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TheDaddy 15-08-2026 23:04
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Notice how reform announce their welfare statement after the vote, all those turkeys voting for Christmas as 21% of Clacton is in receipt of pip. Funny how their tough decisions only ever effect the little people and not say the multi millionaire crypto dealers for instance

papa smurf 16-08-2026 06:53
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Personal Independence Payment (PIP) is not means-tested. Your personal savings, capital, income, and employment status do not affect whether you can get it or how much you are paid

so it does effect crypto millionaires, glad to see it is a fair policy.

1andrew1 16-08-2026 21:57
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36221117)
Personal Independence Payment (PIP) is not means-tested. Your personal savings, capital, income, and employment status do not affect whether you can get it or how much you are paid

so it does effect crypto millionaires, glad to see it is a fair policy.
Fortunately, crypto millionaires don't tend to live in the UK. Making money from transferring money from sanctioned nations and criminals is not the kind of activity this country is particularly keen on.

Anonymouse 17-08-2026 00:38
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
I receive PIP. So for the first time in years my voting-against policy has a specific target. Until now I've voted against by not voting because I didn't trust any of them. But now, I am going to vote against Farage, i.e. anyone but him. He's blaming mass immigration for everything - including, now, the hosepipe ban! Hello, heatwave, anybody?!

Plus wanting to reinstate fossil fuels? Shortsighted as Trump, who hopefully will be shot any day now (hi, Echelon, you bug!).

A moron who entertains that prat with a bin on his head is no-one I want to vote for. Politics is/are meant to be serious, you idiot! (Can't say what I want to say, as this is a family forum!)

1andrew1 17-08-2026 07:38
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36221152)
I receive PIP. So for the first time in years my voting-against policy has a specific target. Until now I've voted against by not voting because I didn't trust any of them. But now, I am going to vote against Farage, i.e. anyone but him.
So selfish! Why can't you take a small hit so that Reform's hard-working millionaire chums can live in the style they're entitled to? ;)

TheDaddy 17-08-2026 08:31
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36221152)
I receive PIP. So for the first time in years my voting-against policy has a specific target. Until now I've voted against by not voting because I didn't trust any of them. But now, I am going to vote against Farage, i.e. anyone but him. He's blaming mass immigration for everything - including, now, the hosepipe ban! Hello, heatwave, anybody?!

Plus wanting to reinstate fossil fuels? Shortsighted as Trump, who hopefully will be shot any day now (hi, Echelon, you bug!).

A moron who entertains that prat with a bin on his head is no-one I want to vote for. Politics is/are meant to be serious, you idiot! (Can't say what I want to say, as this is a family forum!)
I could never really countenance non voting, if I really couldn't find anyone to vote for or wasn't obligated to vote for someone, I just used to vote in the interests of the least well off person I knew be that in terms of wealth or health

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36221148)
Fortunately, crypto millionaires don't tend to live in the UK. Making money from transferring money from sanctioned nations and criminals is not the kind of activity this country is particularly keen on.
Who was it who said, judge someone by the company they keep...

papa smurf 17-08-2026 08:56
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36221159)
I could never really countenance non voting, if I really couldn't find anyone to vote for or wasn't obligated to vote for someone, I just used to vote in the interests of the least well off person I knew be that in terms of wealth or health

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Who was it who said, judge someone by the company they keep...
someone with no friends or family

Carth 17-08-2026 10:39
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36221163)
someone with no friends or family
it will probably have been an expert in something or other, no doubt, maybe even the same one that went on about book covers

Hugh 17-08-2026 18:11
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36221169)
it will probably have been an expert in something or other, no doubt, maybe even the same one that went on about book covers
Aesop went on about book covers?

Carth 17-08-2026 18:30
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36221187)
Aesop went on about book covers?
No idea Hugh, I wasn't there and those who were didn't talk about it much I guess.

Even back then it was all secret squirrel stuff ;)

Hugh 25-08-2026 14:49
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/...rrer=deep-link

Quote:
The organisers of "Farage Fest" - a victory party and rally for the Reform UK leader after the Clacton by-election - are being investigated for failing to get permission to hold it.

Tendring District Council said it had "refused" to grant a Late Temporary Event Notice (LTEN) because the application had not been made in time.

Hundreds went to the overnight party attended by Nigel Farage at Great Oakley airfield, which included live music, alcohol, and a Ferris wheel.

In a statement, Reform said it had not needed a LTEN for the private event and it was "confident that no rules were broken".

Farage was re-elected MP for Clacton in the by-election on Thursday 13 August with an increased majority of 12,784.

Farage did not attend the election count where he was declared the winner.

Instead, he spent the night at the invite-only mini-festival dubbed "Farage Fest".

"Welcome to Clactonbury," Farage told cheering supporters in the early hours of Friday. Speaking on stage at the event, he added: "I'm going to be here all night."

