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Two words and the second one is off


A month ago i renewed my paper driving license due to me changing my address [i moved in 1987] and no one has ever asked to se it since 1986 i changed to a photo id because i'm 70 next birthday

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Are they going to make it a legal requirement for this new ID to be carried at all times? If they don’t what’s the point ?

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It will be for whenever you need to prove who you are. So jobs, opening bank accounts, e.t.c.

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all because the government are filling the country with illegal migrants

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You already need photo id and proof of address to open a bank account and employers have to perform the checks for your eligibility to work generally again photo id

How does this improve on current checks ?

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It doesnt.

If it were optional, fair enough, but forced ? Unnecessary big brother.

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Yet another step in us becoming the next North Korea. I never thought it would be Labour that would push this level of control over the public.

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Keir Starmer has put me on the same side of an argument as Jeremy Corbyn, the git.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1758828115

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if starmer thinks this will save him he's wrong, i think it will finish him

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'How will it go down in the Commons?' is my question. I can see a voluntary scheme would be helpful for those who do not drive or hold passports and could make it easier for them to access banking services, verify websites etc.

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Anti- ID has already smashed through 600K. 6 x the number needed to trigger a parliamentary debate,

Sign it here.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194

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That’s because it’s not meant to.

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Of course not. It's just another diversion to make it look like they are doing something.

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That won't be enough, though. You'll need it to access services, to claim benefits, to be inspected by your employers, to have a bank account, etc.

Illegal immigrants will simply work under the radar, as they do now.

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i'm wondering what make of smart phone the government will be buying me to put this digital id on

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first thing i did this morning

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2000 signatures added within the time it took for me to click the email link to confirm mine. 750K already . The public do not want this Starmer works for us he needs to realise this. He is committing political suicide. Guy is a moron

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776,763 signatures as of right now, including mine.

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(Edit) make that 777,110 :D

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782,265 :D

The ‘heat map’ showing where signatories are from exposes Starmer’s problem - London is notably less worried about this than literally anywhere else in the UK. He’s surrounded by metropolitan liberals who are all telling him what a great wheeze this all is. He has no idea what he’s taken on.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1758881550

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I already have an ID card from another country, it's pretty useful tbh. I've said before that I would like a UK one. We've been rolling out more and more checks between you and the state over the last decades so at some point we need to provide a universal way to do that. (or rollback some of those excesses, like having to show ID to vote)

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25K in less than 20 minutes
I bet they expected a backlash but this is pretty damning will be over the million today I reckon

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Did he think of these ID cards himself, or was he listening to advice and direction from all those 'oh so clever' experts he has surrounding him?

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Tony Blair no doubt

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whoever floated it was a prize prick of extreme measures . Literally killed the parties future chances of anything . Did Reform doing so well in the local not teach them anything? they just handed them it on a sliver platter

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Probably the same bunch of Muppets that decided we need to age check everyone and make them give there personal data to any Tom Dick or Harry which pushed more and more people into using VPN's. Now Labour will be push even more people to Reform as you can bet your bottom dollar they will be the party to oppose this stupid idea

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Probably time the Government(s) introduced a new department, an integral and much overlooked addition to how they operate.

I give you . . the Office of Political Suicide

:D

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Meanwhile, John Swinney demonstrates his calibre as a statesman by weighing up all the serious privacy and State overreach issues and concluding the ID card scheme is actually wrong because it would force Scots to say they’re British.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce32k5rx7zko

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ass hats everywhere and people wonder why I am totally apathetic to the lot of it

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1,009,057 as at 3pm.

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yeah screw starmer this is gonna be one hell of a number me thinks

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It’s putting on almost 2,000 signatures per minute at the moment. By teatime this one will be vast - more than large enough to warrant a mention in news reporting this evening I hope.

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I think he is too stupid to have realised it was gonna receive a backlash like this the guy is so out of touch. New Labour tbh has always been out of touch. Socialists which are no they are not any more are meant to be in touch with the working classes but a Knight of the realm with no clue has no place in the labour party

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It will not be long before we have political correction centres like China. :rolleyes:

However, in the real world i can see this being the end of Starmer because once the Mp's see the backlash over this they will just get rid of him. Mp's cannot be trusted we all know that, and they will stab anyone in the back to save their own skin.

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Signed.

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Probably the same people that want illegal immigration controlled. Making it impossible to work or claim benefits here without the ID is a disincentive to come.

