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Carth 07-12-2021 13:54

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36104623)
Interesting Twitter chat between Andrew Neil and Julia Hartley-Brewer. He's coming across in a statesmanlike manner.

What's so interesting about that?

You could substitute the two names there for any two names on here and get the same conversation :D

jonbxx 07-12-2021 14:40

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36104618)
Bloody hell, can all you scientific lot slow down for those of us that are thick please ;)

Is SARS-COV-2 just a different name for Covid 19? I'm getting lost and a little uninterested in all these fancy acronyms etc :D

Is there a 'clever' name for Flu and pneumonia?

Science people love acronyms to look clever and to be able to write something meaningful on teeny tiny test tubes

As Chris said, COVID-19 is a COronaVIrus Disease discovered in 2019 - the illness basically. The virus which causes it is Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus number 2 - SARS-COV-2

Pierre 07-12-2021 14:42

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36104623)
Interesting Twitter chat between Andrew Neil and Julia Hartley-Brewer. He's coming across in a statesmanlike manner.

If you mean we should head towards being an authoritative police state where we have to show our papers in order to go about our business - is statesmanlike - then yes he is.

jfman 07-12-2021 15:22

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36104631)
If you mean we should head towards being an authoritative police state where we have to show our papers in order to go about our business - is statesmanlike - then yes he is.

You're lucky if you can find police to check your papers with austerity.

Hugh 07-12-2021 15:25

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Pierre 07-12-2021 15:49

Re: Coronavirus
 
Of course, that makes perfect sense..........not.

What if, and I'm being hypothetical just like that graph - you know "imagining", the Omicron strain was so mild it was no worse than a bad cold and didn't kill anyone?


That would kind of make that "hypothetical" graph a load of bollocks, wouldn't it? I mean hypothetically speaking.

Sephiroth 07-12-2021 15:55

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If Omicron takes hold and Delta's still running why wouldn't they both make up the stats?

Chris 07-12-2021 15:57

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36104646)
If Omicron takes hold and Delta's still running why wouldn't they both make up the stats?

A more transmissible virus will outcompete its rivals for host bodies to infect because it can get to them more quickly. Omicron will be pretty much the only show in town before long. We’re finding it by the dozen this week because we’re looking for it but you can bet it is already far more prevalent than stats suggest, and I suspect it’s been here a little longer than we think too.

Sephiroth 07-12-2021 16:02

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36104648)
A more transmissible virus will outcompete its rivals for host bodies to infect because it can get to them more quickly. Omicron will be pretty much the only show in town before long. We’re finding it by the dozen this week because we’re looking for it but you can bet it is already far more prevalent than stats suggest, and I suspect it’s been here a little longer than we think too.

Then why is everybody encouraged to get the jab against the flu virus?

Chris 07-12-2021 16:04

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36104649)
Then why is everybody encouraged to get the jab against the flu virus?

Has nomad hacked your account? Assuming this is Seph and you’re not intentionally peddling non-sequiturs, could you clarify your question? :p:

Sephiroth 07-12-2021 16:34

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36104650)
Has nomad hacked your account? Assuming this is Seph and you’re not intentionally peddling non-sequiturs, could you clarify your question? :p:

Nah - I've though this through again and I do know that in the real world, all sorts of viruses circulate. It would thus seem to me that it's all going on at the same time and flu numbers will be depressed by the people getting Covid.


jonbxx 07-12-2021 16:58

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36104652)
Nah - I've though this through again and I do know that in the real world, all sorts of viruses circulate. It would thus seem to me that it's all going on at the same time and flu numbers will be depressed by the people getting Covid.


Having COVID wouldn't protect you from getting the flu unfortunately. It would be a bad day at the office if you got both at the same time though.

The measures taken in the past such as social distancing, masks, handwashing and lockdowns would reduce flu levels as a handy side effect though. I suppose if you isolate due to COVID, you are less likely to get flu but that's only a couple of weeks out of circulation.

What we really don't want is lots of people getting the flu while lots of people have COVID. That would clog things up rapidly in hospitals. The double whammy of COVID and flu vaccines is very helpful here.

1andrew1 07-12-2021 16:59

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36104652)
Nah - I've though this through again and I do know that in the real world, all sorts of viruses circulate. It would thus seem to me that it's all going on at the same time and flu numbers will be depressed by the people getting Covid.


Does Covid give you immunity to flu?
(I would have thought working from home and wearing face masks would reduce the spread of flu.)

jfman 07-12-2021 17:02

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36104654)
Does Covid give you immunity to flu?
(I would have thought working from home and wearing face masks would reduce the spread of flu.)

Covid doesn’t even give you immunity to Covid :D

Taf 07-12-2021 17:49

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