Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35482433)

But this is it. Testimony from the alleged victim(s) does count as evidence. Obviously there will be questions of how reliable the accuser's account is and that would decide if the CPS feels they can press ahead with a prosecution and then if it's enough to convince a jury. The more reliable accusers you have the better.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35482438)

unless someone has been writing stuff down or has a list of times and dates

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35482442)

That's not proof.
Sept 17th 1976 at the BBC studios doing TOTP.
she was there, he was there.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35482450)

Of course it is .for example one of the alleged victims may still have a ticket stub that proves she was at TOTP and records would show that JS was there or not ,that would add credence to her claim ,even a diary entry saying what had happened would be accepted,certainly a lot better than the 'evidence'we have at the moment

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35482377)

That has to be the most poorly written pointless piece of drivel I've read in a long time. I'm not even sure it tries to make a point, other than the succinct summary of 'Jimmy Savile was not a nice man'. Well, guess what: We know that Jimmy Savile was not a nice man.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35482397)

we need some proof not the story of a ship captain who wasn't even interviewed by Hitchen, and allegedly through him off because he had shifty eyes and refused to dress for dinner.

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35482458)

It would seem that he was thrown off the ship because allegations about his conduct towards a 14yo girl made by her parents........

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35482438)

Yes it does count,and then that evidence has to be checked and verified, simply saying jimmy savile abused me is not enough no matter how fine and upstanding that citizen is .He may well have abused all these people but unfortunately unless someone has been writing stuff down or has a list of times and dates then i fear it will never go any further than a "she said" accusation

Originally Posted by Vieil Homme (Post 35482456)

A question was asked... why it had only come out now...

In bold print was: because Britain's libel laws too often help make those like Savile untouchable.

Originally Posted by Vieil Homme (Post 35482456)

A question was asked... why it had only come out now...

In bold print was: because Britain's libel laws too often help make those like Savile untouchable.

The artical may be in your opinion poorly written pointless piece of drivel but Brian Hitchen writes for a living.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35482397)

Every single piece of "evidence" that has been given at the moment sounds to me like something you would hear in a small village in N Wales where there is an eccentric man who looks and acts a 'bit weird' ,people think he dresses funny ,eats cats and only comes out at night ,children ring his door bell for a dare and run away .Jimmy Savile may not have been a nice man ,he may have been eccentric and not everyone's cup of tea but when leveling accusations of pedophilia at him we need some proof not the story of a ship captain who wasn't even interviewed by Hitchen, and allegedly through him off because he had shifty eyes and refused to dress for dinner.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35482409)

What kind of proof would you like?

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35482469)

He may write for a living, but I think there's a reason he writes for The Express. Rhetorically, the piece is utter crap. There is nothing in the article to back up the claim. There's is just the claim. The article then meanders forth with some totally unrelated musings and factoids (or not), before another claim that doesn't bear any relation to the surroundding narrative is inserted. Then you come to the end of the article and you ask yourself 'what have I learned from this article', and the answer is 'not much more than the fact the Jimmy Savile was not a nice man'. Well wow! Well done Brain Hitchen!