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Mr K 19-08-2017 13:19
Re: Crisis in the NHS
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ephen-hawking/
Quote:
Jeremy Hunt has taken on famous scientist Stephen Hawking, firing off tweets defending himself against the professor's earlier criticism

Mr Hunt has been mocked and questioned by social media users, who said he is "trying to school the world's most famous scientist on numbers and evidence."
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Oh dear, maybe Jeremy should just keep quiet sometimes and have a cold shower in his new £44k bathroom...

1andrew1 22-08-2017 21:38
Re: Crisis in the NHS
 
An issue I hope David Davis is engaged on
Quote:
Brexit ‘can help solve nursing shortage’
Ireland should poach European Union doctors and nurses working in the UK who are worried about Brexit, Fianna Fáil has said.
The HSE has had a chronic staff shortage in recent years and the Irish Nurses and Midwives Organisation (INMO) estimates there are around 3,500 fewer nurses now than in 2009.
Billy Kelleher, the Fianna Fáil health spokesman, said that the HSE should target medical professionals from EU countries that may have to relocate as a result of Britain leaving the union. “The fact of the matter is clear: the HSE has a severe shortage of doctors and nurses working in our hospitals and in our communities,” he said.
“There are approximately 135,000 EU nationals working in the UK’s NHS. While not everyone would consider moving to Ireland, there are potentially enough doctors and nurses willing to move that could have a dramatic impact on our capacity shortages.
“Many of these professionals may not have the right to stay working there post-Brexit, and there may be some who choose not to stay working in a non-EU country. For those who do not want to return to their home countries, Ireland is an ideal alternative.”
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/i...tage-sg9ntfkhd

Julian 22-08-2017 23:03
Re: Crisis in the NHS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35913191)
https://www.theguardian.com/science/...y_to_clipboard
It's something we all know, and just seem to accept, but good for Prof. Hawking. Wonder what he thinks to the £44,000 bathroom Jeremy Hunt ordered for his office ?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7891846.html
Not sure why his opinion is any more relevant than any other dozy old git down the pub.....

Mick 02-01-2018 19:31
Re: Crisis in the NHS
 
BREAKING: ALL Hospitals Accident and Emergency dept. in England have been placed in emergency measures.

Quote:
Extreme pressure on A&E departments is having a massive knock-on effect in hospitals in England, with emergency measures in place.

Hospitals in England are being advised to cancel all elective operations and in-patient treatments until the end of January in response to extreme pressure on A&E departments over the Christmas and New Year period.

With many hospitals running at close to full capacity, NHS England's National Emergency Pressures Panel (NEPP) has also said hospitals will not be penalised if patients are admitted to mixed-sex wards.
https://news.sky.com/story/hospitals...ssure-11193433

Damien 02-01-2018 19:32
Re: Crisis in the NHS
 
All operations and in-patient treatments cancelled until the end of the month across England? :shocked:

Mick 02-01-2018 19:36
Re: Crisis in the NHS
 
My Family has been the victim of the consequences of the above measures.

Earlier on.... My one year old nephew stopped breathing this afternoon, his mum (My sister) had to essentially give him a gentle kiss of life and he started breathing again, she called an Ambulance to be told, they are extremely busy. She did not want to have him driven down in case he stopped breathing again and he was in traffic, the Ambulance has arrived as of 7pm, some 2 hours, 40 minutes later since they were first rang.

How on Earth can this be happening in the 21st Century?

It pains me to see this happening and it hurts more when it's your own flesh and blood. :(

Damien 02-01-2018 19:53
Re: Crisis in the NHS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35930755)
My Family has been the victim of the consequences of the above measures.

Earlier on.... My one year old nephew stopped breathing this afternoon, his mum (My sister) had to essentially give him a gentle kiss of life and he started breathing again, she called an Ambulance to be told, they are extremely busy. She did not want to have him driven down in case he stopped breathing again and he was in traffic, the Ambulance has arrived as of 7pm, some 2 hours, 40 minutes later since they were first rang.

How on Earth can this be happening in the 21st Century?

It pains me to see this happening and it hurts more when it's your own flesh and blood. :(
Sorry that is happening to your nephew Mick. :(

denphone 02-01-2018 20:00
Re: Crisis in the NHS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35930752)
BREAKING: ALL Hospitals Accident and Emergency dept. in England have been placed in emergency measures.



https://news.sky.com/story/hospitals...ssure-11193433
l cannot say l am surprised like many by that.

---------- Post added at 20:00 ---------- Previous post was at 19:57 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35930755)
My Family has been the victim of the consequences of the above measures.

Earlier on.... My one year old nephew stopped breathing this afternoon, his mum (My sister) had to essentially give him a gentle kiss of life and he started breathing again, she called an Ambulance to be told, they are extremely busy. She did not want to have him driven down in case he stopped breathing again and he was in traffic, the Ambulance has arrived as of 7pm, some 2 hours, 40 minutes later since they were first rang.

How on Earth can this be happening in the 21st Century?

It pains me to see this happening and it hurts more when it's your own flesh and blood. :(
So sorry to hear about your nephew Mick as l hope and pray that he will be alright.

