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papa smurf 27-06-2017 09:40
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35905077)
The trouble is you think too much me dear or shall say read too much educational literature..;)
there's nothing wrong with education some remoaners should give it a try ;)

Mr K 27-06-2017 09:46
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Don't mention intelligence, those Brexiteers are very touchy on the subject.... ;)

denphone 27-06-2017 09:49
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905079)
there's nothing wrong with education some remoaners should give it a try ;)
Not being a remoaner myself unless you are calling me one ;) but l think if someone is being more knowledgeable on the subject means both sides need to educate themselves more IMO over Brexit and many other subjects instead of some coming out with the usual generalising , stereotyping ad nauseam comments.

papa smurf 27-06-2017 10:20
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35905082)
Not being a remoaner myself unless you are calling me one ;) but l think if someone is being more knowledgeable on the subject means both sides need to educate themselves more IMO over Brexit and many other subjects instead of some coming out with the usual generalising , stereotyping ad nauseam comments.
no i'm not calling you a remoaner ;)

re someone being more knowledgeable on a subject the question is are they or are they just spouting opinion which has no basis in fact .

denphone 27-06-2017 10:23
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905099)
no i'm not calling you a remoaner ;)

re someone being more knowledgeable on a subject the question is are they or are they just spouting opinion which has no basis in fact .
Quite a few spout a opinion with no basis in fact.;)

papa smurf 27-06-2017 10:24
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905081)
Don't mention intelligence, those Brexiteers are very touchy on the subject.... ;)
unlike remoaners who when faced with a simple question remain or leave seem to think there are 18 different answers

heero_yuy 27-06-2017 10:32
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BRITAIN should pay no more than £26 billion for its EU divorce bill- less than a third of the figure Brussels is demanding – a leading think tank warned last night.

The Institute of Economic Affairs said the UK should continue to honour its usual payments to the EU until the end of the current budget period of 2020 and calculated this sum at £21 billion.
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Meanwhile tank Policy Exchange on Tuesday will issue a scathing assessment of the models used by the Treasury, the IMF and OECD in last year’s referendum campaign to forecast a major economic downturn in the event of a Brexit turn.

Its detailed research found their forecasts were misleading and “overly pessimistic”.

Each of the forecasts from the leading institutions have proven to be wrong - and earlier this year the IMF was forced to raise its prediction for Britain’s economy for the second time this year.
Source

Osem 27-06-2017 14:09
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Ever since Britain voted to leave the European Union, analysts have debated the City's fate. In 2016, the British financial services sector employed over one million people (3.1 percent of all U.K. jobs) and contributed around 7.2 percent of the U.K.’s total gross value added, just over half of it from London. Any threat to the sector -- and to London's place as arguably the leading global financial center -- would be a major blow.

Fortunately for the U.K., Brexit itself won't erode the significant advantages London currently enjoys. Perhaps more importantly, neither will it help European rivals build up similar advantages.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic..._medium=social

RizzyKing 27-06-2017 15:23
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London has the infrastructure to handle global financial markets the other european options don't and their national governments will not spend the required amounts without gaurantees of the business going to them who of course can't give such gaurantees as they cannot test it out. Massive moves from London was yet another remain scare tactic that like so many others was complete rubbish and the fact remain jumped on some financial institutions opening new offices in the EU as proof of the soon to be influx from London was just desperate.

Osem 27-06-2017 16:41
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Jon Snow's credentials seem to be shining through these days. First he misleadingly claims that the Tories have deprived young people of the right to live, work and love in Europe, now he's been captured singing rather nasty anti Tory songs at Glastonbury.

https://order-order.com/2017/06/27/t...-impartiality/

What a tool.

ianch99 27-06-2017 18:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905079)
there's nothing wrong with education some remoaners should give it a try ;)
Who exactly are you referring to? :)

pip08456 27-06-2017 21:06
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35905287)
Who exactly are you referring to? :)
If you can't figure it out perhaps your lack of it?

ianch99 27-06-2017 22:59
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35905326)
If you can't figure it out perhaps your lack of it?
11 O Levels, 3 A Levels, Degree in Astrophysics and Master's in Theoretical Astronomy ... yup, guess you're right ;) Obvious waste of time ...

TheDaddy 28-06-2017 01:22
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35905340)
11 O Levels, 3 A Levels, Degree in Astrophysics and Master's in Theoretical Astronomy ... yup, guess you're right ;) Obvious waste of time ...
Thicko :D

Damien 28-06-2017 06:28
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35905345)
Thicko :D
It's only 'theoretical' astronomy. Guess he couldn't handle the full thing ;)

ianch99 28-06-2017 07:24
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35905350)
It's only 'theoretical' astronomy. Guess he couldn't handle the full thing ;)
Yup .. real Astronomers look through telescopes :) None of that HR Main sequence rubbish ..

papa smurf 28-06-2017 08:16
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35905340)
11 O Levels, 3 A Levels, Degree in Astrophysics and Master's in Theoretical Astronomy ... yup, guess you're right ;) Obvious waste of time ...
all that and you still picked the wrong side in the referendum but it explains why your still baying at the moon ;)

jonbxx 28-06-2017 10:19
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905360)
all that and you still picked the wrong side in the referendum but it explains why your still baying at the moon ;)
Just leaving this here;

