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And/or just use one of the many other options out there.

Anyone who doesn't want Meta to own their stuff (by own I mean allowing Meta to use it for whatever they want) probably doesn't use WhatsApp anyway.

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How are the Goverment going to get access to a backdoor?

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Maybe you could, but would you really risk getting caught breaking the law when alternatives exist?

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No idea. I assume that they'll employ experts in this field to achieve their goal.

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I'm sure they will have, but the less organised terrorists and paedophiles regularly use Wharrsapp.

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And you know this how?

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Please show me where they will make it a LAW that will prevent me as a private citizen from using WhatsApp or any other E2E encrypted App in the UK. Real evidence not what you think will happen.

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Are we sure that Exynos or Snapdragon does not call mama back?

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Reasonably, because they are tested by GCHQ’s National Cyber Security Centre.

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I moved to Iphone 2 years ago due to the better security, its not perfect but better than normal for a phone.

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Media reports and filmed interactions when they are caught where evidence is discussed.

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I have never claimed that they definitely will do. My point is that if they do so, I suspect that you and others wouldn't risk the consequences and go to the trouble of using a proscribed service, particularly when legal alternatives would still exist.

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You never met anyone with an ITV Digital gold card, a dodgy cable box or a Fire Stick?

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Your wrong i would carry on using it.

If this was ever to become a reality i would put it in the stupid law box and i have no problem ignoring stupid laws i do it all the time.

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Part of my job at one point was to catch them :). Not anymore however.

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If I have they didn't tell me, so the answer is no:shocked:

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I too had a dodgy box and now have a firestick (behind a VPN).

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What an Enigma they were ;)

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It's strange that the driving factor behind the massive increase in VPN usage is Firesticks and the Governments stupid plans to snoop on the daily lives of the population.

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Indeed :).

To be clear i never had one for obvious reasons nor do i have a dodgy firestick :)

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Its laughable how they pass laws to tighten up privacy, and then talk about reading all your private messages. Idiots.

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Ban Whatsapp? what a load of shite!

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I suppose the government could pass lots laws banning people from being or doing all sorts of things, unfortunately while many of us may think they would be a good idea they sadly would be pretty unenforceable :rolleyes:.

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Totally agree

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Neither did I. I was at a late friend's house when a Virgin engineer came to fit his dodgy NTL box (though it was Virgin). I asked it it had a return path that could catch him out, to which he replied that the box was invisible to the network.

Was this true? If so, how did they catch people out in those days?

I was also told that Virgin weren't too bothered as people using these boxes had to subscribe to at least the minimum subscription, so it drove up sales and that them accessing Sky Sports and Sky Movies for free didn't cost the company any money as legitimate subscriptions to these services didn't make any money for them after they'd paid Sky (I believe that this is no longer the case, which is why Virgin now actively market these products).

This is said to be the reason why it was allowed to go on for so long and why they didn't pay for a new encryption system (until Sky insisted upon it).

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I believe you could see the connection cab level but to trace beyond that I do not think was easy.

As far as I am aware if your had BB you could have a card share box without any TV. A lot of boxes had both sat and cable tuners

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Richard, repeating libellous statements can get you into serious legal trouble - you are repeating claims that VM/NTL encouraged illegal activities as it benefited them financially.

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He had broadband, phone and a legitimate V box in the living room at the time. The dodgy box was to be used in his bedroom.

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These allegations were made by the Virgin engineer when I chatted to him whilst he was installing the dodgy extra box.

I did a search about what he'd said when I got home and the general consensus on the internet was that this was believed to be the case. It also said that it was considered good etiquete to subscribe to the basic subscription when accessing unauthorised pay TV .

I wouldn't go as far as to say that this was encouraged and, to be clear, the engineer hadn't been sent by Virgin to do it! He came in his own time.

I couldn't find anything about the return path, which is why I asked sirius about this.

Can anyone who had a dodgy box confirm if they could access VOD on them? I think that my late friend was told that he could access any VOD/PPV event, but it's a long time ago now and I obviously can't ask him. If people could access these services, it must have had a return path- so I can't understand how these boxes were invisible to the network and thus detectable as dodgy boxes on the network.

It's all acedemic now as it's so long ago, but i'm just curious.

I do remember that Virgin put up a slate that appeared on dodgy boxes that said something along the lines of 'You are watching on unauthorised equipment. To subscribe call xxx, no questions asked'!