Organisers can apply for the LTEN five working days before an event takes place.

The "Farage Fest" application was refused because it was made after this deadline.

People from the Clacton constituency who supported Farage in the by-election by displaying posters and placards received letters inviting them to the event.

They had to pay an entry fee, but could camp and park onsite for free.

Lisa Hastings, the council's corporate director for law and governance, said: "No authorisation was granted under a LTEN for the event."

Reform's statement said: "Reform UK are confident that no rules were broken and the event was conducted in accordance with the law."

The party said it had been an invite-only private event and no activity had taken place which required authorisation under the Licensing Act 2003.

It added that a LTEN had been submitted on a precautionary basis, but no reliance had been placed on it, as the party said it had not been necessary.

If Tendring District Council, the licensing authority, decides to prosecute following the investigation the organisers could face a fine or even a custodial sentence.

OLD BOY 25-08-2026 15:16
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36221525)
Yet more persecution. Why don’t people check their facts before complaining? They didn’t need permission. Nothing to see here….

Hugh 25-08-2026 16:02
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36221527)
Yet more persecution. Why don’t people check their facts before complaining? They didn’t need permission. Nothing to see here….
Erm, nobody complained…

Reform applied for a LTEN, it was refused because it was too late, Reform went ahead anyway, the Council are investigating a breach of the Licensing Law.

If, as Reform state, they are confident that no rules were broken and the event was conducted in accordance with the law, there won’t be an issue…

OLD BOY 27-08-2026 15:31
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36221528)
Erm, nobody complained…

Reform applied for a LTEN, it was refused because it was too late, Reform went ahead anyway, the Council are investigating a breach of the Licensing Law.

If, as Reform state, they are confident that no rules were broken and the event was conducted in accordance with the law, there won’t be an issue…
As it happens, they didn’t need permission. This is a non-story. As usual.

Hugh 27-08-2026 15:58
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36221620)
As it happens, they didn’t need permission. This is a non-story. As usual.

Reform say they didn't need permission - why did they apply for it?


The Council issued a LTEN counter notice before the event took place - a LTEN counter notice means that the event can't take place; why would the Council issue this if Farage Fest didn't need an LTEN?


btw, I see you've moved the goalposts from "people complained" to "they didn't need something that they applied for"...


From various Council website - info re TEN and LTEN requirements


Quote:
When You Need a TEN
  • You sell alcohol to guests.
  • You charge an entry fee or ticket price that includes "free" alcoholic drinks.
  • You host the party in a public or unlicensed venue (like a village hall) that does not already cover your activities.
  • You provide regulated entertainment like live or recorded music and dancing.
  • You serve hot food or hot drinks between 11:00 PM and 5:00 AM.
Christopher Hope posted on Social Media


Quote:
there were live bands, bars, fire pits and marquees
The event organiser posted


Quote:
“From the initial planning through to delivery in just one week, we welcomed 600 people and operated from 11pm doors open through to an 11am site close. This was completely new territory for every team involved.”

Damien 03-09-2026 18:56
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
This is quite bad and this time they're on camera: https://channel4news.substack.com/p/...med-undercover

Quote:
Undercover footage verified by Channel 4 News reveals a secret plot by senior Reform UK figures to break the law on party donations. A leading legal expert is now calling for a criminal investigation.
On video, appearing to conspire to break the law on foreign donations.

It seems that:
  • They openly discussed a US firm paying for polling. This donation was never declared
  • Two senior Reform figures are implicated in the recording
  • They discuss keeping it secret and that "they'll get away with it".
  • They also discussed a £500,000 donation with the undercover team, making it clear it would be the US-based father giving money via his UK-based son. This is textbook illegal.
  • Farage was at one meeting; he seems savvy enough to have not directly implicated himself when the donation was discussed.
  • The polling that was paid for was conducted by JL Partners Polling and given to the Telegraph without disclosing it was ultimately backed by Reform. A breach of the British Polling Council's rules. The Telegraph didn't know Reform (via a US company) paid for it.

papa smurf 03-09-2026 19:25
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
int AI brilliant

Damien 03-09-2026 20:14
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
The Telegraph has suspended its relationship with the polling company

Hugh 03-09-2026 20:22
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36221956)
int AI brilliant
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/04/12.gif

papa smurf 03-09-2026 21:01
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36221958)
is that your life story ;)

1andrew1 04-09-2026 02:56
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Papa Smurf has a point! That clip of Farage having oysters and wine in Clacton with the fake overseas donor must be AI. I mean, Farage in his actual constituency! :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36221955)
  • The polling that was paid for was conducted by JL Partners Polling and given to the Telegraph without disclosing it was ultimately backed by Reform. A breach of the British Polling Council's rules. The Telegraph didn't know Reform (via a US company) paid for it.
I guess in reality, Channel Four paid for the polls.

Damien 04-09-2026 07:21
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
It was a separate investigation company based in the US, yeah.

