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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36204419)

If Obama got one whilst continuing to prosecute two wars, then I think Trump should be ok.

Obama was the first black president of the USA and the committee got carried away with the idea of what that *might* mean for racial peace and harmony. In effect, they gave him the prize on credit. It was an obvious error, and one I’m certain they will be delighted not to repeat with the USA’s first orange president.

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Great news about the Nobel peace prize ,Trump's not getting it.

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And in a truly epic piece of trolling, they’ve given it to a Venezuelan.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36204431)

And in a truly epic piece of trolling, they’ve given it to a Venezuelan.

All joking aside, in order to be considered for the award of the year, nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize shall be sent in to the Norwegian Nobel Committee in Oslo before the 1st day of February the same year.

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Someone’s for the chop for not lodging a nomination on the day Trump took office. After all, within 24 hours of that the Ukraine - Russia war woukld have been resolved. Innit?

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And he stopped the war in Abbaburgervan

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EU and UK should let Trump know that if the Gaza peace deal is a success and he gets peace for Ukraine by the end of January, they will all nominate him.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36204437)

Joyously, that’s not how the diaper’d orange baby will see it.

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Who could have seen this coming?

(from Truth Social)

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"Some very strange things are happening in China! They are becoming very hostile, and sending letters to Countries throughout the World, that they want to impose Export Controls on each and every element of production having to do with Rare Earths, and virtually anything else they can think of, even if it’s not manufactured in China. Nobody has ever seen anything like this but, essentially, it would “clog” the Markets, and make life difficult for virtually every Country in the World, especially for China. We have been contacted by other Countries who are extremely angry at this great Trade hostility, which came out of nowhere. Our relationship with China over the past six months has been a very good one, thereby making this move on Trade an even more surprising one. I have always felt that they’ve been lying in wait, and now, as usual, I have been proven right! There is no way that China should be allowed to hold the World “captive,” but that seems to have been their plan for quite some time, starting with the “Magnets” and, other Elements that they have quietly amassed into somewhat of a Monopoly position, a rather sinister and hostile move, to say the least. But the U.S. has Monopoly positions also, much stronger and more far reaching than China’s. I have just not chosen to use them, there was never a reason for me to do so — UNTIL NOW! The letter they sent is many pages long, and details, with great specificity, each and every Element that they want to withhold from other Nations. Things that were routine are no longer routine at all. I have not spoken to President Xi because there was no reason to do so. This was a real surprise, not only to me, but to all the Leaders of the Free World. I was to meet President Xi in two weeks, at APEC, in South Korea, but now there seems to be no reason to do so. The Chinese letters were especially inappropriate in that this was the Day that, after three thousand years of bedlam and fighting, there is PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. I wonder if that timing was coincidental? Dependent on what China says about the hostile “order” that they have just put out, I will be forced, as President of the United States of America, to financially counter their move. For every Element that they have been able to monopolize, we have two. I never thought it would come to this but perhaps, as with all things, the time has come. Ultimately, though potentially painful, it will be a very good thing, in the end, for the U.S.A. One of the Policies that we are calculating at this moment is a massive increase of Tariffs on Chinese products coming into the United States of America. There are many other countermeasures that are, likewise, under serious consideration. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA"

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https://www.reuters.com/world/china/...ls-2025-10-09/

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China expands rare earths restrictions, targets defense and chips users

China dramatically expanded its rare earths export controls on Thursday, adding five new elements and extra scrutiny for semiconductor users as Beijing tightens control over the sector ahead of talks between Presidents Donald Trump and Xi Jinping.

The world's largest rare earths producer also added dozens of pieces of refining technology to its control list and announced rules that will require compliance from foreign rare earth producers who use Chinese materials.

The Ministry of Commerce's announcements follow U.S. lawmakers' call on Tuesday for broader bans on the export of chipmaking equipment to China.
They expand controls Beijing announced in April that caused shortages around the world, before a series of deals with Europe and the U.S. eased the supply crunch.

"The White House and relevant agencies are closely assessing any impact from the new rules, which were announced without any notice and imposed in an apparent effort to exert control over the entire world's technology supply chains," a White House official told Reuters on Thursday.