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I've had a VPN far longer than a firestick.

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Richard please be clear i never have and never will talk about ways to circumnavigate set-top box encryption on here or anywhere else. As for your other accusations that Virgin allowed this to happen you are completely wrong and if someone was found to be doing it they would be instantly dismissed.

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I didn't think it would matter as it relates to an old system from long ago, but fair enough.

I did hear from the engineers ex girlfriend later on that Virgin (or whoever they contracted it out to) had found out he was selling these dodgy boxes and dismissed him. This was years ago though.

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RemGuess it was just banter but I clearly remember being told that there was a work around .in the days of ntl, no idea if in fact it was true.

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remember seeing a market in the isle of Wight with a stall offering to chip sky boxes , was there every time I went so at least a couple of months ,guess it worked,

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They could chip Sky analogue boxes en masse, but i've read that hacking a Sky box only works for that particular box. As each box would have to be individually done, it's not feasible. I assume in the world of digital that it's the same fir Virgin.

I was offered 'free' Virgin recently, presumably it's now done via card sharing, but I'm not botherred for sports and I can get Sky Movies for £1 a month legitimately with Now TV, but these days they aren't even worth that!

It's not exactly free either as you have to pay a one off cost and the box may work for a year or maybe a day with no come back, so there's the financial implications as well as the moral and legal implications to consider.

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In the days of NTL it was easy later further encription was implemented but was soon hacked. The last encription when I had a dodgy box was Nagra 2. but in 2009 VM changed to Nagra 3. I gave up on it then.

I've just found out that Nagra 3 was hacked within 3 yrs.

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In the days of NTL it was easy later further encription was implemented but was soon hacked. The last encription when I had a dodgy box was Nagra 2. but in 2009 VM changed to Nagra 3. I gave up on it then.

I've just found out that Nagra 3 was hacked within 3 yrs.Here's a reminder. https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33658868

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Just watching Keir Starmer doing an interview about protecting women from harm on social media on ITV yesterday morning.

He says that it cannot be right that individuals are expected to do all the work to deal with trolls, people that abuse them etc and that he wants platform operators to take more responsibility.

I don't know if this would be via the Online Safety Bill or some other measure.

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How will he protect women from harm if he can’t even define one?

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:D

Below the belt mate! :D

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Well there is one thing people are forgetting.

The Dark Web.

Its not illegal to use, but obviously there is illegal stuff on there, and if you are in those groups or circles, I would guess that there are whatsApp type apps that make WhatsApp encyption look weak.

So banning WhatsApp is pointless.

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The Dark Web is highly scrutinised and Tor Nodes get high jacked and even set up by security agencies. I am sure said security services have eyes and ears in most places but on the same note I am guessing most of what they see is not worth the time and resources to follow it up

Joe Bloggs buying a few gram of coke is hardly crime of the century and a lot of the sites are hosted well out of their jurisdiction anyway. Not that I know any of this for sure or ever go there just my logic

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Well you should check!

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You mean like avoid using it. :rolleyes:

How does "Social Media" harm you ? its not a physical entity.
Also, why only "Women" ? What about Men ? Inbetweens ? Children ?

Hes just another of these useless idiots that mutters things he thinks [some] people want to hear.

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In 2018 it was made illegal to cold call people to try to sell them pension products, with a £500,000 fine for those that flouted the law. This was due to a lot of people being scammed.

This summer the Online Safety Billl will enlarge rules about cold calling. It will become illegal in any situation, even for legitimate companies, to cold call anyone if it involves any situation being given to the caller about your financial situation.or details eg credit card number for a 'postage surcharge' Anyonevthat doesc so will become subject to the same fines as the 2018 law

More importantly, anyone who receives such a call will instantly know that such calls received areceithercscammers or undertaking illegal activity.

This to be backedcup with ac30 million pound investment in a bew 'National Fraud Squad'.

Action Fraud are to have their 120 call handlers increased to 500 to help deal with complaints.

Meanwhile, Ofcom are to take action over spoof calls, 70% of which come from abroad.(usually Russia or Africa).

They make the number look like it's ones bank calling, fir example, by removing the international dialling code and faking the number. Technology will be made available to stop such attempts at source.even before your phone even rings.

BT have been trialling this on a smaller scale and managed to stop 65% of calls getting through.

This will be rolled out to all telephony operators from 15 May 2023.

