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I'm not disputing they do that, but all countries dealing with refugees and asylum claims will have the same problem.
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They come here because they get access to our welfare state.
Simple solution to slow it all down is to give them nothing. Do not house them do not feed them and do not give them money. The French are more than happy to let them try and get across to us. Not their problem any more is it? Turn them back or pick them up and dump them back on the French beaches and stop taking crap from them This tragedy ultimately imo is the Frech Governments and their policy of turning a blind eyes fault Most of you here are far too liberal and likely hate Farage but he has been posting videos and reports proving the French complicity in all this for months https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEW-nd2OsAo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhosPZ5nXSI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyuSrwWl9iY Evidence showing the French escorting them into British waters. Irrefutable |
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This has to be stopped. The EU and UK need to do something drastic before they come in their multi-millions and change, eventually, our culture and society. Geopolitics (Russia, Belarus, Turkey) are the buggeration factors here and, frankly, it's not going to be stopped without deep and purposeful cooperation between the EU and the UK. Greece, Malta and Italy have coastal weaknesses like the UK has. So even if land border walls are built, Greece, Malta and Italy will need enforcement support from all parties seeking to avoid this immigration. ---------- Post added at 15:32 ---------- Previous post was at 15:29 ---------- Quote:
Macron says it's our fault because of the 'pull factor'; Patel says it's the EU's fault because they can't control their borders. ---------- Post added at 15:34 ---------- Previous post was at 15:32 ---------- Quote:
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This whole illegal migrants in boats "crisis" is pure deflection and is designed to pander to the prejudices of the xenophobic, Brexit voting minority and so remove the focus from the far more important problems we face at the moment. We, as a country, take fewer asylum seekers per capita than our European neighbours so have little grounds to complain.
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It is outrageous that the French are allowing this to happen. It is also outrageous that the British Press is not all over this. I would not expect the BBC to but other independent news outlets should be damning the French. The World shoudl be damning the French. They are breaking international law yet our Governement has always been to weak to do anything about it
Yes we need a strong leader that takes no crap. We have not seen one since Thatcher ( although I do not and never did support what she did but she took no crap ) and yes Farage would be that kind of leader ---------- Post added at 15:43 ---------- Previous post was at 15:41 ---------- Quote:
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Ianch is still living the Brexit referendum. A hopeless position.
He talks of deflection from other political issues and that is pure BS. Illegal immigration is an issue in its own right with huge long term implications for society (the children and the grandchildren, etc); same goes for those who overstay their visas, a deflection that he has introduced. ---------- Post added at 16:00 ---------- Previous post was at 15:58 ---------- Quote:
Those migrants come here because the taxpayer will take care of them for quite some while. You don't need a source for that - but if did need one, the French government has said nearly as much in referring to the "pull factor". |
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They get to France and then risk their lives to come here. Why? Here is what an asylum seeker gets "You’ll be given somewhere to live if you need it. This could be in a flat, house, hostel or bed and breakfast. You cannot choose where you live. It’s unlikely you’ll get to live in London or south-east England." "Cash support You’ll get ｣39.63 for each person in your household. This will help you pay for things you need like food, clothing and toiletries. Your allowance will be loaded onto a debit card (ASPEN card) each week. You’ll be able to use the card to get cash from a cash machine. If you’ve been refused asylum You’ll be given: somewhere to live ｣39.63 per person on a payment card for food, clothing and toiletries You will not be given: the payment card if you do not take the offer of somewhere to live any money" "Maternity payment You can apply for a one-off ｣300 maternity payment if your baby is due in 8 weeks or less, or if your baby is under 6 weeks old. If you’ve been refused asylum You can apply for a one-off ｣250 maternity payment if your baby is due in 8 weeks or less, or if your baby is under 6 weeks old." "Healthcare You may get free National Health Service (NHS) healthcare, such as to see a doctor or get hospital treatment. You’ll also get: free prescriptions for medicine free dental care for your teeth free eyesight tests help paying for glasses" https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get Good enough for you ???? If they can get housed so easily why do we have homeless people born here, on our streets??? ---------- Post added at 16:01 ---------- Previous post was at 16:01 ---------- Quote:
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Almost 26,000 'boat' people this year into the UK.
I'd estimate another 250 to 350 thousand here legally. Lets go for a rather conservative figure of 300,000 migrants into the UK this year then. That's 300,000 that need food & drink, power for heating & cooking plus a roof over their head to do it in. Jobs, benefits, or student loans to be able to have those things, with schooling and health care when required. How any was it last year . . 300,000 also? Next years estimate anyone? Close to a million extra people now aren't we . . . now look at some of the headlines lately regarding shortages and price rises. However, it's not bad news, far from it. Economic experts have revealed that migrants contribute ｣｣thousands｣｣ more to the UK than people born & bred here, so we're on a winner, we just can't see it ;) |
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