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A majority (57%) of those with a university degree voted to remain, as did 64% of those with a higher degree and more than four in five (81%) of those still in full time education. Among those whose formal education ended at secondary school or earlier, a large majority voted to leave.
Source - http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06...voted-and-why/

(8 'O' levels, 3 'A' levels, degree in Biochemistry and Ph.D in Molecular Virology remain voter at your service)

papa smurf 28-06-2017 10:53
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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35905379)
Just leaving this here;



Source - http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06...voted-and-why/

(8 'O' levels, 3 'A' levels, degree in Biochemistry and Ph.D in Molecular Virology remain voter at your service)





and you also got it wrong by picking the losing side just leaving this here :dunce:

heero_yuy 28-06-2017 11:10
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I'm sure those that are well qualified, have a good income, private health care, live in a nice house, in a nice area, with a WA school and their only contact with EU immigrants is the housekeeper, cleaner and the nanny for young Jocasta. It matters little to them being in or out of the EU so they plump for the status quo (even though it's not).

Whereas.....

Damien 28-06-2017 12:09
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35905384)
I'm sure those that are well qualified, have a good income, private health care, live in a nice house, in a nice area, with a WA school and their only contact with EU immigrants is the housekeeper, cleaner and the nanny for young Jocasta. It matters little to them being in or out of the EU so they plump for the status quo (even though it's not).

Whereas.....
I think you're right the link to education would be more about the income people with more formal education tend to receive on general. However a lot of these people are not exposed to EU immigrants because of their housekeeper but their jobs. Those working in cities, especially in jobs with high levels of qualifications required, will be working with EU immigrants in sectors such as banking, technology and the arts. Even if not then every day life.

passingbat 28-06-2017 12:19
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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35905379)
Just leaving this here;

Quote:
A majority (57%) of those with a university degree voted to remain, as did 64% of those with a higher degree and more than four in five (81%) of those still in full time education. Among those whose formal education ended at secondary school or earlier, a large majority voted to leave.
Source - http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06...voted-and-why/

(8 'O' levels, 3 'A' levels, degree in Biochemistry and Ph.D in Molecular Virology remain voter at your service)

I'll go for this one:

Quote:
1 Corinthians 1:26-29International Standard Version (ISV)

26 Brothers, think about your own calling. Not many of you were wise by human standards,[a] not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth. 27 But God chose what is nonsense in the world to make the wise feel ashamed. God chose what is weak in the world to make the strong feel ashamed. 28 And God chose what is insignificant in the world, what is despised, what is nothing, in order to destroy what is something, 29 so that no one may boast in God’s presence.
Being super qualified doesn't always mean you make the right choice and visa versa! :D

heero_yuy 28-06-2017 13:19
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35905392)
I think you're right the link to education would be more about the income people with more formal education tend to receive on general. However a lot of these people are not exposed to EU immigrants because of their housekeeper but their jobs. Those working in cities, especially in jobs with high levels of qualifications required, will be working with EU immigrants in sectors such as banking, technology and the arts. Even if not then every day life.
They may be exposed to the EU immigrants but are not in competition with for health care, social care, housing, jobs etc.

papa smurf 28-06-2017 13:26
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35905404)
They may be exposed to the EU immigrants but are not in competition with for health care, social care, housing, jobs etc.
would they be what i have heard some call libtard luvvies ?

Mr K 28-06-2017 14:36
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905406)
would they be what i have heard some call libtard luvvies ?
No, just more informed smurf and less influenced by the media.

papa smurf 28-06-2017 14:48
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905413)
No, just more informed smurf and less influenced by the media.
so not one of these

Libtard
Libtard n. Portmanteu of "liberal" and "retard". Someone who, intoxicated by being knowlegable and right about politics and economics, forgets that they need to get actual real ordinary people to support them if their agenda is to be advanced. Often but not always rich, well meaning and with good insight to society's problems, but naive about the mechanics of politics and utterly ignorant about how power actually works.

Mr K 28-06-2017 15:06
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905416)
so not one of these

Libtard
Libtard n. Portmanteu of "liberal" and "retard". Someone who, intoxicated by being knowlegable and right about politics and economics, forgets that they need to get actual real ordinary people to support them if their agenda is to be advanced. Often but not always rich, well meaning and with good insight to society's problems, but naive about the mechanics of politics and utterly ignorant about how power actually works.
Couldn't find the word in my Oxford English Dictionary. Seems to come from the US, and is a contemptuous term for anyone that disagrees with the Donald. We're British and proud, so let's keep it that way without resorting to US slang abuse. :)

papa smurf 28-06-2017 15:28
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905422)
Couldn't find the word in my Oxford English Dictionary. Seems to come from the US, and is a contemptuous term for anyone that disagrees with the Donald. We're British and proud, so let's keep it that way without resorting to US slang abuse. :)
another rendering of the term


libtard
noun
/libˈtärd/
1. an individual, whose thinking process has been
rendered impaired by political correctness and the
failure to understand that people are responsible
for their actions and the world does not owe lazy
or stupid people a living.