Anyone who wishes to use the various unlnown number blocking services available from phone complanies can do so for free, apart from Virgin Media customers who have to pay a charge of £3 per month.

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[/COLOR]Women were the subject of the interview.

Those legitimately using social media should not have to do without the benefits of doing so because of trolls etc, it's the perpetrators of such behaviour that Nedd to be dealt with.

Social media & the internet can do a lot of harm to people in allsorts of situations, hence the need for the Onlime Harms Act.

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I always avoided cold callers by having an answer phone until my house phone became defunct.Now I just don't answer any unknown numbers on my mobile. So I have no issues with cold callers at all.

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The thing is that they are able to spoof numbers to make it appear that they are from a number that you know eg your bank.

There's the 'mum' scam where they pretend to be the child of a parent and send a text saying that they are in trouble & need money urgently. They may say that your daughter has lost/had stolen her phone. Despite being told this, always ring her on the number(s) you have for her to check it's legitimate first.

Hopefully the changes later this month will stop most (or even all) of these calls.

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We live in a no cold calling zone, hasn't stop it . Even with signs all over the streets. The speed limit is 20mph and that is ignored, guessing what ever the law says it won't stop it. However it might get a few votes :shocked:

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Vietnam is to make site owners verify a person's identity before they can post on user generated sites.

This is to help prevent scams and will also help to prevent trolling, harrassment etc.

Sounds like a good idea to me. If people are prepared to do/say something on the interbet, they should be prepared to explain why they did it and face the consequences and I will be mentioning this when I am next in contact with Ofcom. They will no longer be able to hide behind some silly made up name, instead they will be personally identifiable and connected to any inappropriate behaviour.

When their reputation, education/employment opportunities are at stake, i'm sure that their behaviour will improve dramatically.

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Sounds like fascism.

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When you start a proposal by using as an example a country whose Human Rights record is appalling, you may not be making the argument you think you are…

https://www.hrw.org/asia/vietnam

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Be careful what you wish for, because you'd be required to follow the same signing up requirements so stuff you say could back to haunt you too. And let's face it, you've got form for the odd bit of unpopular (outspoken?) posting too. Just saying.

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Or more probably to ensure dissenters can be identified and punished and free speech deterred.

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Vietnam , really

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LOL, seriously, you actually believe that bull ?

Its so they can identify anyone who posts things they dont like.

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another thing easily circumnavigated by a vpn

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Lets face it there are lots of ways to get around any restrictions that are put in place.

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How would a VPN help if site owners are required to first verify the identity of a petson before they are allowed to post user generated content?

I accept the comments made about Vietnam, but the UK isn't like that.

Another measure that I have been asked to suggest at the next meeting is fir new recipients to have push payments delayed by 24chours. This would give the person time to think about or seek advice about what they have done and cancel the transfer of funds/contact their bank.

Sadly, the UK is now the most scammed place in the world and the most contacted place by organised scam call centres in Pakistan & Russia.

There is BBC evidence that the former are paying the police off and I'm sure that Putin will be happy to see our most vulnerable ripped off. Maybe funds from UK people are actually buying weapons yo fund this terrible war!!

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Being able to identify and trace thise making inappropriate comments etc isn't all about punishment.

This will also help to identify and obtain treatment for those doing it due to neuro diversity, mental health issues etc. In such cases it wouldn't be appropriate to publicly identify/humiliate them etc, but to ensure that support mechanisms are in place.

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Because you are not in the country so the laws do not apply

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Where are all the people qualified to diagnose all these people going to come from?

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That's a good point, the resources allocated to mental health in this country is shameful.

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This programme outlines the history of and how the Online Safety Bill will regulate user generated content sites, search engines & pornography.

The aim will be to protect people, particularly the most vulnerable in society, from harmful & upsetting content, whilst allowing democratic debate to continue unhindered:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001lr9s

It's taken six years to ensure that the competing interests of the various lobby groups were all fairly taken into consideration. I myself have provided numerous examples as have others with opposing views. Together I believe that the the Bill will lead to a better internet experience for all whilst, at the same time, protecting free speech

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Just to add to the above, the summing upat the end of this programme mirrors some of the comments made in this thread in that it's a shame that the onus will be put onto site operators instead of educating users as to what is('nt) appropriate to post.

Whilst I agree, it's a sad fact that this is unlikely to work. There will certainly be no harm in trying to educate users but, by fault or design, some would continue posting inappropriate text, images, videos etc regardless.

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I understand what you're saying.

