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Media Boy UK 15-04-2019 23:48
Re: John Malone/Liberty/VM General News Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35991318)
Malone is getting old and wants to sell. LG is too small on its own now, so either Malone links all his various assets up, or he sells.

I see the cable cos sold off by LG to Vodafone (which gets cleared soon by the European Commission) as the warm up act to come.

Why not?

Comcast is a cable company, by nature.
Comcast owning both Sky and Virgin Media passing all UK Media regulatory paperwork make any deal unlike to happen.

Vodafone would be the safe bet.

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Look that the carry on Global Radio has buying GMG Radio - They was told by the Competition Commission to sell seven stations across the network. Global Radio did sell a number of stations to the Irish broadcaster Communicorp.

Pierre 16-04-2019 22:48
Re: John Malone/Liberty/VM General News Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35991318)
LG is too small on its own now.
Yes, it’s tiny.

http://www.lla.com/about-us.html

OLD BOY 17-04-2019 08:33
Re: John Malone/Liberty/VM General News Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35991014)
Surprise rival to VM and BT:

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...fer-price-deal

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I suppose they'll have to weigh up the fact that it looks good to their regulator and will boost their income against the fact that it will help their competitors (including Sky) and remove a USP:

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...e-update-speed

If they do this though, maybe VM will again* tie it in with access to the missing Sky channels from their TV service, namely Sky Atlantic.

* In the past they negotiated the supply of many missing channels in return for selling their own channels to Sky.
That should be on the cards anyway, given the announcement by Sky in relation to the BT deal last year.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35991318)
Malone is getting old and wants to sell. LG is too small on its own now, so either Malone links all his various assets up, or he sells.

I see the cable cos sold off by LG to Vodafone (which gets cleared soon by the European Commission) as the warm up act to come.

Why not?

Comcast is a cable company, by nature.
I don't think it would get through the Competition Commission, Horizon.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35991397)
It's not a tiny organisation, of course, but it is small in relation to the biggest hitters and therefore needs to become part of something bigger if it wants to compete effectively in this global market.

denphone 17-04-2019 08:43
Re: John Malone/Liberty/VM General News Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35991413)
That should be on the cards anyway, given the announcement by Sky in relation to the BT deal last year.
Still waiting...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35991413)

I don't think it would get through the Competition Commission, Horizon.
You would have more chance of getting a grand national winner at 100/1 OB.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35991413)
It's not a tiny organisation, of course, but it is small in relation to the biggest hitters and therefore needs to become part of something bigger if it wants to compete effectively in this global market.
Why does it need to become a part of something bigger OB?

Media Boy UK 17-04-2019 13:03
Re: John Malone/Liberty/VM General News Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35991417)
You would have more chance of getting a grand national winner at 100/1 OB.
I DID win the bet of 100/1 on rand national winner years ago!

denphone 17-04-2019 13:22
Re: John Malone/Liberty/VM General News Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35991456)
I DID win the bet of 100/1 on rand national winner years ago!
Mon Mome.;)

Media Boy UK 17-04-2019 13:34
Re: John Malone/Liberty/VM General News Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35991462)
Mon Mome.;)
Yes. I forgot to post name

Horizon 17-04-2019 18:32
Re: John Malone/Liberty/VM General News Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35991320)
Comcast owning both Sky and Virgin Media passing all UK Media regulatory paperwork make any deal unlike to happen.

Vodafone would be the safe bet..
Yet, the same authorities allowed T-Mobile and Orange to merge.

In a world dominated by the tech giants, I don't think its entirely out of the question.

denphone 17-04-2019 18:39
Re: John Malone/Liberty/VM General News Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35991509)
Yet, the same authorities allowed T-Mobile and Orange to merge.

In a world dominated by the tech giants, I don't think its entirely out of the question.
Not a chance of it happening IMO.

OLD BOY 17-04-2019 19:10
Re: John Malone/Liberty/VM General News Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35991417)
Still waiting...

Why does it need to become a part of something bigger OB?
We are still waiting for Sky Atlantic, yes. If we get it, the thing to focus on is that the existing contract runs out in May.

VM could still refuse to pay the price Sky are holding out for of course, but now BT are about to get the channel through Now TV on its platform, Virgin will not want to fall behind. For similar reasons, I hope that they have changed tack over Prime.

Liberty Global needs to be as big as the giant global players to compete effectively, to negotiate effectively for content and to avoid being gobbled up itself.

1andrew1 17-04-2019 23:50
Re: John Malone/Liberty/VM General News Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35991509)
Yet, the same authorities allowed T-Mobile and Orange to merge.

In a world dominated by the tech giants, I don't think its entirely out of the question.
Question is - is the combined market share over 29%, In a lot of UK markets, the VM-Sky share would be. Maybe not mobile but probably TV and broadband.

denphone 18-04-2019 07:36
Re: John Malone/Liberty/VM General News Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35991517)
We are still waiting for Sky Atlantic, yes. If we get it, the thing to focus on is that the existing contract runs out in May.
How many times have you said that and yet nothing changes.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35991517)
VM could still refuse to pay the price Sky are holding out for of course, but now BT are about to get the channel through Now TV on its platform, Virgin will not want to fall behind. For similar reasons, I hope that they have changed tack over Prime.
Or Sky are asking far too much or are just simply refusing to wholesale it to Virgin

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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35991517)
VM could still refuse to pay the price Sky are holding out for of course, but now BT are about to get the channel through Now TV on its platform, Virgin will not want to fall behind. For similar reasons, I hope that they have changed tack over Prime.
Its probably the other way round as Prime has not appeared on any of the major TV platforms as of yet...

1andrew1 18-04-2019 08:07
Re: John Malone/Liberty/VM General News Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35991554)
It's probably the other way round as Prime has not appeared on any of the major TV platforms as of yet...
It's on BT.
https://home.bt.com/tech-gadgets/tv/...11364301945669

denphone 18-04-2019 08:53
Re: John Malone/Liberty/VM General News Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35991561)
l must have missed that so my apologies to OB there.

Obviously the next question is why have Virgin and Sky not got it as there could be many reasons for its absence from their platforms.

OLD BOY 22-04-2019 11:57
Re: John Malone/Liberty/VM General News Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35991554)
How many times have you said that and yet nothing changes.
May isn't here yet, Den!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35991567)
l must have missed that so my apologies to OB there.

Obviously the next question is why have Virgin and Sky not got it as there could be many reasons for its absence from their platforms.
Virgin were well on the way to adding Prime when it is rumoured that Liberty Global stepped in and poured cold water on the deal. Something to do with Amazon being a retail company, although I don't know why that was ever an issue.

LG have made clear on a number of occasions that they want to be a super-aggregator of content, but others will pip them to the post if they keep taking so long to add streaming content to their platform.

Hopefully, with Prime arriving on BT, this has forced a re-think by LG.


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