passingbat 28-06-2017 16:13
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905422)
We're British and proud, so let's keep it that way

Wow! Do we have a new Brexit convert? Better late than never Mr K :)

papa smurf 28-06-2017 16:38
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35905431)
Wow! Do we have a new Brexit convert? Better late than never Mr K :)
it's nice to see he's not claiming to be a citizen of the European union ,it's progress ;)

jonbxx 28-06-2017 16:38
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35905392)
I think you're right the link to education would be more about the income people with more formal education tend to receive on general. However a lot of these people are not exposed to EU immigrants because of their housekeeper but their jobs. Those working in cities, especially in jobs with high levels of qualifications required, will be working with EU immigrants in sectors such as banking, technology and the arts. Even if not then every day life.
Absolutely right, in my local office with work, we have nearly a 100 customer service representatives, covering the whole of Europe plus the Middle East and Russia. We have nearly 40 different nationalities and, off the top of my head, only Malta and Luxembourg aren't represented from the EU. It's a great place to work, a real melting pot.

We had a mail through today from a head honcho. Apparently 8% of our UK workforce are EU nationals, nearly 1200 people. The company I work with are in constant talks with the government about Brexit - over 50 meetings so far!

Maggy 28-06-2017 16:51
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35905384)
I'm sure those that are well qualified, have a good income, private health care, live in a nice house, in a nice area, with a WA school and their only contact with EU immigrants is the housekeeper, cleaner and the nanny for young Jocasta. It matters little to them being in or out of the EU so they plump for the status quo (even though it's not).

Whereas.....
Not going to be true for teachers and educators in general who teach the students of EU or Commonwealth parents.

ianch99 28-06-2017 18:37
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905416)
so not one of these

Libtard
Libtard n. Portmanteu of "liberal" and "retard". Someone who, intoxicated by being knowlegable and right about politics and economics, forgets that they need to get actual real ordinary people to support them if their agenda is to be advanced. Often but not always rich, well meaning and with good insight to society's problems, but naive about the mechanics of politics and utterly ignorant about how power actually works.
More education needed, no idea what "Portmanteu" is ..

Really interested in what "actual real ordinary people" are :)

Osem 28-06-2017 18:46
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... the European Commission has today issued a finance paper which faces up to the reality of the EU without its second biggest financier. The report on “Future Financing of the EU” is from a high-level group set up jointly by the European Parliament, the Council of the EU and the European Commission, chaired by Mario Monti. The literal money quote is:

“The gap in EU finances arising from the United Kingdom’s withdrawal and from the financing needs of new priorities need to be clearly acknowledged.”
https://order-order.com/2017/06/28/e...al-black-hole/

Reality dawning methinks.

ianch99 28-06-2017 18:51
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35905394)
I'll go for this one:

Being super qualified doesn't always mean you make the right choice and visa versa! :D
Why are there 26 Brothers? Are they in the Hood or something?

1andrew1 28-06-2017 20:00
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35905455)
More education needed, no idea what "Portmanteu" is ..

Really interested in what "actual real ordinary people" are :)
More education needed by the author. No such word as "knowlegable". We all make spelling mistakes but not in a dictionary!

papa smurf 28-06-2017 20:33
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[QUOTE=ianch99;35905455]More education needed, no idea what "Portmanteu" is ..

a word blending the sounds and combining the meanings of two others

Mr K 28-06-2017 20:45
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35905431)
Wow! Do we have a new Brexit convert? Better late than never Mr K :)
You can be a remainer and patriotic you know ;)

Just don't get the double standards of some, who hate the EU, but are very fond of us becoming another state of the US; throwing about Americanisms like 'Libtard' etc. We're closer to Europe, in fact we're still in Europe, whatever daft decision we've made. France supplies us with fine wines and cheeses, the US has given us McDonalds....

1andrew1 28-06-2017 21:07
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905480)
You can be a remainer and patriotic you know ;)

Just don't get the double standards of some, who hate the EU, but are very fond of us becoming another state of the US; throwing about Americanisms like 'Libtard' etc. We're closer to Europe, in fact we're still in Europe, whatever daft decision we've made. France supplies us with fine wines and cheeses, the US has given us McDonalds....
Agreed. The number of Americanisms I've seen on this forum by Brexiters who proclaim themselves to be more patriotic due to their decision on 23/6/16 is somewhat contradictory.

papa smurf 28-06-2017 21:27
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnUGAe0yqz4

Damien 28-06-2017 21:57
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35905485)
Agreed. The number of Americanisms I've seen on this forum by Brexiters who proclaim themselves to be more patriotic due to their decision on 23/6/16 is somewhat contradictory.
Don't really care about Americanisms, language changes. But you do get a lot of American political terminology entering British politics on both the left and the right hence the abuse of the word 'liberal'. You get conservatives here, not the normal well read ones such as Carswell, but the commentators who use liberal in the American sense of a left-winger. But you also get the left who see liberal as neoliberal which they in turn mean right-wing believers in uncontrolled free markets taking over as much as the state as possible.

passingbat 28-06-2017 23:24
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35905485)
Agreed. The number of Americanisms I've seen on this forum by Brexiters who proclaim themselves to be more patriotic due to their decision on 23/6/16 is somewhat contradictory.

