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It's worth delving into the issues cited in their lettter - it's increased costs and red tape that are making them less productive and viable.

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Sending a container load of goods by sea, may only involve internal transport. Businesses in the UK have been used to taking the goods by lorry across the EU without issue, this is what the simple view of changes is ignoring. When paperwork is needed not only for goods, but the vehicle and driver and VAT and duty, it ends up with massive amounts of bureaucracy.

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You can't vaccine-wash away the issues faced by hard-working British business men and women, Seph. Talk of Remain arguments is poppycock, we left the EU and you need to move on and bat for British business. Making a success of Brexit doesn't mean pretending these issues don't exist.

Countries do most of their trade with those closest to them - as British business has repeatedly pointed out.

This is due to the gravity of trade. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravit...de#:~:text=The gravity model of international trade in international,evidence that trade tends to fall with distance."

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One problem is with food products is that they are ready now, you often can't just wait to sort things out. The lead times are also less easy to vary than "dead stuff".

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55904189

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And there is this

UK border chaos as trucks get waivers - trade rules SCRAPPED in angry scenes
TENSIONS over the Northern Ireland protocol have escalated into "troubling" threats to trade staff, forcing post-Brexit food checks at Larne and Belfast ports to be suspended over safety concerns.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...in-poots-daera

The graffiti objected to the perceived "Irish Sea border" imposed as a result of terms of the Brexit trade deal with the EU.

Ulster loyalists, who oppose any divergence between Northern Ireland the rest of the UK, are believed to be behind the messages.

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I'm not sure what forum opinion has got to do with anything. Should we ignore news stories that don't fit a positive agenda or try and make things work better for the good of the country?

How short-term is short term? It's now over a month since we started operating according to the terms of the trade agreement and things don't look fantastic. That's even with EU imports not being checked, that only happens in July.

Seafood company Samways explains that the issues are more fundamental than just teething troubles. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/business-55847259

And short-term seems to be permanent if you're a shellfisherman. EU shellfish import ban permanent, UK fishing industry told

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Highlighting issues is not saying it’s a disaster -you’re putting forward a straw man argument that no one has stated.

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:tu:

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These straw men get everywhere on here !

Back in the real world firms are seeing increased costs. E.g. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-...shire-55894650
The fall out is coming which is going to cost jobs.

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They do seem to get about more than the Elf on the Shelf after the parents have had a few dry sherries. ;)