The men directly implicated have resigned.

papa smurf 04-09-2026 08:01
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
reform have launched an investigation into funding

Hugh 04-09-2026 08:04
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36221965)
It was a separate investigation company based in the US, yeah.

The men directly implicated have resigned.
"Stood down"…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86xj5z7x61o

Quote:
Reform UK says two senior officials have stepped down as the party launched an investigation into claims about funding aired during a Channel 4 News report.

Nigel Farage's senior aide Dan Jukes and Reform's head of policy James Orr have both stood down pending the outcome of the internal probe, the party said.

A Reform UK spokesman said: "The party believes it is important that the investigation is allowed to proceed independently and without prejudice.

"No further comment will be made while the investigation is ongoing."
Not sure how an "internal probe" can be "independent"…

The Reform Chairman and the Reform Deputy Leader have different views on the two individuals future…

Quote:
On Friday morning, Reform UK chairman Lee Anderson told Sky News there was "no chance" of Jukes and Orr returning to the party.

This appeared to be contradicted by Reform's deputy leader Richard Tice, who told BBC Radio 4's Today programme minutes later that "it's not actually, in the nicest possible way, for any individual to make that determination" as the investigation continues.

papa smurf 04-09-2026 08:18
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36221968)
"Stood down"…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86xj5z7x61o



Not sure how an "internal probe" can be "independent"…

The Reform Chairman and the Reform Deputy Leader have different views on the two individuals future…
would you prefer yet another kangaroo court did it

Hugh 04-09-2026 09:47
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Ah, the old Farage Reformisaurus* definitions…

Independent inquiry - we’ll investigate ourselves
Kangaroo Court - anyone else who investigates our action

Meanwhile, the Reform line seems to be there is nothing to investigate but you are all leftie establishment tree-huggers for asking about the investigation we are holding into the two guys who did nothing but who stepped down anyway even though they have nothing to hide because the nothing they did was something but that something was ok…

A lot of Reverse Double Ferret going on there…

*Reform’s version of Roger’s Profanisaurus

Carth 04-09-2026 11:32
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
I'm not defending or accusing (that's the job of the media lol), but I often wonder how these people gain entry into what I assume are something like private behind closed doors meetings.

"Hi guys, this is my new friend Bob, He's definitely not involved with those TV documentary things exposing corruption, and yes I know he looks like that bloke from channel 4 but he says he's not, he's a really nice chap, in fact when I first met him in the pub an hour ago he bought me a pint . . welcome Bob"

Hugh 04-09-2026 11:44
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36221976)
I'm not defending or accusing (that's the job of the media lol), but I often wonder how these people gain entry into what I assume are something like private behind closed doors meetings.

"Hi guys, this is my new friend Bob, He's definitely not involved with those TV documentary things exposing corruption, and yes I know he looks like that bloke from channel 4 but he says he's not, he's a really nice chap, in fact when I first met him in the pub an hour ago he bought me a pint . . welcome Bob"
They approached Orr pretending to be rich Right Wing Americans, and were invited by Jukes and Orr to meet, and strangely enough, they weren’t carrying large video cameras, they were using button cameras and microphones…

Anyhoo, here’s the latest from the Reform Press Office

Quote:
"There wasn’t any window, but if there was a window it wasn’t broken, but it if was broken it was definitely not hit by Nigel Farage's ball, but if it was his ball he almost certainly did not kick it, and if he did kick it, he kicked it within the rules and he has KC’s confirmation of that, and anyway, it was an accident and he knew nothing about it, and it was a woke leftie immigrant window so probably deserved what didn’t happen…

papa smurf 04-09-2026 11:54
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
"There wasn’t any window, but if there was a window it wasn’t broken, but it if was broken it was definitely not hit by Nigel Farage's ball, but if it was his ball he almost certainly did not kick it, and if he did kick it, he kicked it within the rules and he has KC’s confirmation of that, and anyway, it was an accident and he knew nothing about it, and it was a woke leftie immigrant window so probably deserved what didn’t happen…



not bad for a 7 year old,good job an adult wasn't involved in penning that

Carth 04-09-2026 12:12
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36221979)
They approached Orr pretending to be rich Right Wing Americans, and were invited by Jukes and Orr to meet, and strangely enough, they weren’t carrying large video cameras, they were using button cameras and microphones…

Anyhoo, here’s the latest from the Reform Press Office
Well there you go, the mindset of Politicians (of any party), probably couldn't be bothered doing any background checks . .

papa smurf 04-09-2026 12:30
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36221982)
Well there you go, the mindset of Politicians (of any party), probably couldn't be bothered doing any background checks . .
vulnerable innocent people taken in by leftie grifters

Carth 04-09-2026 12:44
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36221985)
vulnerable innocent people taken in by leftie grifters
. . alternatively, they knew they were being set up so ran with it, spouting crap about cheating funding and are now laughing while the mess unfolds

