Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35956294)

Nonsense! I used to record four or five programmes from Sky One every week. There is nothing worth recording these days. Strikeback excepted.

More channels does not mean increased quality content. It just means more dross to fill it out.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35956277)

It's not speculation. Every other platform gets paid for carrying channels, but for some strange reason, this is not the case for VM (except the shopping channels, I believe). As UKTV don't pay other platforms for carrying their free channels, why should VM subscribers pay for mostly repeated content funded by advertising?

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VM should not be paying for free channels. This practice is a hangover from the past.

A bit like the UKTV channels, actually. :erm:

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Not sure if your memory is failing you, but those were the days when Sky did have good programmes on it. In fact, the main draw of people to the pay tv channels was Sky TV.

UKTV has nowhere near as much clout and they will lose this fight. The sooner they realise that and climb down from their high horses, the sooner they will bleed less money.

They had better move fast, or Virgin will be reinvesting their money, hopefully in superior content.

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They will get over it. And if you think you are safe with Sky, remember that they almost lost the Discovery channels a few months ago.

Fortunately, Discovery saw sense. UKTV are trying it on. The people complaining are simply dragging this dispute out. If they quietened down, UKTV would be forced to re-consider. I am not expecting VM to give in over this, so the ball is in UKTV's court. Are they going to continue to discriminate against VM by making them pay for their free channels when other platforms get them free, or not?

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35956294)

Nonsense! I used to record four or five programmes from Sky One every week. There is nothing worth recording these days. Strikeback excepted.

More channels does not mean increased quality content. It just means more dross to fill it out.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35956294)

More channels does not mean increased quality content. It just means more dross to fill it out.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35956307)

Thats just your personal viewing , the fact the Sky channels now get better viewer numbers is exactly that a FACT.

I never mentioned anything about more channels !!!!

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35956297)

Incorrect. On every other platform the FTA broadcasters have to pay someone for distribution, capacity and an EPG allocation, not for content.

This is also the case for VM, but made more complicated by the fact that they are the sole provider of distribution, capacity and the EPG on the cable platform. These costs where VM has agreed to pay for content will either be netted off or taken into account when negotiating carriage costs. By law, however, the EPG fee must always be clearly shown as a quantifiable transaction for every channel.

With the removal of Quest HD, Premier Sports going back to a frozen screen this morning and VM Ireland customers losing access to their UKTV recordings (despite being promised a three month grace period), could this be a contender for the worst week ever for VM?

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35956308)

More choice the better, OB as we agreed earlier? Your dross, is somebodies must see. Your must see, is somebody else's dross.

However think most agree the replacement channels are dross.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35956308)

More choice the better, OB as we agreed earlier? Your dross, is somebodies must see. Your must see, is somebody else's dross.

However think most agree the replacement channels are dross.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35956313)

You've been ditching it for the last few years.:D:rolleyes:

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OB struggles with this :D

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35956273)

Be honest you haven't a clue who pays what so no point speculating.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35956294)

Nonsense! I used to record four or five programmes from Sky One every week. There is nothing worth recording these days. Strikeback excepted.

More channels does not mean increased quality content. It just means more dross to fill it out.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35956311)

OB I love how you seem to talk like you are the authority on quality , the last few days you've been telling everyone how UKTV is rubbish and Virgin are adding better options.

You seem incapable of accepting everyone enjoys different things and everyone differs on what they class as quality and rubbish.

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 35956247)

What we don't know is how many people have ACTUALLY cancelled their VM services.

In my case, I would like to as I watch Drama a lot, mainly The Bill and He De Hi.

Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 35956323)

Hi De Hi, drama,really.That show was not funny 20 years ago nevermind today:o:
Good riddance to bad rubbish i say.Sorry.

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35956333)

A classic or not, they are two terrible tv shows to be watching in 2018 on a HD or 4K tv.

I don't mind people enjoying them, but there are better things out there now. I wouldn't leave virgin just because those shows aren't available anymore.

I didn't watch much UKTV content, but did watch the 1st episode of Harrow. It was good, but it won't make me leave virgin because it has gone.

We need virgin to be pushing boundaries with new content, not stuck with 1980s tv shows.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35956334)

Like the Waltons, Little House on the Prairie and old Neighbours ?