Cable Forum - Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Mick's point about Johnson being willing to spark a constitutional crisis rather than resign might be right: https://twitter.com/mikeysmith/statu...58131183190019

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Well-placed source convinced Boris Johnson won’t quit, even if the 22 change the rules, and he loses a VONC.

Instead, he’ll claim he has a mandate from 14m voters, and will threaten to force an election - but not before deselecting everyone who voted against him

Johnson thinking only of himself, and not abiding by the rules, accepted standards, and expectations of appropriate behaviour?

Well, who'd have possibly thought it?

It's not as if his past history and behaviours could have possibly given anyone any idea this is how he might behave...

Remember the 7 Nolan principles of standards in public life (how politicians, civil servants, charity trustees etc are bound to act in public roles)

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1 Selflessness.
2 Integrity.
3 Objectivity.
4 Accountability.
5 Openness.
6 Honesty.
7 Leadership

To paraphase the dearly departed Mr Loaf - "One (if that) out of Seven ain't bad...".

mrmistoffelees

06-07-2022 14:21

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36127223)

Mick's point about Johnson being willing to spark a constitutional crisis rather than resign might be right: https://twitter.com/mikeysmith/statu...58131183190019

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Presumably it's too much to hope that if this behaviour were to occur it would be breaching any sort of criminal law? Would be rather funny watching him being carried out in cuffs, a spit hood and leg restraints....

GrimUpNorth

06-07-2022 14:30

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

So we've got to 26, sorry 27 as I type, resignations since 6pm last night. Wonder how many by 6pm today?

Was it ever this bad at the heyday of people refusing to work for Jezza?

You know it's bad when even OB is missing in action.

Damien

06-07-2022 14:32

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

6 ministers have gone in the last few mins, Gove has told Johnson to go.

Can't see how Johnson can string this out to force a VONC. He won't have any Ministers left.

Dave42

06-07-2022 14:40

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

Exclusive: Michael Gove tells PM ‘it’s time to go

https://www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/n...its-time-to-go

Beth Rigby
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Just spoken to another (loyal) cab min: "The game is up, this is not survivable. I can't see lasting the day and those suggesting he stays on not doing him any favours. I'm in the trenches with him, but we're outgunned, out manoeuvred & out of ammunition"

https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status...76837510594560

ianch99

06-07-2022 14:45

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36127208)

Where Gove in all of this? I suspect getting ready for his big chance ..

Worth repeating :)

Pierre

06-07-2022 14:47

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36127229)

6 ministers have gone in the last few mins, Gove has told Johnson to go.

Can't see how Johnson can string this out to force a VONC. He won't have any Ministers left.

If this doesn’t bring him down, nothing will.

jonbxx

06-07-2022 14:48

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

Resigning in bulk now - 5 in one letter. There aren't going to many Parliamentary Private Secretaries or Under Secretaries left at this rate. I guess each and every minister and PPS is judging the value of Boris Johnson patronage and what will happen if and when he goes. Those ministers who are fiercely loyal to Johnson (Dorries, Truss, Patel, Rees-Mogg, Old Boy :D ) are gong to spend a loooooong time on the back benches...

Mr K	06-07-2022 14:49

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36127223)

Mick's point about Johnson being willing to spark a constitutional crisis rather than resign might be right: https://twitter.com/mikeysmith/statu...581311831900198

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Let me guess just like his best buddy, he's going to get his supporter(s) to storm Parliament with guns/gins ;)

Pierre

06-07-2022 14:51

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

A word of warning, those wanting Johnson gone are those who think he isn’t conservative enough.

A period of austerity beckons, after he is toppled.

Don’t expect anymore handouts anytime soon.

Dave42

06-07-2022 14:57

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

Sam Coates just said on sky news some cabinet ministers have told Johnson to go

jfman

06-07-2022 15:11

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36127236)

those wanting Johnson gone

Everyone?

Dave42

06-07-2022 15:12

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36127236)

A word of warning, those wanting Johnson gone are those who think he isn’t conservative enough.

A period of austerity beckons, after he is toppled.

Don’t expect anymore handouts anytime soon.

majority of tories want him gone even

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics...ow-want-boris-

Damien

06-07-2022 15:22

Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36127236)

A word of warning, those wanting Johnson gone are those who think he isn’t conservative enough.

A period of austerity beckons, after he is toppled.

Don’t expect anymore handouts anytime soon.

That is the motivation behind some of his detractors but that group never got the numbers. It's these scandals that are toppling him and ultimately MPs who think the gig is up and are worried for their own seats.

I think another bout of austerity during a cost-of-living crisis and an NHS with very high waiting times will be a bold move from his successor (if he goes).