Hugh 04-09-2026 12:49
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36221985)
vulnerable innocent people taken in by leftie grifters
Farage isn’t a leftie… :confused:

Anyhoo

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1788526141

Hugh 04-09-2026 12:50
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36221988)
. . alternatively, they knew they were being set up so ran with it, spouting crap about cheating funding and are now laughing while the mess unfolds
That’s an interesting view on it…

Carth 04-09-2026 13:35
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36221990)
That’s an interesting view on it…
Just throwing something different out there, Politics is in such a mess that any stupid idea seems to be well worth the little effort in trying it. If it works that's fine, if it fails . . well there's always tomorrow ;)

Hugh 04-09-2026 13:59
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36221992)
Just throwing something different out there, Politics is in such a mess that any stupid idea seems to be well worth the little effort in trying it. If it works that's fine, if it fails . . well there's always tomorrow ;)
Once again, that's an interesting viewpoint...

papa smurf 04-09-2026 14:29
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36221994)
Once again, that's an interesting viewpoint...
and we know how you dislike them

Paul 04-09-2026 15:13
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Is there a point to all this bickering ?

Damien 04-09-2026 15:16
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36221976)
I'm not defending or accusing (that's the job of the media lol), but I often wonder how these people gain entry into what I assume are something like private behind closed doors meetings.

"Hi guys, this is my new friend Bob, He's definitely not involved with those TV documentary things exposing corruption, and yes I know he looks like that bloke from channel 4 but he says he's not, he's a really nice chap, in fact when I first met him in the pub an hour ago he bought me a pint . . welcome Bob"
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/09/1.gif

The reality is that the investigation team would have worked on appearing credible first and gaining trust before meeting them, I imagine.

I also think the two Reform senior aides were pretty careless and, of course, completely willing to do this without thinking.

Farage was very careful about what he would openly say in the meeting. The reporters asked about the donation that was being planned (which would be illegal) and he didn't go 'we'll get away with it' and just moved on.

1andrew1 04-09-2026 20:12
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
A Reform UK spokesman said: "The party believes it is important that the investigation is allowed to proceed independently and without prejudice.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36221968)
Not sure how an "internal probe" can be "independent"…
The devil's in the detail.

Reform are not claiming their investigation is independent, just that they want it to proceed independently. To proceed independently from the Police enquiry? To proceedi independently from the evidence? Or to proceed independently from something else? ;)

OLD BOY 05-09-2026 11:58
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36221998)
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/09/1.gif

The reality is that the investigation team would have worked on appearing credible first and gaining trust before meeting them, I imagine.

I also think the two Reform senior aides were pretty careless and, of course, completely willing to do this without thinking.

Farage was very careful about what he would openly say in the meeting. The reporters asked about the donation that was being planned (which would be illegal) and he didn't go 'we'll get away with it' and just moved on.
He said he’d have to pass any proposals through his legal team. That’s what he does, and it’s why he has been able to have all these investigations find that he’s done nothing wrong.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36222000)
The devil's in the detail.

Reform are not claiming their investigation is independent, just that they want it to proceed independently. To proceed independently from the Police enquiry? To proceedi independently from the evidence? Or to proceed independently from something else? ;)
They want to be seen to be dealing with this robustly to avoid allegations of a cover-up - the kind of thing that other parties get accused of on a regular basis.

Funny how people prefer to prattle on about the smears rather than the policies. You wouldn’t believe there’s a Reform UK Conference going on, would you?

Paul 05-09-2026 12:17
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36222012)
Funny how people prefer to prattle on about the smears rather than the policies.
So ....
Quote:
Reform UK is promising to increase the tax-free personal allowance to £15,000, if it wins the next general election.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgk5g51xk57o

papa smurf 05-09-2026 12:27
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
it needs to be higher

RichardCoulter 05-09-2026 14:13
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Works out to be worth £9.34 a week, paid for off the backs of disabled people by severely cutting their entitlement to Personal Independence Payments and as a result the withdrawal of Carers Allowance for their carers.

Carth 05-09-2026 16:21
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
I've come to the conclusion that people paying tax isn't the right way to run the UK.

NHS is shit, Social services are shit, Local councils are bankrupt . . we can still have all that and pay bugger all tax

:D

Hugh 05-09-2026 16:57
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36222012)
He said he’d have to pass any proposals through his legal team. That’s what he does, and it’s why he has been able to have all these investigations find that he’s done nothing wrong.

---------- Post added at 12:58 ---------- Previous post was at 12:55 ----------



They want to be seen to be dealing with this robustly to avoid allegations of a cover-up - the kind of thing that other parties get accused of on a regular basis.

