Re: Superhub is nowhere near as bad as people say!
 

They only use it as for 200/400 Meg only in future!

Re: Superhub is nowhere near as bad as people say!
 

Wasn't the VMNG300 supposed to be updatable with firmware to handle 8 channels? I guess this could just have come from VM's blustering staff while they were using them for the trials on higher speeds. We've certainly heard make believe things from them before :p

Re: Superhub is nowhere near as bad as people say!
 

AFAIK a firmware upgrade is all that is needed, don't hope for one though. VM aren't interested in it any more.

Re: Superhub is nowhere near as bad as people say!
 

yeah the excuse that the vmng300 cannot handle 8 channels is just petty.

If its possible to do via firmware then that is a trivial thing to make it compatible.
If its not possible it also shouldnt be that diffilcult to source a new modem from somewhere that is compatible. I dont think the superhub is the only modem in the market that has 8 channel spec.

Re: Superhub is nowhere near as bad as people say!
 

Quick google search shows that indeed there are other modems (and modem/routers) that can do the job with 8/4.

http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-SURFb.../dp/B0040IUI46 I find it amusing though that people in the reviews are recommending you disable "IP Flood detection"

Re: Superhub is nowhere near as bad as people say!
 

i dont really care about 8 channels, but i would be extremely upset if the VM firmware guys got set loose on the VMNG300, it would be ruined forever!!

Re: Superhub is nowhere near as bad as people say!
 

The Superhub is based on a chipset that can be used for home gateways or for modems.

They are following in the footsteps of people like Comhem in offering a combined unit.

It's potentially a good idea, just in the case of the Superhub incredibly badly executed.

Re: Superhub is nowhere near as bad as people say!
 

The are many modems capable and also many have be trialled but Virginmedia decided that a hub in the two forms that we presently have are the way forward and are here to stay with no reprise of the VMNG300.

Re: Superhub is nowhere near as bad as people say!
 

VM don't write the firmware they submit feature requests and bugs to the hardware manufacturer.

The failings with the Superhub are Netgear's.

Who'd have thought, Netgear sucking.

Re: Superhub is nowhere near as bad as people say!
 

netgear cant do their job, they are in the same boat as sony at the moment

Re: Superhub is nowhere near as bad as people say!
 

agreed, the 8 channel thing been dished out on here from VM staff is just a smokescreen really. It was a good idea to provide such a unit but to me the 2 main issues were.

1 - removing choice, forcing the unit on new customers and upgrades and without a bridge mode.
2 - releasing too early with testers telling VM its not ready and not functional enough.

I would have kept the vmng300 available as an option on new orders and upgrades, initially the superhub optional but free to get volunteers, give it a run with low takeup make sure it works and stable, then eventually make it the default option but however always have the vmng300 optional for those who want it. Everyone happy not rocket science. Instead VM went in full throttle with it.

Re: Superhub is nowhere near as bad as people say!
 

agreed.

completley off topic, do VM bond upstream channels, even the VMNG300 has capacity for four upstream channels, as does the superhub, but even the 100mb has 1 upstream?

Re: Superhub is nowhere near as bad as people say!
 

all netgear routers I have used are bad, even the famous dg834GT which has a fanbase I found a poor router.

Re: Superhub is nowhere near as bad as people say!
 

There is nothing wrong with a hub per se providing it does the job it's supposed to.

However , if Igni's previous post has veracity (which I don't doubt) then the Superhub you are on about is not here to stay as the form you currently have is provided by Netgear.

I know you can't comment on it being changed but it might just stop you continually harping on as to how there's nothing wrong with yours so it must be alright.:D

---------- Post added at 22:27 ---------- Previous post was at 22:23 ----------

As upload speed increases and to potentially relieve loading channel bonding will be introduced on upstream at some point.

Re: Superhub is nowhere near as bad as people say!
 

It'll still be a Superhub, just with a different manufacturer.

I can easily believe that some people have no issues with the God forsaken thing, I just happen to both be having a ton of problems and be quite happy to vocalise them.

Later this year, support for it has only relatively recently been good to go from Motorola and Cisco. 3 kinds of CMTS certification on DOCSIS 3, bronze, silver, gold, both BSR and 10k are as far as I know bronze which means no upstream bonding.

This may have changed recently as both had this feature in production so it makes sense for them to get it certified for the CableLabs kudos.