With regards to the UK I asked Ofcom if sites were to move abroad and/or use a VPN to circumvent tje new legislation, what would happen then as this would make a mockery of the new requirements.

It seems that they wouldn't go down the proscribing route, instead services that allow any offending website to exist would be dealt with instead, such as site hosting providers, advertisers etc.

If it were not possible to kill a weed, depriving it of light & water would be just as effective.

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Deal with them… how?

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Forbidding them to do business with or support rogue sites in any way.

My assumption is that these would be either businesses based in the UK or businesses that wish to be allowed to continue doing business with UK companies.

I'm sure the exact details will come out when the Bill is debated in the House of Commons & the House of Lords.

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Under what enforcement powers, and enforced by whom?

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"inappropriate comments" - as decided by who exactly ?

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The Online Safety Act after it's expected to be passed and Ofcom.

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AIUI, as it stands and subject to parlimentary scrutiny and amendments by both houses, it will be site owners (who may delegate their obligations/duties/powers etc to admin/moderators) after guidance/procedural directions from Ofcom.

If anyone is unhappy about what is/isn't done as a result of this process, they can contact Ofcom whose decision is expected to be final. If their instructions are not complied with, there are a range of measures/sanctions that can be applied such as heavy fines, imprisonment etc.

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It's not just individuals who can be guilty of trolling, harrassment etc, sometimes it's organisations or overseas Governments who seek to do it to journalists: successful Asian women etc:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct5d91

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What would happen if a Troll is harassed for trolling ?

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There’s nothing in the Online Safety Bill about being able to restrict the ability of any company, anywhere in the world, to trade in the UK on the basis of advertising on a website hosted overseas.

Even the extensive amount of detail in proposed codes of practice aren’t enforceable. They are guidance.

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Quite. A few posters on here need to look out…

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Ha ha:dunce:

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This is what politicians have said, probably best to wait until it starts to work it's way through the houses when more details will become clear.

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They would both leave themselves open to action being taken against them by the website(s) they're doing it on. Two wrongs don't make a right..

The best course of action would be to report it, rather than do the same thing back.

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LOL, So ........

I decide if my comments are inappropriate .. brilliant. :D

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As the Online Safety Bill makes its way through the House of Lords, Conservative peer Baroness Morgan of Coates has tabled an amendment

The amendment calls for a code of practice regarding violence against women and girls as this isn't currently specifically mentioned in the Bill.

She acknowledges that there are pockets on the internet where everyone is exposed to unwelcome behaviour and attention, but that women and girls (especially those of colour) are 27 times more likely to experience this.

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It is about time politicians in this country realised they cannot regulate the internet. They don't have that power. No Government has.

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Hopefully there will be lots more requests to include more and more provisions until it gets so unwieldy and complicated that the government puts a match to it to add to the bonfire of EU Regulations.

The proposed legislation is burdensome, will do little to address the perceived problem and is unworkable, while at the same time putting unnecessary burdens on websites. It needs to be trashed and the sooner the better.

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More nonsense, what about violence against boys, men, babies, unicorns, whatever - starting to pick out specific groups/people/whatever is just ridiculous.

Still, I hope this delays it more and more until someone eventually realises what a complete pile of unworkable crap it is.

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There is no bonfire of EU regulation, Old Boy. In fact, red tape for British businesses trading with the EU is only going to continue to increase.

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Watch this space…

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Just "believe"…

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It may be happening at a slower pace than originally envisaged, but the most damaging regulations will be withdrawn by the end of the year and the rest will follow.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-of-brexit-mps

A government spokesperson said: “We remain committed to ensuring the retained EU law (REUL) bill receives royal assent and that the supremacy of EU law ends with unnecessary and burdensome EU laws removed by the end of this year.

“Once passed, the bill will enable the country to further seize the opportunities of Brexit by ensuring regulations fit the needs of the UK, helping to grow our economy and drive innovation.”

Among the 800 laws on the “to save list” are the working time directive, which protects working hours and environmental legislation.

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Thought you would have realised by now Old Boy that the best way to look at this government's policies is to think of them as u-turns that are yet to happen. So yes, watch this space.

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It's not the most damning regulations that are being withdrawn, it's mainly the irrelevant ones eg ones relating to our access to the pan-European criminals database.

You've cited the working hours restrictions and GDPR as being the most damaging to this country. They're not being withdrawn.

