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Dingbat 30-06-2026 18:32
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36218651)
Immigration, including small boats, is down by quite a bit now? Not really sure Burnham will be able to do much more.
Certainly down a massive amount since the time Jenrick and Braverman were in charge of it.

Hugh 30-06-2026 19:17
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Did Starmer fail on immigration? YES. Did Starmer fail on energy policy? YES. Did Trump say that? YES. Words of value? YES.

Words by an otherwise bad egg? YES.

Could you clarify how Starmer failed in immigration, please, as the figures appear to show otherwise…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1782847014

TheDaddy 30-06-2026 20:06
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36218664)
Could you clarify how Starmer failed in immigration, please, as the figures appear to show otherwise…
Tuts, you can prove anything with figures, especially if there's a graph attached, doesn't beat a gut feeling, especially if its got a good dose of bias on the side

Sephiroth 30-06-2026 20:23
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36218664)
Could you clarify how Starmer failed in immigration, please, as the figures appear to show otherwise…
Boats, man. Boats - with military age likely/potential enemies of a conflicting culture.

1andrew1 30-06-2026 20:38
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36218669)
Boats, man. Boats - with military age likely/potential enemies of a conflicting culture.
So are you saying it was better under Laurel & Hardy?(Jenrick and Braverman).

Carth 30-06-2026 21:02
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36218670)
So are you saying it was better under Laurel & Hardy?(Jenrick and Braverman).
It's not better under anybody.

Sephiroth 30-06-2026 21:08
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36218670)
So are you saying it was better under Laurel & Hardy?(Jenrick and Braverman).
Why pivot on that nonsense? The Rwanda flight was a week away but no, "smash the gangs, smash the gangs" was Starmer's mantra.

Those stashed guns in the Iranian Embassy basement are waiting.

jfman 30-06-2026 21:20
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Comedy move by Sir Keir to gift Andy a £4.7bn hole in the transfer of our wealth to the military industrial complex.

1andrew1 30-06-2026 21:23
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36218674)
Comedy move by Sir Keir to gift Andy a £4.7bn hole in the transfer of our wealth to the military industrial complex.
Yes, an expensive knife in the back!

Chris 30-06-2026 23:10
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36218674)
Comedy move by Sir Keir to gift Andy a £4.7bn hole in the transfer of our wealth to the military industrial complex.
The comedy lies in the fact that the hole is at least £5 billion too small. I don’t know if you noticed but the second Cold War has been on for a good few years now, and we’re woefully ill-equipped.

Hugh 01-07-2026 06:58
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36218669)
Boats, man. Boats - with military age likely/potential enemies of a conflicting culture.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/...rrer=deep-link

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Returns and deportations from the UK, April 2025 to March 2026
39,007 up 7% over 12 months
Home Office data, as of 21 May 2026

Arrivals by small boat, 1 January 2026 to 25 June 2026
11,638 down 37% same period 2025
Home Office data, as of 26 June 2026

jfman 01-07-2026 08:14
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36218679)
The comedy lies in the fact that the hole is at least £5 billion too small. I don’t know if you noticed but the second Cold War has been on for a good few years now, and we’re woefully ill-equipped.
Even if the second Cold War is happening - which I doubt - throwing billions at the MoD for more project managers to procure more equipment, inadequate before it even reaches the field, designed for warfare 30 years ago, isn’t the answer.

NATO combined military spending is over $1.5 trillion. Eclipsing that of China, Russia, Iran and North Korea combined. Another £5bn here or there is won’t touch the sides of the underlying problem. The military industrial complex has no incentive to drive efficiencies if everyone just writes it a blank cheque.

papa smurf 01-07-2026 08:35
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36218679)
The comedy lies in the fact that the hole is at least £5 billion too small. I don’t know if you noticed but the second Cold War has been on for a good few years now, and we’re woefully ill-equipped.
yea but shafting andy burnham is the right thing to do

1andrew1 01-07-2026 10:42
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36218683)
yea but shafting andy burnham is the right thing to do
Why? A bit petty surely?

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36218673)
Why pivot on that nonsense? The Rwanda flight was a week away but no, "smash the gangs, smash the gangs" was Starmer's mantra.
The Rwanda idea was never going to work, it was a last minute thing designed to win votes.

Sephiroth 01-07-2026 10:52
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36218692)
Why? A bit petty surely?

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The Rwanda idea was never going to work, it was a last minute thing designed to win votes.
Like “smash the gangs” was gonna work? At least see how the Rwanda removal would work.


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