying to knock Virgin here. Adding Netflix is great news and their openess to OTT is fantastic. But, other than the "minor" problem that Netflix will not currently be available without a Tivo, if Virgin adds Netflix to their packages I really can't see why they would also want the hassle of doing their own half-A***d job too!

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35623667)

If you think this is likely to be a serious issue, then surely it's evidence in favour of the suggestion that these services will be bundled free of charge in the higher TV packs?

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35623667)

I'm not so sure. The way I see it is (and I'm guessing here) that the majority of people still choose Virgin for broadband first and end up with TV as part of the deal, rather than with Sky where they choose TV first and then take their broadband product. If that's correct, then it stands to reason that the vast majority of Virgin customers (and generalising here, but especially those with a TiVo that have arguably demonstrated a liking of tech by having got one) already have devices capable of accessing Netflix and the like. Couple that with the inertia that customers in this country are renowned for, and I think it unlikely that providing OTT apps will create any significant dent in Virgin's top tier subscriber base.

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35623667)

BUT, isn't it great that I'll have these decisions to make. You can't fault Virgin for the choice they're trying to offer.