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Go to http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...ht/default.stm and check out the panel "Latest programme available for 24 hours after broadcast".

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ANd you think they're not going to see that as a form of attack on them? (Which it would be, of course. Think of the economic ramifications.)

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For those of us who like a reasoned discussion then BNP leader Nick Griffin is to appear on Newsnight tonight commenting on those cartoons.

Unless the public funded pro [insert party name here] BBC decides that it may cause offense to a minority that is :(

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try the newsnight website and click on the latest programme video link.

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I'm not pulling anybodys beliefs down - it's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I just happen to believe that the phrase 'Muslims speak with forked tongue' is unacceptable - that's my opinion.

I'm also interested in what you think 'people like me' are. At no point have I come out in support of some peoples actions over the weekend - what I have supported is action being taken against people who deliberately attempted to 'fan the flames' by distributing copies of the pictures.

For the record, I'm not bothered about Britain being Christian, Muslim, or Zoro-Astrian - I like Britain as the big, multi-cultural melting pot that it's been since I was born and, quite frankly, there's a minority within each religion (and amongst atheists as well) who need to sit down and shut up, and appreciate the fact that Britain is multi-cultural.

Oh, and I swear that if I hear one more person say they're going to vote for the BNP because 'they'll sort it all out', I'm going to go mental. I support anyone's right to support whoever they want, but seeing as that bunch of bigots are the worst of the lot, I personally feel that we'd be better of without them.

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He is really. Allah is the Arabic word for God, so the word Allah is actually a noun, rather than a common name.

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Excuse me but how many Muslims were on the streets of Britain protesting last week?This week?How many were not?Which was the larger percentage of the Muslim population?You are in danger of over reacting just like the extremists in the Muslim world.Anyway what's wrong with us no longer just being a christian country anymore? As long as the head of the country is still a practicing Christian than you can have no worry about that.;)

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OK

For ONE, I havent tarred and feathered anybody
For TWO if the muslim leaders are as powerfull as they seem to think they are, could they not stop this before it happened, or perhaps tipped off people before it happened, I dont know anything, instead of distancing themselves in words and NOT actions form the idiots that did protest.

Equally, why is it, that I cant walk down the street saying white power, yet these "protestors" can call for the murder of a race and not be arrested?
Double standards? certainly looks like it doesnt it?
The MET claim they are working on arrests, funny that, Had it been a BNP rally all arrests would have taken place at the time.
I find it hilarious that the riot police can beat pregnant women and children at stone henge but mustn't anger the protesters that happen to be muslim in faith. What did the police do to the poll tax demostrations? to the miners strikes? but oh no we must not be seen as racist.
**** racism **** anti racism **** left wing politics **** right wing politics, its time we acted in our own self interest instead of pandering to everyone and their dog.
You commit a crime you get arrested, colour sex or religion does NOT come into it.
I'm pig sick of people whinging about rights of these people rights of those people, what about our rights? our right to be safe, to be protected. It was mighty pleasing to see it all get swept away and hidden under the carpet because of a pathetic few.
If a crime is committed it is the responsibility of the police to apprehend those committing it without delay. Funny how they can arrest white people for inciting racial hatred, but wont areest colured people for the same crime. That in itself is RACIST.

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Is there a way of saving that show to my hard drive?

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He's awesome. We need him standing up along side representatives from the MCB and imams from the UK's biggest mosques to prove that the prevailing perception of Islam isn't the only one.

My guess is though, this guy, if he gets found out, would face terrible retribution for his apparent siding with the cartoons and his comments against Islam. Rushdie had a death warrant put on his head for much less.

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You are still over reacting IMHO.It's not like every muslim is out on the streets is it?If they were then you might have a point.And I'm sure that there will be repercussions for those who were behaving illegally eventually.In fact I believe the person dressed as a bomber is back in jail. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4687996.stm.How much quicker could you want them to be.

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For now.

While you may well wish to ignore the nutter minority in whatever faith faction, it is the stated aim of this specific faith faction to convert the entire World to it's credo.

And since that doesn't leave any room for a multi-cultured anywhere, I suggest rather than assume the laid back "it'll be allright" approach, you might like to consider the implications of doing so, and of appeasing one faith faction in the vain hope that they'll lay off their domination ideas.

It didn't work for Chamberlain either - we still ended up with WWII!
They're no more going to solve this country's problems than any of the political parties can. No one party has all the answers - but it's not until all the parties realise that each may have some of the answers and that they work together to make the best of them, that we'll have any significant progress on any of the major issues.

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I never get offensive about any religion, I am not religious and I have no beliefs. I do however feel people who get annoyed over such silly issues such as these cartoons prove they are religiously brainwashed, or using it as an excuse/lever to flex their muscles.

I accept that religious people have their own beliefs and they should accept that non believers have their own beliefs. The key issue is these people will not accept that other religions or non-believers could have a valid point.

All this fuss just makes a mockery of more important issues going on in the world.:mad:

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thats it nugget sit on the fence.but believe me the day will come when you will have to choose one way or the other,because if the extremist muslims get there way you will have to turn muslim or get the chop.because in there world there won't be any multi cultural society that you like to live in.
and before you say that won't happen.how many extremist muslims were there 20 years ago a few,and how many now a few thousand say.its only a question of mathamatics and time.

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I think you'll find it means a bit more to Muslims than simply 'a noun'...

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Sitting on the fence? How exactly am I sitting on the fence?

What is it you know that the rest of us don't? The day will come when I have to make a choice? I can categorically state that I will never 'turn Muslim' (and I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate you for yet another wonderful turn of phrase :rolleyes: ) - that's got nothing to do with me disagreeing with Islam or siding with Christianity though; it's to do with the fact that I don't belief in God or Allah. As I've said before, I'm an atheist, so I'm hardly going to make a choice between a God I don't believe in and another God I don't believe in.

One of the reasons people come out and say 'there won't be a multi-cultural society' is because they don't like the one that they live in. I, on the other hand, appreciate what everybody brings to this country - I accept that some Muslims have acted in an irresponsible manner over the last few days, but Christians are just as capable of acting like @rses when it suits.

Oh, and if you want a reason for the increase in the number of extremists or radicals in the world nowadays, may I respectfully suggest that you start by studying American foreign policy over the last 10 years - it might give you a few pointers as to why the western world (and particularly the US and UK) are so bloody unpopular...