Thank you so much Andrew.

You see I thought the threat to the UK, of losing complete control over borders, laws and taxes, was due to a non directly elected bunch of bureaucrats who wanted to build a federal states of Europe, taking advantage of mass immigration and cheap labour rates, among a bunch of other things.

Now you correct me by saying it's actually because people have been using Americanisms, such as 'Get-Go', 'Gotten', and 'Kinda'!. Thank you. I will try my best to stop using these Americanisms immediately. There really is too much at stake here! ;):D

denphone 29-06-2017 05:42
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905480)
You can be a remainer and patriotic you know ;)

Just don't get the double standards of some, who hate the EU, but are very fond of us becoming another state of the US; throwing about Americanisms like 'Libtard' etc. We're closer to Europe, in fact we're still in Europe, whatever daft decision we've made. France supplies us with fine wines and cheeses, the US has given us McDonalds....
Well l have been called many things :) in my life some pretty bad but l am just as patriotic as anybody in this country as IMO anybody who comes out with that label simply does not know what they are bloody talking about as one can be patriotic and very much still like foreign influence's and cultures.

passingbat 29-06-2017 06:40
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905480)

Just don't get the double standards of some, who hate the EU, but are very fond of us becoming another state of the US
Now you have lost it Mr K :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905480)
France supplies us with fine wines and cheeses, the US has given us McDonalds....
And Switzerland supplies us with the Cuckoo clock ;):D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyuJQ_UO7OE

papa smurf 29-06-2017 07:22
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35905513)
Now you have lost it Mr K :D



And Switzerland supplies us with the Cuckoo clock ;):D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyuJQ_UO7OE
and Mr K supplies us with weapons grade bullonium

Mr K 29-06-2017 07:24
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35905513)
Now you have lost it Mr K
See I've touched a raw nerve there ! This country is become more obsessed and influenced by the US, in culture and language. It may be what others want, but not me.

papa smurf 29-06-2017 07:29
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35905504)
Thank you so much Andrew.

You see I thought the threat to the UK, of losing complete control over borders, laws and taxes, was due to a non directly elected bunch of bureaucrats who wanted to build a federal states of Europe, taking advantage of mass immigration and cheap labour rates, among a bunch of other things.

Now you correct me by saying it's actually because people have been using Americanisms, such as 'Get-Go', 'Gotten', and 'Kinda'!. Thank you. I will try my best to stop using these Americanisms immediately. There really is too much at stake here! ;):D
shaw is a pickle partner and has been from the get go ,kinda make ya wonder how we've gotten behind this here situation and all ,well must skeedadle back to the ranch mom's servin burgers n grit's yehaw git along little dawggy USA USA USA HOOOORAH

Mr K 29-06-2017 07:32
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35905511)
Well l have been called many things :) in my life some pretty bad but l am just as patriotic as anybody in this country as IMO anybody who comes out with that label simply does not know what they are bloody talking about as one can be patriotic and very much still like foreign influence's and cultures.
Well that's kind of (kinda;)) what I was saying Den. There is a xenophobia about Europe, but we love German cars, going on Spanish holidays etc. Fine if we want to be 'little England' but let's not become a down market version of the country across 'The Pond'.

papa smurf 29-06-2017 07:49
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905480)
You can be a remainer and patriotic you know ;)

Just don't get the double standards of some, who hate the EU, but are very fond of us becoming another state of the US; throwing about Americanisms like 'Libtard' etc. We're closer to Europe, in fact we're still in Europe, whatever daft decision we've made. France supplies us with fine wines and cheeses, the US has given us McDonalds....




20 American Inventions That Changed the World

https://owlcation.com/humanities/10-...nged-The-World

passingbat 29-06-2017 07:54
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905517)
See I've touched a raw nerve there !

Actually you gave me a big smile!


BTW, as you are a Vintage TV channel fan, I hope you appreciated the clip from, The Third Man.

1andrew1 29-06-2017 08:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35905504)
Thank you so much Andrew.

You see I thought the threat to the UK, of losing complete control over borders, laws and taxes, was due to a non directly elected bunch of bureaucrats who wanted to build a federal states of Europe, taking advantage of mass immigration and cheap labour rates, among a bunch of other things.