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That petition has just hit 2 million. Starmer has truly united the country in a way nobody thought possible.

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Signed

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Yet he wouldn't be bothered if they had to say they were European.


If it's only going to be required when looking for a job, a large number of people won't need or get one. That means it's of limited use.

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Labours core voters - the bone idle

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Those already in a job also won't need one either.

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Is that stated somewhere ?
I've not come across that myself.

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Quite a way down in this article, but I've seen it said elsewhere as well.
Link
I suppose that could read as applying to those already in work, as each time they go to work they are "looking to work" that day.

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Hopefully KS is gone by Christmas, and Labour ASAP

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Surprised this hasn't already been mentioned, Multiverse is one of, if not the leading contender to produce the ID cards. Guess who set that company up, Euan Blair, you couldn't make it up :shocked:

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Some know how the wheel spins :shrug: good for them for getting involved :tu:

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I read a while ago it had rising debts - no idea if that's still he case.

I guess with a Govt. contract to produce ID cards the debt (if any) will disappear overnight ;)

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My view has always been a difference between ID cards and entitlement "devices" that can serve as ID. Driving license is entitlement to drive and with a photo can be used to show identity. A passport is a border movement document (visa also required sometimes) that can also show identity.
I have no problem with entitlement cards but I do with ID cards. I certainly would have issues with a single card then replacing all the others. Everyone gets an ID and you add on entitlements or remove them as needed. Now put that power in to a future, totalitarian regime let alone an incompetent one. At a touch of a dictators whim your right to work is removed.

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It looks as if it might have been made up - Multiverse is a EdTech training and apprenticeship company, not a software provider or a systems integration company.

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:D when did not having the knowledge, machinery and infrastructure ever stop a business with 'connections' from getting a lucrative Govt. contract :D

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been listening to rachael from customer services at the labour con ference

what a load of old horse shyte this woman spouts

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Get out for a nice walk, it's a lovely day, and Rachael just stresses you :)

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She'll be stressing you come the budget

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You're a bit of a glutton for punishment.

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Is she not better than the corrosive figure that is Rishi 'in we rust' Sunak?

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Didn't watch, scratched my arse instead.

Did she happen to mention anything about introducing a 70% grant for homeowners to install solar panels?
Just a thought seeing as Electricity is going to be a rare commodity in a few years :D

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i was no fan of rishi but he could add up numbers

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Rachael can also make numbers add up:

£2 Billion black hole, take away pensioners winter fuel payment = £10 Billion black hole :rofl:

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The fascinating world of mathemagics

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Not sure what you point is there ?

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Smurf said Rishi Sunak could add up. The link I posted points out the virus multiplied within the participation of the eat out to help out scheme which Rishi Sunak was central to.

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The Chancellor's speech was free of meaningful contnent. It was mainly made up of "We are nothing like the Conservatives"; "We are nothing like Reform" sort of thing. Nothing about how they are going to sort out the economy other than they're busy doing it.

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you can smell the stench of death in the air




I was shocked to hear that labours idea of a working class hero is a woman who evaded £40,000 in taxes

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On the contrary, she was quite obviously getting her excuses in early for the tax rises she already knows she’ll be making in the budget. All that stuff about international circumstances changing etc. It may not be what anyone wanted to hear and it may not actually fix anything, but the meaning was there for anyone inclined to listen.

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They never should have said they wouldn't raise NI. The previous cut was the first thing that should have gone. The tax bands will be frozen again, but then they have been for years.

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:shocked:

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it's tough at the top init;)

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Shabana Mahmood init :LOL:

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and what does that have to do with his ability to add up - I still dont get it :confused:

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You're right! He may not be petri dish educated. My bad.

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Booking a GP appointment to be available at any time during the day :woot:

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yep you can book one for 5 weeks into the future if you're still ill or alive



great speech from wes streeting ,we need the tax evader back,we need her experience [presumably in tax evasion]

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LOL, good luck with that at 2pm in the afternoon.

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Before the morning route was introduced I when rarely ever needed to see a doctor use to get an appointment same day. I've never had issue obtaining an appointment. If I want a specific time then I have to wait but when flexible an appointment is made same day :shrug:

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First new policy seems to be the scrapping of the 50% of students to uni target.

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Good. That policy was insane from day one and reeked of four legs good, two legs better.

The right education for each young person should be the target, not some arbitrary class envy hangover about university.