1andrew1 02-01-2018 20:02
Re: Crisis in the NHS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35930755)
My Family has been the victim of the consequences of the above measures.

Earlier on.... My one year old nephew stopped breathing this afternoon, his mum (My sister) had to essentially give him a gentle kiss of life and he started breathing again, she called an Ambulance to be told, they are extremely busy. She did not want to have him driven down in case he stopped breathing again and he was in traffic, the Ambulance has arrived as of 7pm, some 2 hours, 40 minutes later since they were first rang.

How on Earth can this be happening in the 21st Century?

It pains me to see this happening and it hurts more when it's your own flesh and blood. :(
Very sorry to read this Mick. At least he's now in the best possible hands and I wish him a speedy recovery.

TheDaddy 02-01-2018 20:06
Re: Crisis in the NHS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35930755)
My Family has been the victim of the consequences of the above measures.

Earlier on.... My one year old nephew stopped breathing this afternoon, his mum (My sister) had to essentially give him a gentle kiss of life and he started breathing again, she called an Ambulance to be told, they are extremely busy. She did not want to have him driven down in case he stopped breathing again and he was in traffic, the Ambulance has arrived as of 7pm, some 2 hours, 40 minutes later since they were first rang.

How on Earth can this be happening in the 21st Century?

It pains me to see this happening and it hurts more when it's your own flesh and blood. :(
Private ambulance crews are on strike where I live, they get paid 7.80 per hour and my pal who is all but a paramedic is only on 10 per hour, the company has been bought out but successive foreign companies who just keep cutting, the horror stories I've heard about the conditions and the standards of crews such conditions attract is truly shocking. All the best to your nephew Mick terrible for his mum to have to sit there panicking for so long to on top of that to

Mr K 02-01-2018 20:30
Re: Crisis in the NHS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35930755)
My Family has been the victim of the consequences of the above measures.

Earlier on.... My one year old nephew stopped breathing this afternoon, his mum (My sister) had to essentially give him a gentle kiss of life and he started breathing again, she called an Ambulance to be told, they are extremely busy. She did not want to have him driven down in case he stopped breathing again and he was in traffic, the Ambulance has arrived as of 7pm, some 2 hours, 40 minutes later since they were first rang.

How on Earth can this be happening in the 21st Century?

It pains me to see this happening and it hurts more when it's your own flesh and blood. :(
It's a shambles Mick and I hope your nephew gets better soon.

This has been coming for a long time, the NHS has been relying on luck. It's wake up time for the general public, if you want an NHS you're going to have to pay more tax. It's a message the Tory party won't give as they are quite happy to see it fail, and cut taxes for the rich. Even if they have private health care many don't realise they'll get transferred back to the NHS if they are seriously ill (sometimes having to endure life threatening transfers between hospitals).

Hugh 02-01-2018 20:33
Re: Crisis in the NHS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35930753)
All operations and in-patient treatments cancelled until the end of the month across England? :shocked:
No, only non-urgent ones.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42541412
Quote:
NHS England's National Emergency Pressures Panel, which met for the second time on Tuesday, said it had extended the deadline for deferral of all non-urgent inpatient elective care - such as hip or knee replacements - to 31 January, to free up capacity for the sickest of patients.

But it said cancer operations and time-critical procedures should go ahead as planned.

NHS England also gave hospitals the green light to put patients in mixed sex wards.
Mick, sorry to hear about your nephew - hope he is on the road to recovery. You feel so helpless when young children are unwell.

Damien 02-01-2018 20:53
Re: Crisis in the NHS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35930764)
No, only non-urgent ones.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42541412
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Makes more sense. I did think it would be major, breaking, headline news otherwise. Still bad of course.

Hugh 02-01-2018 21:03
Re: Crisis in the NHS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35930763)
It's a shambles Mick and I hope your nephew gets better soon.

This has been coming for a long time, the NHS has been relying on luck. It's wake up time for the general public, if you want an NHS you're going to have to pay more tax. It's a message the Tory party won't give as they are quite happy to see it fail, and cut taxes for the rich. Even if they have private health care many don't realise they'll get transferred back to the NHS if they are seriously ill (sometimes having to endure life threatening transfers between hospitals).
I have no problem paying more tax for a better service, but why is the the default position? Why not consider the German or French models, which work well, and the funding comes from multiple sources, including taxation?

Something needs to be done, but just to roll out the old shibboleths stops progress - we need to think differently, with a growing aging population.

Mr K 02-01-2018 21:15
Re: Crisis in the NHS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35930771)
I have no problem paying more tax for a better service, but why is the the default position? Why not consider the German or French models, which work well, and the funding comes from multiple sources, including taxation?
Even if it isn't tax people are going to have to pay one way or another, which they don't seem to be prepared to do (despite what they may say in opinion polls).

There are many questionable areas the Govt. has been giving away money e.g. cutting personal allowances, cutting the top tax rate. It may be politically popular, but we're now paying the price. The latest wonder plan is a £2bn taxpayer bailout of Virgin East Coast, isn't privatisation wonderful ? (for Mr Branson it is anyway, who is rapidly also expanding into healthcare...)


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