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The thread on watching paint dry continues. :rolleyes:

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You keep saying how much it bores you, yet keep on reading & posting in it. Very bizarre.

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Bullying is never something we should turn a blind eye to.

But at the same time certain people need to learn to not be so easily offended. Have I been disadvantaged in life due to my ADHD and Aspergers? Yeah probably. But what did I do? I got on with life, found alternative ways to do it and more importantly worked my arse off in the gym and improved the way I look and feel.

Some people enjoy victim status. Others of us prefer to fight back. Live life on your feet or on your knees. Your call.

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:clap:

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I'm pleased to see that you now appear to have finally accepted that your autism and ADHD etc do affect your ability to function in the same way as non disabled people. It can be a bitter pill to swallow, so well done.

You now need to work on your incorrect assumptions and beliefs about other disabled people, particularly how their disabilities affect them.

Additionally, the belief that your own way of coping with your issues is the best or only way to deal with matters and that any other approach is wrong (along with the perverse view that this is somehow enjoyable) also needs internal consideration and/or discussion with mental health professionals or support workers.

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Wow .... you really do live up to your name. :dozey:

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Saying the words "just pull yourself together" never helped anyone

Just saying

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:LOL:

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All well and good while you are fit and healthy but life can be cruel one day, and I hope it never comes to you, something might happen that takes your coping mechanisms away, I wonder if you would find it so easy then

All of us are just one life event away from a psychotic or mental break

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Yup - it’s like saying about a broken leg "just walk it off…".

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Nor has victimhood.

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As a Christian I'd say that living life on your knees seems like a really good option.

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What helps from others is understanding compassion and empathy

Judging those suffering as weak just makes you a compounding part of the problem

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Same as get a grip or man up really, how does that help anyone having an episode? They'd be better of not saying anything and just listening if that's the best they've got, that is assuming they actually want to help of course

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Totally agree.

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Insults and talking riddles doesn't tend to work with neuro diverse people.

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Exactly.

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:D :D :D Love it.

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You can be empathetic, compassionate and be not viewing those suffering as weak. But also the only person that can make the change is you (with support from others …great, but it’s still you).

The victim mentality that it’s all the worlds fault that you’re in the situation you’re in (or anyone’s fault other than you) absolves you of any agency to sort yourself out.

Sometimes telling someone to sort themselves out, can be the compassionate, supportive and loving thing to do.

I can help someone, but I can’t help someone who won’t help themselves.

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Not in the snap of the moment, no, not helpful. But long term that has to be faced up.

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So it is my fault I suffered a brain disease when I was 6 nice

You Sir have just shown the fact the vast majority have very little understanding of mental health issues

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I don’t know you. As usual people personalise a broader discussion to shut it down.

You sir, have just refused to further the discussion.

I don’t know your personal circumstances, but I assume whatever your issues and difficulties it is you that drives yourself to battle through your impediments. You will no doubt have bad days, as we all do, but I’m assuming you have agency over your life.

Or are you totally at the behest of others and unable function in anything in life unless someone does it for you?

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I do not have agency over how my brain effects my psychology no matter how hard I try to keep it together.

Some mental health issues are biological so no one has control over them. Prime example is Bipolar which is said to be genetic. So no matter how loving you might be telling a sufferer to pull themselves together will do nothing other than alienate you from them. See lack of understanding

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We are not talking standard anxiety like you worry how big your phone bill is here or when you tell your friends oh I am depressed cuz Arsenal threw the championship away (not you you but in general)

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Your reply shows you understood it perfectly. :dozey:

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And you need to work on minding your own business as well as ending your cock-eyed belief that you're some sort of expert on other peoples' conditions.

In short - stay in your own lane pal.

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I was genuinely congratulating you because you now appear to have accepted that your conditions do affect you after all, which is contrary to what you used to claim, but you've taken it the wrong way.

I must stress that I don't blame you personally for this. One of the traits of those with Aspergers/autism is poor social skills which can cause those affected to get hold of the wrong end of the stick. Communicating via the written word doesn't help either.

You are very likely to genuinely believe what you say rather than deliberately being unpleasant. It's the fault of your learning difficulties not you.

Take care of yourself.

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Richard please put down your spade, if you dig yourself any deeper into your hole you will never be able to climb out.

You are the one who is being unpleasant and also being very condescending. You appear to think you know Russ but your comments about him are so off the mark as to be laughable!

Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 

Sounds extremely painful...:D