Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35724674)

It's not the age with Pacers, Den, it's the fact that they are basically a goods wagon chassis with single decker bus coachworks on top. They're noisy and uncomfortable, and that's before they start moving. :D

When they get going, the body rocks backwards and forwards on its bogies like a merry go round horse, or an oil well nodding donkey, hence the nickname.

I travel between Wigan and Liverpool sometimes and there are a few of these on the route. I always have all my fingers crossed that I'm not going to get stuck on one. They really are horrible.

Originally Posted by 007stuart (Post 35726265)

Bluebell Railway reports passenger growth

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-28988650

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35726280)

Having gone there last year with my family l cannot say l am surprised as its a lovely Steam Railway and it was even more of a surprise when my our sister came through the front door of The East Grinstead station.:)