Now you correct me by saying it's actually because people have been using Americanisms, such as 'Get-Go', 'Gotten', and 'Kinda'!. Thank you. I will try my best to stop using these Americanisms immediately. There really is too much at stake here! ;):D
The evil USofEU was defeated on 23/6/16 but seems to have been replaced by people trying to colonise us by promoting US political slang like libtard. Gotten is old English as in ill-gotten gains so I'm happy with that, just people watching Fox News and not understanding that terms like Liberal mean different things in different places.

papa smurf 29-06-2017 08:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35905528)
The evil EASY was defeated on 23/6/16 but seems to have been replaced by people trying to colonise us by promoting US political slang like libtard. Gotten is old English as in ill-gotten gains so I'm happy with that, just people watching Fox News and not understanding that terms like Liberal mean different things in different places.


but tard is universal

denphone 29-06-2017 08:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905523)
20 American Inventions That Changed the World

https://owlcation.com/humanities/10-...nged-The-World
And l trump you with 30 inventions that changed the world and all by different countries as well.;)

papa smurf 29-06-2017 08:21
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35905530)
And l trump you with 30 inventions that changed the world and all by different countries as well.;)
it's not a competition it's just a small sample of what the USA has given the world and if your trumping me provide a link as proof of your statement

i'll start you off
1 GERMANY attempted world domination more than once [ weapons of terror]
2 FRANCE surrendering to the above and supplying them cheese and wine
3 AMERICA coming to our aid to defeat number 1 with it's technology and armed forces

denphone 29-06-2017 08:23
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905531)
it's not a competition it's just a small sample of what the USA has given the world and if your trumping me provide a link as proof of your statement
Whoops l am getting forgetful in my old age.:)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techn...ver/ss-AAm0QZp

passingbat 29-06-2017 08:33
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35905528)
Gotten is old English .

As I've pointed out before (it's actually middle English, as described by most Google dictionary references) but for some strange reason some people in the UK don't like it as it's mainly used in the US.


I first came across it in the mid nineties, in, of all places, Adobe software manuals, and I've loved the word ever since then.

Mick 29-06-2017 08:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905520)
Well that's kind of (kinda;)) what I was saying Den. There is a xenophobia about Europe, but we love German cars, going on Spanish holidays etc. Fine if we want to be 'little England' but let's not become a down market version of the country across 'The Pond'.
This is where you are wrong, as always.

There is no xenophobia with 'Europe', as in, the continent. There is issues with the 'EU', the corrupt institution in Europe.

Your disdain with America, is ignorance, the same ignorance you apply to democracy. The US is not down market. Sure, there are deprived areas, but UK has these too. Having been to America several times, there is nothing down market about it at all.

Oh, and I don't like German cars and I have never been to Spain, or elsewhere in Europe.

TheDaddy 29-06-2017 09:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35905535)
This is where you are wrong, as always.

There is no xenophobia with 'Europe', as in, the continent. There is issues with the 'EU', the corrupt institution in Europe.

Your disdain with America, is ignorance, the same ignorance you apply to democracy. The US is not down market. Sure, there are deprived areas, but UK has these too. Having been to America several times, there is nothing down market about it at all.

Oh, and I don't like German cars and I have never been to Spain, or elsewhere in Europe.
I couldn't find any disdain or ignorance towards America in that post :shrug:

Mick 29-06-2017 10:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35905542)
I couldn't find any disdain or ignorance towards America in that post :shrug:
I never asked you to look. :dozey:

Calling it down market when it isn't is disdain. But no surprise... You wouldn't, being one of his 'few', Anti-Brexit buddies. :rolleyes:

However, I was not seeking for your agreement or approval. It's my view and I stand by it. ;)

Damien 29-06-2017 10:19
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Technically he was saying a 'down market version of [America]' not calling America itself down market but I don't think he was being complimentary of America either. America is a cool country though but so are a lot of the European ones.

pip08456 29-06-2017 10:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905523)
20 American Inventions That Changed the World

https://owlcation.com/humanities/10-...nged-The-World
So the yanks invented the computer and internet???? Dream on!

Charles Babbage, Alan Turing and Tim Berners-Lee.

Mick 29-06-2017 10:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35905550)
Technically he was saying a 'down market version of [America]' not calling America itself down market but I don't think he was being complimentary of America either. America is a cool country though but so are a lot of the European ones.
No disagreement, there are some places in Europe I would like to visit too.

Mr K, has always shown disrespect to the US, it's just took me a minute to find an earlier post of his saying, 'America has always been crap.' Yep, this is showing disdain.

denphone 29-06-2017 11:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905531)
it's not a competition it's just a small sample of what the USA has given the world and if your trumping me provide a link as proof of your statement
l have never doubted what America has given to the world and also what a lovely country it is too but many other countries have given a lot to the world as well and are very nice too so please take your blinkers off for once as you might find it rather enlightening.;)

papa smurf 29-06-2017 11:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35905559)
l have never doubted what America has given to the world and also what a lovely country it is too but many other countries have given a lot to the world as well and are very nice too so please take your blinkers off for once as you might find it rather enlightening.;)
if you tried reading the previous posts between myself and mr k you might find the context of the debate and the context of that post ,but seeing as it went over your head ill explain. mr k inferred that the only thing the USA have given the world was mcdonalds . i posted a different viewpoint .

denphone 29-06-2017 11:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905566)
if you tried reading the previous posts between myself and mr k you might find the context of the debate and the context of that post ,but seeing as it went over your head ill explain. mr k inferred that the only thing the USA have given the world was mcdonalds . i posted a different viewpoint .
l know exactly which Mr K said and l know exactly what he meant and l know exactly what you said and meant as well but its nice of you to remind me.:)

papa smurf 29-06-2017 11:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35905567)
l know exactly which Mr K said and l know exactly what he meant.:)
glad i could help

Mr K 29-06-2017 11:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905566)
mr k inferred that the only thing the USA have given the world was mcdonalds .
Not really Smurf; I was comparing France giving us lovely wines and cheeses and the US giving us Fast Food. It was supposed to be humour more than anything else. Other things they've given nuclear weapons, Donald Trump, global warming...