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lovely bit of phoney staged flag waving during starmers speech ,I'm sure we all fell for that

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I think that part, where he was talking about people who want to deport others who are here legally and also people who try to define Englishness as exclusively white, was important for a Prime Minister to say. I was disappointed he didn't do it earlier.

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Well sounds like you were glued to it. Told you to get out a bit. Do some pilates classes or volunteer at the food bank. You'll get an enormous sense of wellbeing rather than watching politicians you don't like all day.... :)

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https://news.sky.com/story/starmers-...nored-13441790

Most successful moments…………

Yeah, talking to his sycophants. He and Reeves are hated, at record speed.

If he doesn’t sort out immigration, energy costs, growth and the tax burden….none of which I saw being addressed, nothing will change.

Nigel is laughing.

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Nigel was furious about the false representation of Reform’s policies. Streeting even claimed that a guest speaker at their recent Conference was their health advisor!

I have a lot of time for Streeting, but he disappointed me with his Reform UK onslaught. He’s better than that.

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Do you mean Aseem Malhotra, who was introduced at Reform UK's conference by Richard Tice as, "I know this chap, he worked with me to write Reform UK's health policy"?

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When they introduced him they said he helped write their health policy, so I think it's fair to call him their advisor.

Reform needs to put their big boy pants on and understand in politics you get criticised. It's always the same with Farage, he gives it out then whines when he gets any back.

They invited him to speak, they invited him to help write their health policy, so even own it or admit it was a mistake. Don't cry and demand an apology for people pointing out the thing you did.

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https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status...18152602452028

Some strange going ons here.

https://x.com/Lewis_Brackpool/status...14041235001441

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There’s nothing new about people catching speculative door-rattling criminals on Ring cameras. Videos like that get posted on our local community facebook page on a monthly basis.

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I live in a relatively high crime area and keep getting the old bill knocking asking me to check my feed. Like I have all day when they can not give even a close timeframe to search . Plus they are all wise to it now and just wear balaclavas anyway. Oh yeah at -02.30 someone gender unknown about normal height dressed in black all over did it officer

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No, the other Aseem Malhotra! :D

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From the Telegraph today:

The Labour Party is facing questions over alleged payments to journalists and influencers to post social media content that criticises Reform UK.

A company with links to the Labour Party has allegedly approached journalists offering to pay them £50 per week to post “progressive” videos online on themes such as “Nigel Farage does not stand for the working class”.

It raises the question of whether Labour is secretly funding social media content that appears to be independent, rather than being transparent with voters and making clear whether it has sponsored social media posts.

The Labour Party has refused to say whether it is funding the videos, which are claimed to be the brainchild of 411 Communications, a company set up by ex-Labour staffers last year. Its name refers to the number of seats won by Labour at the general election.

Labour would only say that it does not comment on “confidential arrangements” with any of its contractors.

Political parties are supposed to be transparent in identifying themselves as funding advertisements. So much for their ‘rules based’ view they allegedly have on society when it suits them.

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Farage said he didn’t agree with what he said about the vaccine causing cancer. One little point you forgot to mention in your desperation to vilify Reform.

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If you don't want to be associated with a particular Doctor, don't have them write your health policy and invite them to speak at your conference.

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Apparently, it was all "some miscommunication or misunderstanding"…

https://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/2...-legal-threat/

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A clear case of taking a hard line against *probably* some journalists twisting things to get a better 'more edgy' story, then having to backtrack due to 'legal' reasons.

I'd just give them 'no comment' in future :D

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Have I Got News For You reported this as fact! Even though, as Hugh has said, it's not true and was just stuff from Twitter. https://fullfact.org/technology/digital-id-euan-blair/

Not only is there no source for this, but his company doesn't even do this kind of work.

Yet not one writer or lawyer on a BBC show that goes out at 9 pm decided to check just a basic detail.

We have a media class so obsessed with social media that misinformation just seeps into everything.

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I’m struggling to ascertain what the actual issue is?

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It’s curious that so many are focussing on negatives relating to Reform UK while accepting without comment what the established political parties are up to.

True derangement if I ever saw it.

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This is the Starmer thread, and not the Reform one. If you read it, is pretty critical of him.

There’s not a thread on the Conservatives or Lib Dems, but you could start one.

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That everyone's brains are filled with social media crap to the point that 'saw something on Twitter' seems to be enough to be broadcast.

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You just described 85% of journalists :D