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I bet you've not long learned that.

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I agree 100%, but it is good manners to try to leave the place tidy behind us. ;)

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I'm sure God or a meteorite will sort out what needs to be done :)

I was reading the other day that the earth has gone through I think 9 stages of big change due to meteorites (a great big stone)
we could all live in the dark ages for the sake of saving the planet, and find all our efforts destroyed just like that :)

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The basis of risk analysis* is likelyhood and impact - so the impact (in so many different ways) of a meteorite hitting earth is high, the likelyhood is extremely low; whilst the impact of Climate Change is medium-high, and the likelyhood is medium-high, this equates to a higher risk than a rock from space.

However, if you have concerns about another dinosaur-killer coming along, you may find this useful.

btw, it's not about living in the dark ages, it's just about making adjustments to mitigate the risk.

*Risk Analysis consists of
(1) Identification of possible negative external and internal conditions, events, or situations
(2) Determination of cause-and-effect (causal) relationships between probable happenings, their magnitude, and likely outcomes
(3) Evaluation of various outcomes under different assumptions, and under different probabilities that each outcome will take place
(4) Application of qualitative and quantitative techniques to reduce uncertainty of the outcomes and associated costs, liabilities, or losses.

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They were fooling us all along :D

Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,
Once Tim’s got a diagram here we’ll send that either later today or first thing tomorrow.
I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline. Mike’s series got the annual land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999 for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.


Warmist conspiracy exposed? | Herald Sun Andrew Bolt Blog

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Open Letter to Climate Change Minister Nick Smith

From retired climate scientist Dr Gerrit van der Lingen, of Christchurch
16 October 2009

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0911/S00214.htm

The scam has been busted.

Re: Global warming 'past the point of no return'
 

IIRC there have been two separate recent nature/wildlife programs on BBC TV where the narrator said that conditions were the coldest on record.

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Global warming is a crappy and imprecise term.


However climate change means climate change and that involves increased instability in climate and weather patterns before settling down again at some indefinite point in the future. For the British Isles, kept warm by the gulf stream, climate change might very well mean we will first subject to colder, possibly wetter conditions.

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Link

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There's a paper entitled "Late Quaternary ostracod and planktonic foraminiferal dissolution signals from the eastern Tasman Sea - palaeoenvironmental implications" in the 1994 International Workshop on the Late Quaternary Palaeoceanography of the Australasian Region. Gripping stuff :tu:

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I'm waiting for the film to come out.

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at the moment my house is 300 meters from the beach, if global warming is actually happening and the seas rise i will soon be living in a beach side property and i can keep my cabin cruiser in the garden .

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Something to look forward to, then. :)

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Here they go again

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8375576.stm

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It's the poorer countries which will suffer most, then you'll have a massive refugee problem heading our way.