I was just pointing out that some Brexiteers on here love everything US, and hate everything EU. Fair enough, but what about liking everything British if we're going down the Brexit route ?

Nothing particularly against the US people, they have my real pity atm. My sister has dual nationality having lived there for 20 years; however it's not for me, I don't want that culture here, just as others don't want the EU.

papa smurf 29-06-2017 11:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905570)
Not really Smurf; I was comparing France giving us lovely wines and cheeses and the US giving us Fast Food. It was supposed to be humour more than anything else. Other things they've given nuclear weapons, Donald Trump, global warming...

I was just pointing out that some Brexiteers on here love everything US, and hate everything EU. Fair enough, but what about liking everything British if we're going down the Brexit route ?

Nothing particularly against the US people, they have my real pity atm. My sister has dual nationality having lived there for 20 years; however it's not for me, I don't want that culture here, just as others don't want the EU.
thats fair enough glad we could work that out - the main thing i like about the USA is the monster in law lives in Florida and i thank them for that .

passingbat 29-06-2017 12:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905570)

I was just pointing out that some Brexiteers on here love everything US, and hate everything EU. .

Do you have a list of those people?


Don't forget; the EU is a political system, not the separate European countries. My view is that once we are out of the EU, they can organise there multi-country political system however they choose.

Mr K 29-06-2017 12:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35905576)
Do you have a list of those people?
Yes your name vill go on ze list too passingbat.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2017/06/21.jpg

Pierre 29-06-2017 12:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905480)
You can be a remainer and patriotic you know ;)
the US has given us McDonalds....
They also prevented us from Goose Stepping in the cub scouts.

---------- Post added at 12:39 ---------- Previous post was at 12:36 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35905485)
Agreed. The number of Americanisms I've seen on this forum by Brexiters who proclaim themselves to be more patriotic due to their decision on 23/6/16 is somewhat contradictory.
The English language continually evolves, and happily absorbs words and phrases from other languages, as any Raconteur will tell you.

Mick 29-06-2017 13:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905570)

I was just pointing out that some Brexiteers on here love everything US, and hate everything EU.
Here we go again with the wild and inaccurate assumptions.

You're comparing a Country vs. An Institution, the EU is not necessarily one single place or point, it is a body, a partnership and group of 28 countries.

The reasons for hating the EU, are completely justified. As I pointed out a few days ago, only 10 Countries pay more in to it than they get out of it and we are one of them, while 18 other Countries, we piggyback and they get more out of it than they put in. It's an unbalanced, economic disaster waiting to happen.

passingbat 29-06-2017 13:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35905579)
Yes your name vill go on ze list too passingbat.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2017/06/21.jpg

Nice on Mr K; it really did made me smile.


But it does go to show that you really don't get it at all!

Osem 29-06-2017 14:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35905582)
Here we go again with the wild and inaccurate assumptions.

You're comparing a Country vs. An Institution, the EU is not necessarily one single place or point, it is a body, a partnership and group of 28 countries.

The reasons for hating the EU, are completely justified. As I pointed out a few days ago, only 10 Countries pay more in to it than they get out of it and we are one of them, while 18 other Countries, we piggyback and they get more out of it than they put in. It's an unbalanced, economic disaster waiting to happen.
It doesn't matter how many time you explain why we want our of the EU and that it's not to do with hating Europe at all. Some people just refuse to accept it and then use that as their reasoning to bang on ad nauseam about how xenophobic Brexiteers hate Europe. I'm on the record as saying I love Europe and wish the EU could have been different (i.e. a true collaboration of friendly states as opposed to a single state with a single currency and economic policy etc.) but it makes no difference to some folks. The EU's intransigence is the problem not the nations or peoples of Europe and they given us no choice but to leave.

papa smurf 29-06-2017 14:18
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any hoo some great news it's USA week at lidl woo hooo

https://www.lidl.co.uk/en/Offers.htm...nt=USAFoodWeek

RizzyKing 29-06-2017 16:16
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The EU isn't europe and if you don't understand that then your too far gone to try and debate with. I love many european things not wine or cheese but i like german and french cinema, i like italian cuisine, i love the carefree attitude of most of the benelux countries. Wanting the UK out of the EU does not translate to being anti european in anyway whatsoever and to claim one is linked to the other is just another pathetically desperate attempt to frame the debate.