The new curbs come ahead of a scheduled face-to-face meeting between Trump and Xi in South Korea at the end of October.

"This helps with increasing leverage for Beijing ahead of the anticipated Trump-Xi summit in (South) Korea later this month," said Tim Zhang, founder of Singapore-based Edge Research.

China produces over 90% of the world's processed rare earths and rare earth magnets. The 17 rare earths are vital materials in products ranging from electric vehicles to aircraft engines and military radars.

Exports of 12 of them are now restricted after the ministry added five - holmium, erbium, thulium, europium and ytterbium - along with related materials.

Foreign companies producing some of the rare earths and related magnets on the list will now also need a Chinese export licence if the final product contains or is made with Chinese equipment or material. This applies even if the transaction includes no Chinese companies.

The regulations mimic rules the U.S. has implemented to restrict other countries' exports of semiconductor-related products to China.

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https://wapo.st/4oeRb3Y

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Trump says he has authorized covert CIA action in Venezuela

President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he had authorized the Central Intelligence Agency to conduct operations in Venezuela, markedly escalating U.S. pressure on President Nicolás Maduro amid a string of lethal strikes against alleged drug trafficking boats in Caribbean waters off that country’s coast.

Trump declined to say whether he had authorized the CIA to overthrow Maduro, a step some of his top national security aides have urged. “I think Venezuela’s feeling the heat,” he said at a White House news conference.

The president was asked about reports that he signed a highly classified document, known as a “finding,” that allows the CIA to conduct covert operations in foreign countries, ranging from clandestine information operations to training guerrilla opposition forces and conducting lethal strikes. Trump’s order was reported earlier by the New York Times. The details of the new authorities now available to the CIA remain unclear.

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covert

definition: secret or hidden

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Mr I make peace not war, lol. Won't with and prizes for that sort of behaviour.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36204756)

https://wapo.st/4oeRb3Y

Trump- definition

Loud mouthed pillock

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36204756)

https://wapo.st/4oeRb3Y

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Trump says he has authorized covert CIA action in Venezuela

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covert

definition: secret or hidden

If the critique is that trump has said he has authorised "covert" CIA action. Where exactly in the piece does he say that?

I can't see any quote attributed to Trump (and there's hardly any quotes from him in the article, by the way) where he says he has authorised covert CIA action.

The NYT and the WP are saying he has authorised "covert" action, he hasn't.

He's not said anything in those two articles that imply what he's going to do, how he's going to it, or when. The only quote in both article that would imply any action is about to be done is:

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We are certainly looking at land now, because we’ve got the sea very well under control

From that one quote you have these two articles.

The rest is fluff from unnamed and uncorroborated "people familiar with the matter", or "former US officials said"

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Trump says he authorised CIA in Venezuela as Maduro says 'no to regime change'

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0ex1jq9pdvo

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Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office on Wednesday alongside FBI Director Kash Patel and Attorney General Pam Bondi, Trump was questioned about the New York Times report.

"Why did you authorise the CIA to go into Venezuela?" a journalist asked.

"I authorised for two reasons really," Trump said in a highly unusual acknowledgement from a US commander-in-chief about an intelligence organisation whose activities are typically shrouded in secrecy.

"Number one, they [Venezuela] have emptied their prisons into the United States of America."

He added: "And the other thing are drugs. We have a lot of drugs coming in from Venezuela, and a lot of the Venezuelan drugs come in through the sea, so you get to see that, but we're going to stop them by land also."

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36204766)

Trump says he authorised CIA in Venezuela as Maduro says 'no to regime change'

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0ex1jq9pdvo

OK fine, but that wasn't in the original story you posted.

Where does he say that the CIA operations he authorised were "covert", which was the source of your ridicule

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From my post above

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The president was asked about reports that he signed a highly classified document, known as a “finding,” that allows the CIA to conduct covert operations in foreign countries, ranging from clandestine information operations to training guerrilla opposition forces and conducting lethal strikes

And from the NY Times

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Mr. Trump acknowledged on Wednesday that he had authorized the covert action

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PubeNews is fake news :rofl:

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I felt like Trump for a moment :o:

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36204770)

From my post above

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Not him saying it

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And from the NY Times

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Mr. Trump acknowledged on Wednesday that he had authorized the covert action

Not him saying it.

