Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35600647)

How can you bung BT sports in the Sky sports package?

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35600651)

Always chuckle at the whole "believe in better" tag line. Why would you need to "believe" in better, I thought Sky were better;):erm::confused: (well other than poor customer service, poor BB, inferior STB Box, no wishlists, no 8-second rewind/30 second fast forward, no suggestions, no slow-mo button, a picture quality which is lost easily in wind and rain, a satellite dish on your house and a bunch of channels with very poor viewing figures.) The only things Sky do "better" and which do not bother me are Sky Atlantic, BT sports, both probably coming soon, and some HD variants I do not need. (I would like Nat Geo Wild HD though.)

VM customers don't need to "believe in better" we have better already;):shocked::angel:

Colin and Nstokes, I fear you will both be more upset than most in the next few days. Still you will get to watch a bunch of "lesser watched" sports on SS3/4 in HD:D

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35600656)

are you on drugs? fast forward and rewind..different speeds...what else would you want

lol..nothing like a virgin making a "must want" on something they have that no one else wants lol

wishlist?..never miss on sky.

Yes, and Virgin better? is that why I see all the crying about not having Sky channels

Boohoo, mummy doesn't love me.. :D

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35600583)

not surprised after he was wrong with universal HD ect

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 35600643)

So that's a no then. (aka excuse for spouting pompous unsubstantiated rubbish).

Cheers

Grim

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35600651)

Always chuckle at the whole "believe in better" tag line. Why would you need to "believe" in better, I thought Sky were better;):erm::confused: (well other than poor customer service, poor BB, inferior STB Box, no wishlists, no 8-second rewind/30 second fast forward, no suggestions, no slow-mo button, a picture quality which is lost easily in wind and rain, a satellite dish on your house and a bunch of channels with very poor viewing figures.) The only things Sky do "better" and which do not bother me are Sky Atlantic, BT sports, both probably coming soon, and some HD variants I do not need. (I would like Nat Geo Wild HD though.)

VM customers don't need to "believe in better" we have better already;):shocked::angel:

Colin and Nstokes, I fear you will both be more upset than most in the next few days. Still you will get to watch a bunch of "lesser watched" sports on SS3/4 in HD:D

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35600659)

Now you are just talking out of your rear end :D

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35600659)

Now you are just talking out of your rear end :D

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35600660)

My my you do seems to be getting quite upset today Mr Stokes.:D

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35600661)

Yes, but isn't that what is expected from virgin sheep :D

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35600661)

Yes, but isn't that what is expected from virgin sheep :D

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35600661)

Yes, but isn't that what is expected from virgin sheep :D

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35600662)

Nope not today, you VM sheep will soon be upset

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35600656)

wishlist?..never miss on sky.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35600663)

Baa baa black sheep, have you anything to say?
Yes sir, yes sir, three bags full!
One for the master, one for his friend,
And one for the old boy who lives in the past.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35600667)

How does that work with specific Actors, Directors or specific keywords or previous shows that you missed and now want to watch? ;):D

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35600666)

Anyone seen a moderator around here? Seems to be going way off topic and a wee bit juvenile in this thread the last few days.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35600672)

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35600671)

An announcement tomorrow? Whats this?

Originally Posted by Jasper.dog (Post 35600673)

I've read the forum for a while now but never felt the need to post until today, I have a genuine question for all the sky lovers such as nstokes etc, if you are so happy with your satellite service why do you find the need to spend such a lot of time on a cable forum?!

Genuine question, you are happy with your service so enjoy, but surely it's a terrible waste of precious time to be scouring and contributing to discussions about services you can't receive and obviously have no desire to obtain.

Originally Posted by Jasper.dog (Post 35600673)

I've read the forum for a while now but never felt the need to post until today, I have a genuine question for all the sky lovers such as nstokes etc, if you are so happy with your satellite service why do you find the need to spend such a lot of time on a cable forum?!

Genuine question, you are happy with your service so enjoy, but surely it's a terrible waste of precious time to be scouring and contributing to discussions about services you can't receive and obviously have no desire to obtain.

Originally Posted by bbr81 (Post 35600447)

Is

F1HD available yet or in the next 10 years?