There are things about the USA i love and hate and yes if i had the cash I'd emigrate there tomorrow if for nothing else so i could fly my national flag and not have a vocal bunch of morons tell me it's racist. I would move to america not want the UK to become america the UK has a unique history, identity and outlook that sadly is being eroded and abandoned by more and more so called UK citizens. Biggest appeal to me for america is their belief in their country and the support they give a bit like how the UK used to be before it became something to ashamed of starting at school and i saw it with my own kids telling me how bad the UK was for what it had done in it's past.

Leaving the EU is the last chance to retain our uniqueness and to build a stronger society but that doesn't have to come at the expense of a global outlook and relationship and I've never heard anyone with half a brain that's ever said differently.

TheDaddy 29-06-2017 16:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35905546)
I never asked you to look. :dozey:

Calling it down market when it isn't is disdain. But no surprise... You wouldn't, being one of his 'few', Anti-Brexit buddies. :rolleyes:

However, I was not seeking for your agreement or approval. It's my view and I stand by it. ;)
Does it matter that he never actually called America down market

Mick 29-06-2017 18:28
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Government defeats the second and final amendment being voted on tonight. 322 MPs voted against the amendment on Brexit and remaining in the Single Market and Customs Union, with only 101 voting in favour.

Lib Dem's Tim Farron is a little pissed with Jezza....

http://news.sky.com/story/live-gover...mmons-10931422

Jezza had ordered his MPs to abstain on this vote, but its seems as many as 60 defied the order. Labour Shadow Minister for Transport, Daniel Zeichner has resigned as a shadow transport minister for voting in favour of the amendment.

denphone 29-06-2017 19:37
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He sacked 3 of them.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...le-market-vote

papa smurf 29-06-2017 19:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35905643)
they don't seem very stable too many going their own way

Osem 29-06-2017 19:53
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All going well at Corbyn Towers is it? The way he's going, his extended family will be in his shadow cabinet soon...
I note David Zeichner seems to be unable or unwilling to differentiate between people who're pro European and those who are just anti EU.

denphone 29-06-2017 19:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905646)
they don't seem very stable too many going their own way
Both parties on Europe have considerable fault lines and nowt has changed in that respect.

papa smurf 29-06-2017 20:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35905647)
All going well at Corbyn Towers is it? The way he's going, his extended family will be in his shadow cabinet soon...
I note David Zeichner seems to be unable or unwilling to differentiate between people who're pro European and those who are just anti EU.
a few more votes and it'll just be jezza and flabbot unless she forgets what she's doing . still nothing like a strong opposition ....

1andrew1 29-06-2017 21:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905571)
thats fair enough glad we could work that out - the main thing i like about the USA is the monster in law lives in Florida and i thank them for that .
lol :D

Chris 30-06-2017 08:27
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The Grauniad comments are pure gold this morning. Absolutely packed with Labour voters who seem utterly shocked that Corbyn has turned out to be pro Brexit and pro getting out of the single market. :rofl:

denphone 30-06-2017 08:45
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Well if they took off their rose tinted glasses for once they would realise that he has been both of those for some considerable time.

heero_yuy 30-06-2017 08:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35905683)
The Grauniad comments are pure gold this morning. Absolutely packed with Labour voters who seem utterly shocked that Corbyn has turned out to be pro Brexit and pro getting out of the single market. :rofl:
It's almost as if they didn't know what they were voting for. :dozey:

papa smurf 30-06-2017 09:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35905683)
The Grauniad comments are pure gold this morning. Absolutely packed with Labour voters who seem utterly shocked that Corbyn has turned out to be pro Brexit and pro getting out of the single market. :rofl:
he's more Soviet union than European union ;)

daveeb 30-06-2017 10:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35905688)
It's almost as if they didn't know what they were voting for. :dozey:
Well you could say that about the Brexit referendum as well.

I suspect a lot of people voted Labour as the lesser of two evils (from an EU point of view) hoping for a softer version of Brexit if there was a reduced Tory majority. He was noticeably quiet on this topic pre-election, wisely leaving the Tories to argue amongst themselves instead. I do think the Corbyn honeymoon could be coming to an end tho' as his pro hard Brexit leanings become clearer.

It's not at all clear how things are going to pan out. Anyone claiming to know I would say is just speculating or has a top quality crystal ball.

papa smurf 30-06-2017 10:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 35905704)
Well you could say that about the Brexit referendum as well.

I suspect a lot of people voted Labour as the lesser of two evils (from an EU point of view) hoping for a softer version of Brexit if there was a reduced Tory majority. He was noticeably quiet on this topic pre-election, wisely leaving the Tories to argue amongst themselves instead. I do think the Corbyn honeymoon could be coming to an end tho' as his pro hard Brexit leanings become clearer.

It's not at all clear how things are going to pan out. Anyone claiming to know I would say is just speculating or has a top quality crystal ball.
did hero's comment even ruffle your hair as it went over your head ;)

daveeb 30-06-2017 13:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905705)
did hero's comment even ruffle your hair as it went over your head ;)
Care to elaborate then oh wise one, I don't know him and took comment at face value. ;)

Osem 01-07-2017 23:30
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Labour the lesser of two evils? :rofl:

Labour under, Comrade Corbyn and Marxist McDonnell, will be very nasty indeed. Just ask the MP's they're undermining and look at their track record of anti-semitism, intimidation etc.