I’m only pushing this as you posted as to ridicule him for saying out loud that he had authorised “covert” action.

When there doesn’t seem to be any record of that, only of other people saying he’s authorised covert action

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I can find it for you, I can post it for you, I can’t understand it for you…

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36204815)

I can find it for you, I can post it for you, I can’t understand it for you…

Well if and when you find it and post it, I’ll understand it.

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36204817)

Well if and when you find it and post it, I’ll understand it.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36204821)

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2025/10/3.jpg

You want to say it.

But have failed to provide the necessary to back up your hilarious post on “covert” actions.

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https://wapo.st/4nX6crg

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George Santos released from prison after Trump commutes sentence

Disgraced former congressman George Santos (R-New York) was released from prison late Friday after President Donald Trump commuted his sentence for identity theft and wire fraud.

Santos was released from prison Friday night, according to his attorney, Joe Murray. His family picked him up, Murray said.

“George Santos was somewhat of a ‘rogue,’ but there are many rogues throughout our Country that aren’t forced to serve seven years in prison,” said Trump in a social media post announcing the commutation. “Therefore, I just signed a Commutation, releasing George Santos from prison, IMMEDIATELY. Good luck George, have a great life!”

Santos, who was expelled from the House after being accused of financial misconduct and telling myriad lies about his background, was sentenced to more than seven years in prison after pleading guilty to federal charges of aggravated identity theft and wire fraud. He was less than three months into his sentence when his release was ordered…

… Santos admitted to defrauding donors to his 2022 campaign by taking their money for his personal use and charging thousands of dollars on their credit cards without authorization, among other charges. He also admitted in court to wrongfully claiming unemployment benefits for nearly a year and making false statements to Congress on his required disclosure statements, in which he said that he had millions of dollars in fabricated assets.

He had just been elected to Congress in 2022 when news reports began exposing a slew of lies he had told about his background. He claimed to have studied at educational institutions he never attended for high school, college and business school. He said he worked at the Wall Street firms Goldman Sachs and Citigroup; he did not. He falsely said that his mother was inside the World Trade Center during the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and that his grandparents fled the Holocaust.

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So Trump proving yet again, you can be a crook and get away with it.

It is absolutely shocking, if the guy had been a democrat Trump would be calling for him to remain in prison forever.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36204914)

https://wapo.st/4nX6crg

he sounds like America's version of that lady from accounts

it's all about who your friends are and not what laws you have broken :(

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36204915)

So Trump proving yet again, you can be a crook and get away with it.

It is absolutely shocking, if the guy had been a democrat Trump would be calling for him to remain in prison forever.

Money, power and corruption, what could go wrong!!!

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36204915)

So Trump proving yet again, you can be a crook and get away with it.

Anyone else get the feeling this is a test to see how much uproar there is before pardoning maxwell, that's if war with Venezuela doesn't distract everyone from epstein enough first

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No more shocking than Biden pardoning his entire family or any of Obama’s political pardons, or any past U.S. president’s political pardons.

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36204922)

No more shocking than Biden pardoning his entire family or any of Obama’s political pardons, or any past U.S. president’s political pardons.

The ability of pardoning someone should be taken out of the hands of presidents and be done by a body that has no political ties and affiliations with those in power.

At the moment we have presidents who will use it for their own corrupted and personal ends.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36204923)

Thankfully *we* have no such thing. *They* do, because when they created their republic they gave their president powers that were broadly similar to those exercised by European monarchs of the time.

It’s super-ironic when they take to the streets yelling about ‘No Kings’ when their president is by design much more king-like than those who actually exercise executive authority in the government they gave the boot (i.e. ours, where royal prerogatives of the sort Trump can exercise directly are almost always now exercised by a prime minister who is part of, and stands or falls with, the legislature that he’s a part of.