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35600585)

Given up all hope on that and universal owners still ignoring me emails:D

Originally Posted by Jasper.dog (Post 35600673)

I've read the forum for a while now but never felt the need to post until today, I have a genuine question for all the sky lovers such as nstokes etc, if you are so happy with your satellite service why do you find the need to spend such a lot of time on a cable forum?!

Genuine question, you are happy with your service so enjoy, but surely it's a terrible waste of precious time to be scouring and contributing to discussions about services you can't receive and obviously have no desire to obtain.

Originally Posted by martin201002 (Post 35600676)

well said

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35600668)

We are not in the best we are in the future. How many channels in HD do Virgin have and how many do Sky have....em let me think more than Virgin :D:D

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You can do that with Never miss when searching for a film

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What your thoughts on the announcement that is rummured to be tomorow?

Originally Posted by Jasper.dog (Post 35600673)

I've read the forum for a while now but never felt the need to post until today, I have a genuine question for all the sky lovers such as nstokes etc, if you are so happy with your satellite service why do you find the need to spend such a lot of time on a cable forum?!

Genuine question, you are happy with your service so enjoy, but surely it's a terrible waste of precious time to be scouring and contributing to discussions about services you can't receive and obviously have no desire to obtain.

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35600682)

I was a member since being with Virgin

are you saying I should now stop posting?

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Really? well said. How eloquent

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35600684)

BIB. They are just individual films though. You could record Tyrannosaur because you like Peter Mullan, but you may miss out on the delights of Session 9 if you have not heard of it (for example). Both of which will be recorded via wishlist. Also I have had Peter Cushing pop up in many TV shows (most recently Tales of the Unexpected) and countless radio shows. Gotta love the wishlists. If never miss does that, I will happily eat humble pie:)

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35600688)

No, you are allowed to post. I got the impression (happy to be wrong) that he just does not understand why you not watching your precious shows on Sky Atlantic, instead of baiting people on here? Anyway I am out of here for a bit, toodles.

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35600682)

I was a member since being with Virgin

are you saying I should now stop posting?

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Really? well said. How eloquent

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35600675)

Rumoured but a announcement could be on any of the other days in a week so lets see.

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35600680)

I've always wondered it too. They claim its due to wanting to know the information for "their friends". I don't see it myself. I haven't got dressed all weekend and I lie about pointlessly but even I don't see the point in coming onto a cable forum if I had sky. but there we go

I bet if anything is announced it would be Tuesday or Wednesday. Monday always seems to be quiet on virgin media for news. I don't think they like Mondays...

Originally Posted by Jasper.dog (Post 35600693)

Colin25 my question was simply a genuine attempt to understand why such a large group of people seem to wish to spend such an inordinate amount of time discussing a product they purport to find inferior to their own service choice. It makes little or no sense to me, for example as an O2 user I don't feel the need to spend all day on a Vodafone forum. However I'm sure you would agree nowhere in my post have I suggested what you or any other user of this forum should or shouldn't do, I have simply sought to understand the logic.

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35600666)

Anyone seen a moderator around here? Seems to be going way off topic and a wee bit juvenile in this thread the last few days.

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35600687)

I am very happy with my Sky service. Reason i come on this forum is i used to have VM and i have family on VM so i like to keep uo the lastest info. I also like the people on the forum and do not believe it is a waste of my time. One day when it benifits me i will come back over to VM

Originally Posted by Jasper.dog (Post 35600673)

I've read the forum for a while now but never felt the need to post until today, I have a genuine question for all the sky lovers such as nstokes etc, if you are so happy with your satellite service why do you find the need to spend such a lot of time on a cable forum?!

Genuine question, you are happy with your service so enjoy, but surely it's a terrible waste of precious time to be scouring and contributing to discussions about services you can't receive and obviously have no desire to obtain.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35600658)

I have a feeling that Universal HD will be coming sooner rather than later (just a personal opinion based upon conversations etc. It is NOT confirmed).



You should be able to put your view accross without being rude.

Some of what I post is in the public domain and can be verified (sometimes on the internet too) and some of it cannot.

Either way, as previously explained, everything that I post is offered on a take it or leave it basis.

