Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 

We posted all the info we have on superhubs yesterday.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 

Well the planned launch date might not happen, that was expected. But sky offering 2tb and virgin offering 1tb that's not good, current superhub won't fit In my tv shelf

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So I understand is it the sources don't know if it's a internal or external superhub

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Also to the sources and MB thanks for all the info, all we might need is pricing to work out if it is for me

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We are getting mix information on this from our sources.

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We know it's not August but Winter 2016/17 as VM have said this in an interview.

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At least your sources tell us info. I think there might be a 1tb and 2tb option

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I'm hoping virgin don't do the pre register and then you don't hear from them

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I don't think it is right to compare entertainment in the home with essential public services such as social care, public health, waste services, etc.

These services benefit everyone either directly or indirectly. Even if you don't have children, you still benefit from education services because this ensures that society can continue to develop and function properly when we get old.

Personal entertainment is not in the same category, and given the resentment that some feel because they don't watch or listen to the BBC and so they are effectively paying for others to be entertained, the licence fee is not the best way to fund the BBC.

I don't know where the objection to a subscription funded BBC comes from. If the cost is about the same as a licence fee, what is there to complain about?

Judging by the reports on the popularity of the corporation, most people would choose to subscribe anyway. So what is the big deal?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 

I don't think it will be an actual superhub in each stb as such but more a modem like the current boxes.

Or that they will connect by WiFi to each other.

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The BBC is not all about entertainment. Education and learning is a key part of its remit and that falls into the category of public good as you have explained above.

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I hope so because having 3 superhub for 2 TiVo look daft

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As I understand things, the new box will be Eos with Tivo software loaded on it and likely cloud based. So perhaps a higher capacity really than 1Tb if it just pulls in on-demand content for some "recordings" but maybe with a 1Tb hard drive for those recordings that will not be available on-demand?

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You seem to be only using one part of what the BBC is designed to do:

No wonder you don't see it's full value if you're only considering the entertainment part.

Are you serious? The BBC could never provide the breadth of content it does now on a £12.50 p/m subscription model.

Given that the licence fee was retained because of the overwhelming support for it in surveys prior to the white paper, that makes the above statement nonsense.

I think your determination to privatise the BBC, which is perfectly in line with what this government would like to do (fortunately held back by a sensible public, who put reason before political dogma), makes your views and mine so far apart, that it's pointless clogging up this thread with more discussion.

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There was indeed support for the licence fee but this isn't why it was retained for the time being. Your comment that the BBC could not provide the same service on a subscription that is equivalent to the licence fee doesn't make sense, unless of course you believe that hordes of people would not subscribe. Which rather goes against the idea that the BBC has overwhelming support, doesn't it?

For the record, I do believe that the BBC commands a lot of support from the public and that most would, in fact subscribe. But that doesn't take away from the argument that those who do not watch or listen should not be compelled to pay.

A subscription service would give people choice, ensure that time, cost and energy in checking that people not paying were not watching TV would no longer be expended and viewers who did not pay ceased to get away with it.

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A subscription service introduces a high ongoing cost which needs to be covered somehow. What about most homes that don't have pay TV services? A one-off substantial investment would be required to establish a charging mechanism for these homes.
For the record, of Sky's £20 base pack, the majority goes on marketing, encryption, admin, equipment subsidies so the licence fee would have to rise to cover some of these costs or further services would have to be cut.
So, it's not a simple case of rebranding the licence fee to a subscription fee and assuming costs stay the same. They don't.

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Someone on the L TV package has noticed that TV5 Monde is now available.

Is this a package change or temporary?

If temporary, does anyone know how long this will be for?

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No disrespect Richard, but is anyone really interested in this channel? I mean we have enough dross as it is....