Funny how people prefer to prattle on about the smears rather than the policies. You wouldn’t believe there’s a Reform UK Conference going on, would you?
It wasn’t Farage who said that (the comment about lawyers), it was the potential donor…

papa smurf 05-09-2026 17:36
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36222025)
It wasn’t Farage who said that (the comment about lawyers), it was the potential donor…
is that the potential donor who didn't have anything to donate, therefore wasn't actually a donor but was going to check if it was ok not to donate the money he didn't have

Carth 05-09-2026 18:19
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36222026)
is that the potential donor who didn't have anything to donate, therefore wasn't actually a donor but was going to check if it was ok not to donate the money he didn't have
reads it once
reads it again
thinks he understands it
shrugs and has another brandy

:D

1andrew1 05-09-2026 23:02
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Is this the party that advocates free speech and the protection of women and girls?

I think if you protest at a party's conference, you can expect forceful eviction. But to have your hair pulled and hit with a crutch by supporters just looks thuggish.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyznj31l3nor

Paul 05-09-2026 23:42
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Ummm.

Quote:
Sorry, we couldn’t find that page
Check the page address or search for it below.

Hugh 06-09-2026 06:59
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36222032)
Ummm.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/...rrer=deep-link

Also from that link

Quote:
As Farage walked onto the stage, he told delegates that a delay was because of a "security alert".

Some media outlets reported that a Reform UK source had informed them that counter terrorism police would not let him on.

West Midlands Police disputed this claim and said the "decision to delay the commencement of the leader of Reform UK's keynote speech was made by Reform UK".

The force added: "We can confirm that Counter Terrorism Policing have had no involvement in the delivery of the Reform UK Party Conference 2026."

papa smurf 06-09-2026 07:04
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
very worrying if fake counter terrorism police have been involved

1andrew1 06-09-2026 08:39
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
They do seem to have a habit of incorrectly claiming the police are preventing them from doing things - not attending the declaration at Clacton and now not starting on time in Birmingham. Does not look like the approach of a party that is confident in governing the country.

papa smurf 06-09-2026 08:50
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36222041)
They do seem to have a habit of incorrectly claiming the police are preventing them from doing things - not attending the declaration at Clacton and now not starting on time in Birmingham. Does not look like the approach of a party that is confident in governing the country.
or the police have a habit of denial,it's another case of he said /she said

Carth 06-09-2026 09:58
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Media reporting in general, not just politics, has descended into an uncontrolled pantomime . . with their favourite heroes and baddies . .

oh no it hasn't

oh yes it has

oh no it hasn't

don't look behind you

papa smurf 06-09-2026 10:24
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36222047)
Media reporting in general, not just politics, has descended into an uncontrolled pantomime . . with their favourite heroes and baddies . .

oh no it hasn't

oh yes it has

oh no it hasn't

don't look behind you
it's like tv wrestling,entertaining but totally fake ;)

1andrew1 06-09-2026 12:21
Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36222042)
or the police have a habit of denial,it's another case of he said /she said
If the police lied, Reform UK would have filed a complaint. They didn't. Unlikely to happen the other way round.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36222012)
He said he’d have to pass any proposals through his legal team. That’s what he does, and it’s why he has been able to have all these investigations find that he’s done nothing
As Hugh stated, Farage did not say that point about his legal team on the video. Furthermore, the investigations are still underway so he's not been able to say he's been cleared.

Hugh 06-09-2026 18:00
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Nigel Farage has suggested that he was misled by one of his closest political aides, as he seeks to distance himself from the scandal over illegal foreign donations that is engulfing his party.

The Reform UK leader was secretly recorded by an undercover journalist being told how they planned to circumvent electoral laws to fund the party.

The meeting had been arranged by Dan Jukes, one of Farage’s most trusted aides, who was trying to secure what would have been an illegal £500,000 donation for the party from an American businessman.

But Farage insisted on Sunday that he was told in advance of the meeting that the businessman was a permissible donor because his family office was based in London — that would have made the donation legitimate. Separate undercover footage revealed that Jukes knew that was not the case.

“I was told before the meeting that it was a global business, but there was the family office, was based in London,” he told the BBC’s Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg. “A global family business. Look, my job wasn’t to do compliance. My job wasn’t to do a background check. My job was to turn up at a lunch, have a glass of wine and shake somebody’s hand.”
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/09/2.gif

Poor Kenny, sorry, Dan Jukes…

https://archive.ph/5SJub

papa smurf 06-09-2026 18:07
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well someones not going to get any sleep tonight :)

Hugh 06-09-2026 19:22
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36222066)
well someones not going to get any sleep tonight :)
What you do in the privacy of your own home with your vast collection of Farage "candid" snaps is entirely your own business…

jem 06-09-2026 20:15
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36222073)
What you do in the privacy of your own home with your vast collection of Farage "candid" snaps is entirely your own business…
:p:

papa smurf 07-09-2026 06:55
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36222073)
What you do in the privacy of your own home with your vast collection of Farage "candid" snaps is entirely your own business…
don't forget to return the one's you borrowed ;););););)

Hugh 07-09-2026 07:18
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don't forget to return the one's you borrowed ;););););)
Oops, sorry - I didn’t realise you wanted them back…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1788765467

I can try to clean the cat litter off the others if you still want them back?

papa smurf 12-09-2026 06:53
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Reform UK has received a £36m donation from British cryptocurrency billionaire Ben Delo - making it the largest single donation to a UK political party on record.