I have no intention of carrying out any research on behalf of others. If anybody feels the need for affirmation, this is a task that they must do themselves.

If you cannot find the information that you are looking for, you are either looking in the wrong place or it is not in the public domain and cannot be verified. It is then for you to decide what to do with the information provided.

Some people accept that in the real world, not all information can be verified for pretty obvious reasons and is on a "nod and a wink" basis. Some people see everything in black and white and refuse to accept anything that cannot be verified (normally the most their research extends to is a computer keyboard).

Only you can decide the position you wish to take to avail yourself of information in all areas of life.

Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35600704)

well we know which 3 or 4 posters are to blame for that. I said so a few days ago and got accused of being a sock account when 2 other newbs agreed with me. could be, i dunno, because i'm not the only person who thinks so? IP check me if you want. I had never heard of this place before 2 weeks ago I come here for a heads up on the BT Sport situation. it's a rubbish forum because too many people cracking inside jokes to eachother intead of being on topic. you think something has happened when you see 50 new posts but it's 3 pages of 3 or 4 mates inflicting their terrible banter on us all.

msn messenger would be a good shout. or a little device which you could type into, select a phone number, and message the person with required unfunny inside joke. you could call it a mobile phone, and the typing could be called text messages. shame nobody has ever thought of this before. it would be an idea worth billions!

Originally Posted by Khenryashley (Post 35600721)

Who rattled this persons cage. Lighten up. There just having a bit of light hearted banter between them. Not doing any harm. :luv::luv:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35600724)

Where's Mr Stokes to continue his countdown to judgement day as he missed his usual daily countdown this morning.:)

Originally Posted by Khenryashley (Post 35600721)

Who rattled this persons cage. Lighten up. There just having a bit of light hearted banter between them. Not doing any harm. :luv::luv:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35600729)

hahaha homoerotic banter! sundays on this place make me smile.

Originally Posted by dj_wayne (Post 35600645)

this just appeared on vm make of it what it is



I've heard an announcement is scheduled for early next week and it will be good news.

The person who told me works in BT but knows a few people higher up and although he doesn't know for certain. He thinks its going to be included in the sports package. That could mean they put the sports package up a few quid to cover the costs etc.

Really really hope it's true :erm:

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35600684)

BIB. They are just individual films though. You could record Tyrannosaur because you like Peter Mullan, but you may miss out on the delights of Session 9 if you have not heard of it (for example). Both of which will be recorded via wishlist. Also I have had Peter Cushing pop up in many TV shows (most recently Tales of the Unexpected) and countless radio shows. Gotta love the wishlists. If never miss does that, I will happily eat humble pie:)

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35600733)

Sadly there is one Sky user who posts on here who can't accept that any part of the VM service is better than Sky. An immature attitude. It is just as misguided and untrue as any VM user posting that all aspects of VM are better than Sky. Fortunately the other regular Sky users offer a fair and balanced view.

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35600731)

I love everyday on here :D

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35600736)

I dont mind saying some parts of VM are better than Sky. For example VM BB is better than Sky BB or Sky Fibre, also VM offer better value for money on some products and the no extra cost of HD channels is great value for money so i also have a balanced view. I have never said that Sky are better than VM overall just some products

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35600739)

Yes it takes all sorts but if l have upset anybody then my apologies go to them.:)

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35600741)

Well, anyone who thinks that Sky's Never Miss is as good as Tivo's Whishlist feature is clearly biased in my view.

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35600671)

An announcement tomorrow? Whats this?

Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35600728)

take it to MSN then if it's so light hearted. at least make a thread for crap unfunny homoerotic banter and let them go to town on eachother.

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35600687)

I am very happy with my Sky service. Reason i come on this forum is i used to have VM and i have family on VM so i like to keep uo the lastest info. I also like the people on the forum and do not believe it is a waste of my time. One day when it benifits me i will come back over to VM

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35600702)

Apologies if this has been mentioned already, but something new to Virgin Media today at least. A new off air screen, check BBC Three before 7pm. It looks like it's designed for HD though as the text is a bit small for standard definition (which is what it's going out in).

Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35600704)

well we know which 3 or 4 posters are to blame for that. I said so a few days ago and got accused of being a sock account when 2 other newbs agreed with me. could be, i dunno, because i'm not the only person who thinks so? IP check me if you want. I had never heard of this place before 2 weeks ago I come here for a heads up on the BT Sport situation. it's a rubbish forum because too many people cracking inside jokes to eachother intead of being on topic. you think something has happened when you see 50 new posts but it's 3 pages of 3 or 4 mates inflicting their terrible banter on us all.

msn messenger would be a good shout. or a little device which you could type into, select a phone number, and message the person with required unfunny inside joke. you could call it a mobile phone, and the typing could be called text messages. shame nobody has ever thought of this before. it would be an idea worth billions!

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35600711)

All that's being asked of you is to provide a source for your information, or, if you cannot, to explain why that is not possible. None of what you have posted about ESPN is backed up by the companies involved as far as I can see - in fact, most of it appears to have been contradicted by official statements and advertising. It may well be that I've got that wrong, if so I'd be grateful if you were to point me in the right direction.

Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35600728)

take it to MSN then if it's so light hearted. at least make a thread for crap unfunny homoerotic banter and let them go to town on eachother.

Originally Posted by Khenryashley (Post 35600745)

nstokes, colin25, denphone and all the rest of you.
I didn't know you were all homoerotic. And this person wants you to go to town on each other. The mind boggles.:banghead:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35600748)

If by homoerotic you mean the practice of referring to other men as "master", I think it's an in joke.

I doubt it means anything to do with the BDSM scene :-D

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35600750)

I didnt know i was ether, i guess i learnt somethinew new about my self :D

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I hope there is no BDSM involed, if so i need to find my play room :D:D

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35600754)

calm down and get practising for that hat eating ;);)

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35600759)

Has anybody heard anything about UK Drama?.

Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35600762)

...they won't want all the new customers to take advantage of the half price offer ending wednesday.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35600765)

oooooh, with all this excitement i'd forgotten all about that! Not heard anything at all about UK Drama, i'm at a charity event tonight where somebody who might know will also be inattendance...I'll post anything I find out tomorrow ;)

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35600748)

In short, I shall try and explain the salient point of my post again. Sometimes information that we receive is information that we should not really be privvy to and it doesn't do to go asking too many questions. Due to the very nature of the information involved, you are unlikely to get any answers, no matter how much you pry and much of this information is unlikely to be found on the internet or anywhere else.

If the subterfuge involved in obtaining and sharing some pieces of information has no credibility in your eyes because it cannot be verified, then so be it :)

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35600318)

VM have a contract to pay ESPN for their channel until the end of the contract, whilst ESPN have a contract to supply ESPN in return for payment.

The takeover by Liberty doesn't change this legally binding agreement, as long as ESPN still exists as an entity. BT can't close down ESPN because of the requirements of various unexpired sports rights.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35600759)

Has anybody heard anything about UK Drama?.

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35600766)

Its like SCS, the sale never ends.

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35600772)

"In short"! Brilliant. :D

So, in short, it's insider information and for reasons of confidentiality you're unable to say anything more. That's all I needed to know, thank you very much.

Now, whilst accepting that you will not be able to divulge any sources, can you explain why the information you are apparently privvy to is the exact opposite to the explanations given by the company themselves?

For example, the following is Virgin's official line on ESPN:

"BT now owns the ESPN and ESPN HD channels, so you’ll only be able to watch this content on Virgin Media until 31 July 2013. We’re currently talking to BT about showing these channels after this date."

This information is taken directly from the Virgin website.

Whereas you've said:



If I've read your posts correctly, you're saying that Virgin and ESPN have an agreement that isn't changed by the fact that the ESPN business is now owned by BT and Virgin has been taken over by Liberty. But Virgin themselves are saying that since BT now own the ESPN channels they won't be able to show them unless they come to a new, separate agreement with BT.

My question to you, quite simply, is this: Is the information on the Virgin website, bearing in mind the importance of it being correct, wrong?

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35600778)

Nope and I pray to god it ain't one of the 4,checking the TV guide for it we are missing nothing :o:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35600788)

Excellent news for my partner and is this one of the channels that is testing..

