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punky 31-12-2006 00:51
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But how can you question something you've never read/heard?

Paul 31-12-2006 00:58
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Originally Posted by kronas (Post 34188267)
stop putting words in to my posts :rolleyes:
Really, and what words would that be then .... :erm:

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Originally Posted by kronas (Post 34188267)
i never said he was not guilty
You never said he was guilty either. Then again, I never you had (either way .....)

kronas 31-12-2006 01:25
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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 34188329)
You never said he was guilty either. Then again, I never you had (either way .....)
thats true.


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Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34188324)
But how can you question something you've never read/heard?
i have read what he has supposed to have done, but i have not sat in a court room to hear the evidence, i dont trust the meddling of the judicial system in iraq by an american backed legacy, once shy twice bitten ?

etccarmageddon 31-12-2006 02:30
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the thread is still open - does this mean he's still dead? good.

arcamalpha2004 31-12-2006 08:29
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34188227)
Do you actually believe that Bush/Blair issued direct orders (or even indirect orders) that Coalition troops should kill "thousand of Iraqis", against the facts that Saddam directly ordered the killings?

So what happened? how did all these innocent civilians end up being tossed onto the back of a pick up truck? or their remains shovelled into a bin liner?
Did the troops decide " lets do it " ?
I dont think so!
Bush/blair have blood on their hands, for all I agree with the hanging of sadam, for all the good it is supposed to do :erm: I feel a lot of hypocrisy going on.

Virgin Mary 31-12-2006 09:54
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How is it possible that somebody snicked in a mobile and recorded Saddam's hanging? (the video was broadcast by algazeera, recorded by fox and by now everywhere on the web)

arcamalpha2004 31-12-2006 10:01
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Originally Posted by Lobster Ring (Post 34188387)
How is it possible that somebody snicked in a mobile and recorded Saddam's hanging? (the video was broadcast algazeera, recorded by fox and by now everywhere on the web)
How do people sneek in cameras into a cinema?
Where there is demand for this kind of footage......... :erm:

Virgin Mary 31-12-2006 10:42
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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 34188389)
How do people sneek in cameras into a cinema?
Where there is demand for this kind of footage......... :erm:
One would expect high security for such an event or it was deliberate...

zing_deleted 31-12-2006 10:56
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He was prob some official in charge. Least seeing him drop proves it actually happened and isnt propoganda.Just watched him drop and its not very graphic thankfully ;) (morbid curiosity got the better of me)

Ramrod 31-12-2006 11:26
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Originally Posted by kronas (Post 34188267)
stop putting words in to my posts :rolleyes: i never said he was not guilty merely questioning evidential claims...
If you say that he is guilty then what is there to question? :shrug:

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Originally Posted by kronas (Post 34188337)

i have read what he has supposed to have done, but i have not sat in a court room to hear the evidence, i dont trust the meddling of the judicial system in iraq by an american backed legacy, once shy twice bitten ?
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It was many years ago, when Saddam Hussein was at the height of his power, that a nervous European journalist plucked up the courage to ask the Iraqi leader whether he had ordered political dissidents to be tortured and even killed. Saddam took no offence at the question and eased back in his chair. "Of course," he replied, genuinely puzzled by the naivety of the interviewer. "What do you expect if they oppose the regime?"

Hugh 31-12-2006 16:56
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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 34188372)
So what happened? how did all these innocent civilians end up being tossed onto the back of a pick up truck? or their remains shovelled into a bin liner?
Did the troops decide " lets do it " ?
I dont think so!
Bush/blair have blood on their hands, for all I agree with the hanging of sadam, for all the good it is supposed to do :erm: I feel a lot of hypocrisy going on.
I will rephrase my question - do you believe that Bush/Blair, or any of the Coalition commanders, have directly ordered the killing of innocent civilians?

Or is it more likely that there have been civilians killed in cross-fire, by accident, by other Iraqis, and sometimes (imho, rarely) on purpose by troops who have been under unrelenting pressure and "lost it"? None of which lessens the death and suffering of the Iraqi civilians who have been killed or injured, but I find it hard to countenance that British troops would willingly breach the Geneva Convention.

TheDaddy 31-12-2006 17:07
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34188647)
I find it hard to countenance that British troops would willingly breach the Geneva Convention.
British soldiers I'd agree with you, however I don't have the same faith in some of our allies

budwieser 01-01-2007 01:07
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34188654)
British soldiers I'd agree with you, however I don't have the same faith in some of our allies
War is War, We have a duty to protect others not so fortunate as ourselves. Did we start Murdering innocents? I don`t think so.
We were not the one`s with the suicide bombers killing innocent women. men and children. Would you not protect your family or stand up for a friend being bullied at school? This is no different apart from the firepower being used to counteract the firepower being used.:erm:

Xaccers 01-01-2007 08:28
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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 34188847)
War is War, We have a duty to protect others not so fortunate as ourselves. Did we start Murdering innocents? I don`t think so.
We were not the one`s with the suicide bombers killing innocent women. men and children. Would you not protect your family or stand up for a friend being bullied at school? This is no different apart from the firepower being used to counteract the firepower being used.:erm:
*waits for reply that ignores most of what you've posted and says something like "Oh so we protect others by blowing them up do we?" from someone who probably marched to keep saddam in power*

arcamalpha2004 01-01-2007 09:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34188647)
I will rephrase my question - do you believe that Bush/Blair, or any of the Coalition commanders, have directly ordered the killing of innocent civilians?

Or is it more likely that there have been civilians killed in cross-fire, by accident, by other Iraqis, and sometimes (imho, rarely) on purpose by troops who have been under unrelenting pressure and "lost it"? None of which lessens the death and suffering of the Iraqi civilians who have been killed or injured, but I find it hard to countenance that British troops would willingly breach the Geneva Convention.

No need to " rephrase " your question THANKYOU!

The commanders HAVE ordered bombings of areas populated by innocent civilians, correct?

The fact is that bush and blair have blood on their hands.

The government backed the bombings in Baghdad, that killed and injured countless innocent humans, this is the same government that opposes executions on humanitarian grounds, ( but maybe its ok if youre in miami )

You cannot have both things, in other words you cannot bomb and kill innocent people yet oppose executions on humanitarian grounds, please look up the word hypocrisy.

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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 34188847)
War is War, We have a duty to protect others not so fortunate as ourselves. Did we start Murdering innocents? I don`t think so.
We were not the one`s with the suicide bombers killing innocent women. men and children. Would you not protect your family or stand up for a friend being bullied at school? This is no different apart from the firepower being used to counteract the firepower being used.:erm:

Please read above.....


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