Mr Delo said he was making the donation to create "a level playing field" with other parties and ensure that Reform is given a "fair fight" at the polls in the next general election.

The donation makes him Reform's largest donor ahead of fellow crypto entrepreneur Christopher Harborne, who donated £9m to the party in August.

https://news.sky.com/story/reform-uk...-delo-13584676

Carth 12-09-2026 10:32
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Channel 4 will already be hard at work with the 'hard hitting undercover investigation' which reveals Ben Delo has links to organised crime, his father was a jewel thief, and a distant cousin once called Princess Diana a tart

Hugh 12-09-2026 10:49
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C4 didn't make the previous video on the latest Farage/Reform UK funding shenanigans - it was made and produced by Verbatim Investigations, then verified and broadcast by C4.

I wonder what it is about Reform UK/Farage that attracts overseas-based cryptocurrency money launderers...

Carth 12-09-2026 11:02
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. . Verbatim Investigations . . weren't they in Harry Potter, or was it a TV series doing those paranormal ghost chaser things? ;)

papa smurf 12-09-2026 12:15
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i wonder what it is about crypto billionaires that upsets some people so much


Reform given £72m by two crypto billionaires in record-breaking haul



British cryptocurrency billionaire Ben Delo said he was making his £36m donation to create "a level playing field" with other parties - and ensure that Reform is given a "fair fight" at the polls in the next general election.

Fellow crypto entrepreneur Christopher Harborne has now decided to match the donation, netting Reform UK £72m in the space of two days.

https://news.sky.com/story/reform-gi...-haul-13584780

1andrew1 12-09-2026 18:24
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Quite funny that Harborne didn't want to look less successful than Delo so he matched Delo's £36m.

papa smurf 12-09-2026 19:45
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i wonder if there are any more generous billionaires out there waiting to contribute

Hugh 12-09-2026 19:54
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Quite funny that Harborne didn't want to look less successful than Delo so he matched Delo's £36m.
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1789242850

Dingbat 12-09-2026 20:44
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So they’ve got £72m? Perhaps they should put it towards bailing out Reform-led Durham Council. They’re only £83m in debt after their making such a mess of council finances.

papa smurf 12-09-2026 20:56
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and the meltdown begins


Panic at Labour HQ as party begs members for cash after Reform UK bags £72m in 24 hours

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...m-72m-24-hours

Paul 12-09-2026 21:33
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Nice money if you can get it, maybe I need to start a political party. :)

Damien 12-09-2026 21:57
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It's not going to be good for any of us if our politics moves closer to the US, where all the parties are funded by the wealthiest people in society.

The person who has hundreds of millions of pounds is going to have different interests and different goals than those who do not have millions of pounds.

Carth 13-09-2026 00:48
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oh I don't know, some of my interests and goals are the same as a multi millionaire . . . I just don't have the cash to realise them :D

papa smurf 13-09-2026 07:07
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come on billionaires one of you tight wads can beat 36 million

Jaymoss 13-09-2026 09:27
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Digital Britain creeping in behind their immigration policies.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36222304)
It's not going to be good for any of us if our politics moves closer to the US, where all the parties are funded by the wealthiest people in society.

The person who has hundreds of millions of pounds is going to have different interests and different goals than those who do not have millions of pounds.
I hope you do not think the wheels of power are not lubricated by the wealthy already? Figureheads are puppets for the 1%

Carth 13-09-2026 10:43
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I think the UK's 'wheels of power' got a puncture many years ago, and although a majority voted for the repair kit it was only applied in a half hearted way ;)

Damien 13-09-2026 19:57
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36222311)
I hope you do not think the wheels of power are not lubricated by the wealthy already? Figureheads are puppets for the 1%
The UK is nowhere near as bad as the US. We have so many rules about political spending, and only one media market, that you can't just buy elections here.

Even Reform's millions will be difficult to spend in formats other than social media.

Of course, if they're elected, they'll change that.

Carth 13-09-2026 20:21
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36222331)
The UK is nowhere near as bad as the US. We have so many rules about political spending, and only one media market, that you can't just buy elections here.

Even Reform's millions will be difficult to spend in formats other than social media.

Of course, if they're elected, they'll change that.
By the time that happens, the £72 million could be worth as much as . . . £827.84 in real money

Jaymoss 13-09-2026 20:48
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36222333)
By the time that happens, the £72 million could be worth as much as . . . £827.84 in real money
all the wealthy know which coins to invest in

Projected value of bitcoin for example. If you invest £1 in bitcoin now by 2030 it is projected to be worth £2.40

jem 13-09-2026 21:37
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36222335)
....If you invest £1 in bitcoin now by 2030 it is projected to be worth £2.40
or possibly 1p, maybe, or worth nothing. Who can tell?