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35600792)

Could be could be not until we get an announcement from VM regarding BT Sport we won't know for sure

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35600796)

Can some of our posters cope with the tension of it all.;)

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35600786)

UKTV Drama update

Direct from Drama on Facebook on Friday

We are coming to Virgin very soon. Keep your eyes peeled for an update (or keep an eye on your TV Guide!)

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35600783)

The trouble is my partner likes the stuff on that channel so it will be a bit of give and take if that channel does arrives.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35600842)

Yer fair play bud,but come on we lose a channel,then we lose espn and vm say xl price ain't going down surely they don't class drama as a adequate replacement to justify price staying same.

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35600839)

Oh no so that could be one of the testing channels... That leaves 3 channels. BT sports 1 and 2. Sky Atlantic.

One wishes...

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35600844)

The trouble is its all a guessing game at the moment but one does have their own suspicions.

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35600442)

Line 'em up & shoot 'em all! (The Sky spies that is) :sniper: ;)

Originally Posted by si2008 (Post 35600502)

the wife is interested in the knitting channel that's due to start on virgin .wow i,ll have my tv on the paint drying channel and the Mrs on the knitting channel what great life's we live lol

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35600842)

Yer fair play bud,but come on we lose a channel,then we lose espn and vm say xl price ain't going down surely they don't class drama as a adequate replacement to justify price staying same.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35600739)

Anybody with information or guesses on the 4 channels that are testing?.

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Yes it takes all sorts but if l have upset anybody then my apologies go to them.:)

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35600839)

Oh no so that could be one of the testing channels... That leaves 3 channels. BT sports 1 and 2. Sky Atlantic.

One wishes...

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35600782)

PMSL :D



I outlined the correct position as it stands, but that does not mean that BT and/or VM are incorrect as the existing contract can be superceded at any time if both parties mutually agree.

I would not be able to comment on the outcome of any various discussions that may have taken place surrounding this as I either do not know of the outcome or am bound by commercial confidentiality.

I'm sorry I could not be of more help with this :)

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35600868)

If I was to guess the 4 channels on test, they would be Drama, Sky Atlantic, Sky Atlantic HD, and Sky News HD.

Unlikely to be the BT channels.They will possibly use ESPN's old slots.

Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35600894)

Been entertaining on here today. Maybe judgement day tomorrow :) Will Den break the news early, what will he be having for his tea, or will one of the favourites deliver? I'll give you 2/1 MB, 5/2 the new kid on the block that Bomber bloke. Will Colin and Stokesy be all over the thread ripping it big style or will Stokesy be too busy exploring his new found homoerotic side? Will Mark be raging if its Atlantic or raging about everything in general? Will someone agree with Arthur, lol no that won't happen ;) Just another day in the life of the soap opera that is Cable Forum. Sweet dreams :)

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35600900)

Will Henkesghost receive infractions for his new avatar?

Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35600897)

4 tests

BT sports 1&2 BT sports 1&2 HD.

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35600103)

So, to sum up: there are 4 channels testing - the question is what will they be? BT Sport? Sky Atlantic? Some channels that have been coming soon? (MTV Classic, Comedy Central Extra+1, Universal HD, E! HD)

Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35600897)

4 tests

BT sports 1&2 BT sports 1&2 HD.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35600910)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...Ts-Petter.html

"In a direct attack on Sky and Virgin Media, Mr Petter said that BT Sport, the telecom giant’s £1bn bet on small-screen rights, would revolutionise Britain’s television markets, as well as sports viewing."

Whoops, meant to post this in the ESPN/SKY Sports/BT Sports thread.

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35600929)

3 days :)

Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35600894)

Been entertaining on here today. Maybe judgement day tomorrow :) Will Den break the news early, what will he be having for his tea, or will one of the favourites deliver? I'll give you 2/1 MB, 5/2 the new kid on the block that Bomber bloke. Will Colin and Stokesy be all over the thread ripping it big style or will Stokesy be too busy exploring his new found homoerotic side? Will Mark be raging if its Atlantic or raging about everything in general? Will someone agree with Arthur, lol no that won't happen ;) Just another day in the life of the soap opera that is Cable Forum. Sweet dreams :)