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Angua 15-11-2018 17:26

Re: Brexit
 
If nothing else, this deal has managed to get remainers and leavers on the same side.

Mick 15-11-2018 18:06

Re: Brexit
 
Sam Coates from Times just said a Souce just claimed No. 10 expecting Gove to resign tonight.

Also just now Penny Mordaunt just arrived in Number 10.

heero_yuy 15-11-2018 18:23

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Quote from Mick:

Sam Coates from Times just said a Source just claimed No. 10 expecting Gove to resign tonight.

Also just now Penny Mordaunt just arrived in Number 10.
Never rains but it pours. :D

Carth 15-11-2018 18:26

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35970978)
Never rains but it pours. :D

has anyone been seen singing in the rain? :D

OLD BOY 15-11-2018 18:40

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35970953)
Who thinks there will be a general election coming soon?

Not me. A new PM at most - the Conservatives do not want to call an election at this volatile time.

heero_yuy 15-11-2018 18:47

Re: Brexit
 
No way there'll be a GE or another referendum. The EU say no renegotiation of May's doomed plan so it's proper Brexit. Which is what the people voted for. For better or worse.

OLD BOY 15-11-2018 18:56

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35970982)
No way there'll be a GE or another referendum. The EU say no renegotiation of May's doomed plan so it's proper Brexit. Which is what the people voted for. For better or worse.

They reckon that there is not sufficient support in the Commons for a no-deal Brexit. They also reckon that there is no support for the best deal we can get from Brussels.

So it seems to me that if both are voted down, we have no agreement in the Commons for either Brexit we can get. So all TM has to do is sit back and do nothing more on this. We will drop out of the EU automatically on 29 March, so we will be in a no-deal Brexit.

So if that is the actual choice that is put to Parliament, MPs will have to vote for the deal, or we are out without one. It really is as simple as that. It has been made clear to us by the EU negotiators that this is as far as they are prepared to go.

1andrew1 15-11-2018 19:28

Re: Brexit
 
Sky Data Survey

In terms of who they would prefer to lead the country through Brexit:
Theresa May - 31%
Jeremy Corbyn - 25%
Jacob Rees-Mogg - 18%
Boris Johnson - 17%
Dominic Raab - 10%

In terms of where they now stand on Brexit:
54% would prefer to remain in the EU
32% would prefer to leave the EU without a deal
14% would prefer a Brexit on the terms negotiated by the government.

Regarding a referendum on these three options:
55% - support a referendum
35% - oppose a referendum
10% - don't know

Sky Data interviewed a nationally representative sample of 1,488 Sky customers via SMS on 15 November 2018. Data are weighted to the profile of the population.
https://news.sky.com/story/majority-...-poll-11555078

Hom3r 15-11-2018 19:36

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35970987)
Sky Data Survey

In terms of who they would prefer to lead the country through Brexit:
Theresa May - 31%
Jeremy Corbyn - 25%
Jacob Rees-Mogg - 18%
Boris Johnson - 17%
Dominic Raab - 10%

In terms of where they now stand on Brexit:
54% would prefer to remain in the EU
32% would prefer to leave the EU without a deal
14% would prefer a Brexit on the terms negotiated by the government.

Regarding a referendum on these three options:
55% - support a referendum
35% - oppose a referendum
10% - don't know

Sky Data interviewed a nationally representative sample of 1,488 Sky customers via SMS on 15 November 2018. Data are weighted to the profile of the population.
https://news.sky.com/story/majority-...-poll-11555078

I can prove anything with these stats, but the truth.

1,488 sky customers, bear in mind about 65,000,000 live in the UK so those stats are crap.

As TM there will NOT be a 2nd referendum.

1andrew1 15-11-2018 20:01

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35970989)
I can prove anything with these stats, but the truth.

1,488 sky customers, bear in mind about 65,000,000 live in the UK so those stats are crap.

Great to have someone from Sky Data services hopping on this forum to bring their insights to the forum. Thank you. ;)

Hugh 15-11-2018 20:21

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35970991)
Great to have someone from Sky Data services hopping on this forum to bring their insights to the forum. Thank you. ;)

From your link
Quote:

Sky Data interviewed a nationally representative sample of 1,488 Sky customers via SMS on 15 November 2018. Data are weighted to the profile of the population.

Pierre 15-11-2018 20:32

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35970984)
So all TM has to do is sit back and do nothing more on this. We will drop out of the EU automatically on 29 March, so we will be in a no-deal Brexit.

So if that is the actual choice that is put to Parliament, MPs will have to vote for the deal, or we are out without one. It really is as simple as that. It has been made clear to us by the EU negotiators that this is as far as they are prepared to go.

This is the bottom line, there is no third way.

It’s either this deal, or no deal. I’m not sure what people expected.......

---------- Post added at 20:32 ---------- Previous post was at 20:26 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35970991)
Great to have someone from Sky Data services hopping on this forum to bring their insights to the forum. Thank you. ;)

1488 is approx 0.0032% of those that voted in the referendum. I don’t care how it was weighted, it is not representative.

ianch99 15-11-2018 20:41

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35970995)
This is the bottom line, there is no third way.

It’s either this deal, or no deal. I’m not sure what people expected

They expected neither so don't forget option d :)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46228454

Gavin78 15-11-2018 20:53

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35970987)
Sky Data Survey

In terms of who they would prefer to lead the country through Brexit:
Theresa May - 31%
Jeremy Corbyn - 25%
Jacob Rees-Mogg - 18%
Boris Johnson - 17%
Dominic Raab - 10%

In terms of where they now stand on Brexit:
54% would prefer to remain in the EU
32% would prefer to leave the EU without a deal
14% would prefer a Brexit on the terms negotiated by the government.

Regarding a referendum on these three options:
55% - support a referendum
35% - oppose a referendum
10% - don't know

Sky Data interviewed a nationally representative sample of 1,488 Sky customers via SMS on 15 November 2018. Data are weighted to the profile of the population.
https://news.sky.com/story/majority-...-poll-11555078

I'm sure you live in hope that it will all go tits up and we will be once again one big happy family in the EU.

It's too late for that now we can't go back on the same terms we left on. I see no deal as the only option to stop us from getting shafted

1andrew1 15-11-2018 21:15

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35971000)
I'm sure you live in hope that it will all go tits up and we will be once again one big happy family in the EU.

It's too late for that now we can't go back on the same terms we left on. I see no deal as the only option to stop us from getting shafted

I'm just reporting a news story. I felt the leader question more important than the others so I put that first. But don't let that stop you drawing hasty conclusions.
I actually think May's plan will happen. There's no united hard leave side, just a bunch of ego-heavy personalities without a plan.


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