Dingbat 14-09-2026 00:08
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Originally Posted by jem (Post 36222336)
or possibly 1p, maybe, or worth nothing. Who can tell?
Depends on if those pesky AI Things take over those crypto computers and go rogue with all those squinttilions of crypto coins to crash the world economy.

Jaymoss 14-09-2026 07:48
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Originally Posted by jem (Post 36222336)
or possibly 1p, maybe, or worth nothing. Who can tell?
Yeah that is the investment risk but those who "Hedge" their bets and follow the patterns know it is all manipulated

1andrew1 14-09-2026 20:36
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36222333)
By the time that happens, the £72 million could be worth as much as . . . £827.84 in real money
In which case, I'm sure they'll find another altruistic bitcoin billionaire who won't want anything in return. ;)

Carth 14-09-2026 22:45
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36222369)
In which case, I'm sure they'll find another altruistic bitcoin billionaire who won't want anything in return. ;)
I'm sure they will, and Labour will always have the financial backing of the trade unions (although they NEVER get anything in return) ;)

1andrew1 15-09-2026 13:42
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36222371)
I'm sure they will, and Labour will always have the financial backing of the trade unions (although they NEVER get anything in return) ;)
They've been honest on that score and acknowledged their members do.

However, the bitcoin billionaires know that if Nige tells his faithful flock that the £72m is unconditional, they will believe him.

Carth 15-09-2026 14:33
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What do you think he's going to do with it?

Apart from quite possibly a villa in Spain, a yacht, a Scottish castle (complete with moat and maybe one of those motor homes that are in vogue up there) ;)

He could possibly use it to try *buying* votes, but that's not going to work, neither is building a platform advocating for bitcoin to be recognised UK currency.

Thoughts?

Hugh 15-09-2026 15:02
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36222371)
I'm sure they will, and Labour will always have the financial backing of the trade unions (although they NEVER get anything in return) ;)
Yes, you’re right - getting money from Unions who gather it from millions of individual workers who all reside and pay tax in this country and who have opted-in to make a contribution to a Political Fund is almost exactly the same as receiving tens of millions of funding from money-laundering billionaires who decided to live overseas to avoid paying tax…

Carth 15-09-2026 16:04
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I'd be careful with the 'money laundering' statement Hugh, unless you know something that should also be reported to the authorities and investigators ;)

Itshim 15-09-2026 16:12
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Have problems in Wales .leader resigning, reported to police and released with out charge. MS thought to going to plaid.

Dingbat 15-09-2026 17:50
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36222381)
Have problems in Wales .leader resigning, reported to police and released with out charge. MS thought to going to plaid.
That’s the second leader Reform have lost in the Senedd, after their Russian asset Nathan Gill was jailed.

Hugh 15-09-2026 18:00
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36222380)
I'd be careful with the 'money laundering' statement Hugh, unless you know something that should also be reported to the authorities and investigators ;)
Why - Delo pled guilty to the offence, and then he was pardoned, not exonerated…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly79gpp22do

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In 2022, Delo was convicted in the US for failing to implement adequate anti-money laundering controls at BitMex. He was sentenced to 30 months of probation and given a $10m (£7.3m) fine for violating the US Bank Secrecy Act, but was subsequently pardoned by President Donald Trump.
https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequ...sked-questions

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A pardon is an expression of the President’s forgiveness and can be granted in recognition of the applicant’s acceptance of responsibility for the crime and established good conduct for a significant period of time after conviction or completion of sentence
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Please also be aware that if you were to be granted a presidential pardon, the pardoned offense would not be removed from your criminal record. Instead, both the federal conviction as well as the pardon would both appear on your record.
His company was fined another $100 million for money-laundering in January 2025…

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr...nk-secrecy-act

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Company Willfully Flouted U.S. Anti-Money Laundering Laws to Boost Revenue

Matthew Podolsky, Attorney for the United States, Acting under Authority Conferred by 28 U.S.C. § 515, announced that HDR GLOBAL TRADING LTD., a/k/a “BITMEX”, was sentenced today to a fine of $100 million for violating the Bank Secrecy Act by willfully failing to establish, implement, and maintain an adequate anti-money laundering (“AML”) and know-your-customer (“KYC”) program.

Attorney for the United States Matthew Podolsky said: “Anti-money laundering and know-your-customer rules protect Americans from fraud, combat money laundering, and prevent the financing of terrorist activity. It is critical that all financial institutions, including cryptocurrency exchanges, comply with these rules to protect our country’s economy and national security. Today’s sentence sends a clear message that companies that willfully violate these rules and refuse to implement AML/KYC programs will face consequences.”