1andrew1 02-07-2017 00:02
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With household incomes falling £200 since the vote, it's no surprise the nation's waking up.
Quote:
The clear majority of Britons – 54 per cent - would vote to Remain in the European Union if another referendum was held while just 46 percent would back Leave, the Survation survey showed.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3577806.html

pip08456 02-07-2017 00:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35905891)
With household incomes falling £200 since the vote, it's no surprise the nation's waking up.
Have they really Andrew? You linked to the survey would you mind linking to the £200 loss in income as well?

Is it a loss per month, per year, per lifetime???

Paul 02-07-2017 00:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35905891)
With household incomes falling £200 since the vote, it's no surprise the nation's waking up.
Waking up to what ?

On what do you base this figure, and how is it linked to a brexit vote ?


Also, didnt the original surveys, before the vote, also say the vote would go as 'remain' :dozey:

RizzyKing 02-07-2017 02:08
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He's probably on about the devaluation of the pound which some pro remain group has interpreted as a household loss since the referendum. Andrew what you need to really start understanding is that despite the constant remain groups saying "we didn't know what we voted for" a large majority of leave voters did understand. We simply felt it was a price worth paying to be out of the EU, personally i expect to be worse off for a good decade maybe more but in time greater prosperity will be enjoyed by my kids.

Osem 02-07-2017 11:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35905895)
Waking up to what ?

On what do you base this figure, and how is it linked to a brexit vote ?


Also, didnt the original surveys, before the vote, also say the vote would go as 'remain' :dozey:
Everything negative's down to the Brexit vote, you should know that. That'll be until the EU implodes but that'll probably be blamed on Brexit too... :spin:

Meanwhile:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40471466

Quote:
The government is to end an arrangement that allows other countries to fish in UK waters, it has been announced.
The convention allows Irish, Dutch, French, German and Belgian vessels to fish within six and 12 nautical miles of UK coastline.
Environment Secretary Michael Gove said the move would help take back control of fishing access to UK waters.
But Greenpeace said ending the arrangement would not alone improve the future of the UK's fishing industry.
The Scottish government backed the exit, saying it had pressed for the move "for some time".
The London Fisheries Convention sits alongside the EU Common Fisheries Policy, which allows all European countries access between 12 and 200 nautical miles of the UK and sets quotas for how much fish nations can catch.

papa smurf 02-07-2017 11:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35905930)
Everything negative's down to the Brexit vote, you should know that. That'll be until the EU implodes but that'll probably be blamed on Brexit too... :spin:

Meanwhile:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40471466
i can see the car carriers in Grimsby docks from my front door ,what fishing industry ? there are no trawlers left .

1andrew1 02-07-2017 11:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35905896)
He's probably on about the devaluation of the pound which some pro remain group has interpreted as a household loss since the referendum. Andrew what you need to really start understanding is that despite the constant remain groups saying "we didn't know what we voted for" a large majority of leave voters did understand. We simply felt it was a price worth paying to be out of the EU, personally i expect to be worse off for a good decade maybe more but in time greater prosperity will be enjoyed by my kids.
If your kids live in Northern Ireland then they will be better off thanks to May's Magic Money Tree. Otherwise they won't be. We paid 0.6% of GDP for EU membership and got increased GDP of 10% back in return.

---------- Post added at 11:55 ---------- Previous post was at 11:51 ----------

Meanwhile, the car industry is suffering a huge lack of investment post-Brexit vote. Let's hope it recovers as it's a significant employer in the UK.

Quote:
Investment in UK car industry plummets amid Brexit uncertainty
Investment in the UK car industry has fallen to just £322m in the first half of 2017, in a sign that companies are delaying or cancelling spending ahead of the UK leaving the EU.
Investment in the UK car industry last year was £1.66bn, which was down from the £2.5bn in investment recorded in 2015, as carmakers and their suppliers delayed non-essential investment following the EU referendum last June.
But investment looks to have fallen even further in the first six months of 2017, according to figures compiled by the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders industry body.
https://www.ft.com/content/0c3427b2-...8-8055f264aa8b

---------- Post added at 11:56 ---------- Previous post was at 11:55 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905933)
i can see the car carriers in Grimsby docks from my front door ,what fishing industry ? there are no trawlers left .
A very sad situation caused by over-fishing.

Ramrod 02-07-2017 14:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35905688)
It's almost as if they didn't know what they were voting for. :dozey:
Quote:
Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 35905704)
Well you could say that about the Brexit referendum as well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905705)
did hero's comment even ruffle your hair as it went over your head ;)
See, this is why I come here :rofl:

---------- Post added at 14:00 ---------- Previous post was at 13:58 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35905896)
Andrew what you need to really start understanding is that despite the constant remain groups saying "we didn't know what we voted for" a large majority of leave voters did understand. We simply felt it was a price worth paying to be out of the EU, personally i expect to be worse off for a good decade maybe more but in time greater prosperity will be enjoyed by my kids.
My thoughts exactly :clap::tu:


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