According to the allegations in the Information and other filings and statements made in court:

Arthur Hayes, Benjamin Delo, and Samuel Reed founded BITMEX in or about 2014, and Gregory Dwyer became BITMEX’s first employee in 2015 and later its Head of Business Development. BITMEX, which has long serviced and solicited business from U.S. traders and operated through U.S. offices, was required to register with the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (“CFTC”) and to establish and maintain an adequate AML program. AML programs ensure that financial institutions, such as BITMEX, are not exploited for illicit purposes and serve to protect the integrity of the U.S. financial system and national security more broadly.

BITMEX and its executives knew that because BITMEX served U.S. customers, it was required to implement an AML program that included a KYC component but chose to flaunt those requirements, requiring only that customers provide an email address to use BITMEX’s services. Indeed, senior executives each knew that customers residing in the U.S. continued to access BITMEX’s trading platform through at least in or about 2018, and that BITMEX policies nominally in place to prevent such trading were toothless or easily overridden to serve BITMEX’s bottom line goal of obtaining revenue through the U.S. market without regard to U.S. criminal laws. Corporate executives took affirmative steps purportedly designed to exempt BITMEX from the application of U.S. laws like AML and KYC requirements, despite knowing of BITMEX’s obligation to implement such programs by operating in the U.S. As part of BITMEX’s willful evasion of U.S. AML laws, the company lied to a bank about the purpose and nature of a subsidiary to allow BITMEX to pump millions of dollars through the U.S. financial system.

Hayes, Delo, and Reed, BITMEX’s three founders and top executives, and Dwyer, another top executive, all previously entered guilty pleas for violating the Bank Secrecy Act and were sentenced in 2022. The corporation entered a guilty plea on July 10, 2024, and was sentenced today.

In addition to the fine, BITMEX was sentenced to two years’ probation.

Mr. Podolsky praised the outstanding investigative work of the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s New York Money Laundering Investigation Squad.

The prosecution is being handled by the Office’s Illicit Finance & Money Laundering Unit. Assistant U.S. Attorneys Jessica Greenwood and Thane Rehn are in charge of the prosecution.

Carth 15-09-2026 18:23
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ooooh you're right, he's a wrong un. . . upsetting the Banks of America gets my vote :D

Forgot to add, what do you think Farage will do with all those ill gotten gains?

OLD BOY 15-09-2026 18:43
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36222381)
Have problems in Wales .leader resigning, reported to police and released with out charge. MS thought to going to plaid.
It’s no big deal. There was no public outrage when Liberal Democrat Cameron Thomas was arrested on suspicion of assault and controlling and coercive behaviour last June. Or any of the others over the years.

Even when John Prescott punched that guy on the High Street all those years ago, Tony Blair didn’t think it was a big deal.

“John is John!” he said, blithely and with a big grin on his face.

But when it’s a Reform UK politician, people tear down walls in the rush to condemn them and their party. It’s pathetic, really, isn’t it?

Carth 15-09-2026 19:31
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Let them keep kicking out at them, it's probably doing more to bolster the Reform votes than anything else :D

Hugh 15-09-2026 19:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36222386)
ooooh you're right, he's a wrong un. . . upsetting the Banks of America gets my vote :D

Forgot to add, what do you think Farage will do with all those ill gotten gains?
He didn’t "upset the Banks" (the Department of Justice isn’t a bank), he broke the law and pled guilty…

I think Reform will use the money to employ campaign managers and branch coordinators in hundreds of seats across the country (they’re already advertising for them), pay for more mail drops and door-to-door canvassing to identify switching voters and non-voters who might be persuaded to turn out, pay for more data gathering and analysis, and then use this info by paying for specifically targeted social media ads and mainstream media in any upcoming elections (Parliamentary and Local), and probably to pay for more Policy experts to help give shape to more policies than "crypto is good" and "ship brown people back"….

1andrew1 15-09-2026 22:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36222388)
Let them keep kicking out at them, it's probably doing more to bolster the Reform votes than anything else :D
Yet more wishful thinking!

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Nigel Farage more unpopular than ever, new poll shows

Nigel Farage now has a net favourability rating of -45, identical to Sir Keir Starmer’s score just before his resignation as prime minister

A new poll conducted by YouGov shows that almost seven in ten Britons (69 per cent) say they have an unfavourable opinion of the Reform leader.

While this is within the margin of error of last month’s figure (67 per cent), it is the highest figure recorded by YouGov's tracker for Mr Farage in the ten years it has run.

This includes nearly six in ten Britons (57 per cent) seeing Mr Farage very unfavourably, while just 24 per cent have a favourable opinion of the Reform UK leader.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b3049761.html

Carth 16-09-2026 02:21
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Ask Hugh about my opinion of polls ;)

And Hugh did at least answer the question (quite well too) about what Farage is probably going to do with the cash


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